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Post by John on Feb 20, 2020 17:27:17 GMT -5
When you look at Judges 11:39-40, it seems obvious that Jephthah did offer his daughter as a burnt offering.
And it came to pass at the end of two months, that she returned unto her father, who did with her according to his vow which he had vowed: and she knew no man. And it was a custom in Israel, That the daughters of Israel went yearly to lament the daughter of Jephthah the Gileadite four days in a year.
I can't see the daughters of Israel going annually to lament the daughter of Jephthah if she simply was dedicated to the Lord and remained unmarried. That doesn't make any sense. The one thing to remember is that God never asked Jephthah, or anyone else, to ever sacrifice people to him. Jephthah simply made a foolish oath and bound himself. What would have happened if he failed to keep the vow? That is a good question, and one we will never know the answer to. It does make me think of a foolish thing King Saul did. Saul had charged the people with an oath that nobody was to eat any food on a particular day, and anyone who did would be accursed. His son Jonathan was not there when the oath was made, but he was fighting the Philistines. He tasted some honey, and because of that, Saul was going to put him to death. Because of the broken oath, God wouldn't answer Saul through the prophets to tell him whether or not he should go into battle against the Philistines. The people intervened on Jonathan's behalf, and he wasn't put to death. I am not aware of any serious consequences of that broken oath. Still, the most important lesson I get from this is to avoid making oaths. Jesus warned us that swearing can lead to sin, and we shouldn't make oaths. That story about Saul, and his foolish oath will be part of our Bible reading tomorrow. I got one day ahead.
And do notice HOW SERIOUS the daughter was THAT HERFATHER KEEP SUCH AN OATH . It almost seems like he was not going to do this , BUT SHE TOLD HIM DO IT . SHE gave herself up as a sacrifice that her Father would maintain the oath HIS LIPS had spoken unto the LORD . THE POINT IS , and this is why IT is said , DO NOT BE HASTY TO JUST MAKE AN OATH OR A VOW unto the LORD . PLUS JESUS even makes it more clear , HE SAYS NOT TOO . JUST let your yes be yes and your no , no . This brings up another point . SEE HOW SERIOUS IT IS , SEE HOW SERIOUS GOD IS TOO . And yet this generation has created a GOD that panders and smiles at our errors , and pats us on the back . not so . GOD IS FULL OF MERCY AND IF ONE DOES ERR , IF THEY CONFESS AND REPENT THEY SURE ARE FORGIVEN . NOW THERE WILL BE CONSEQUENCES . DAVID REPENTED BUT THE CONSEQUENCE OF HIS SIN , COST THAT MAN A GREAT DEAL . YET , DAVID STILL ALWAYS JOYED IN THE LORD , NO MATTER WHAT HE SUFERED . CAUSE HIS HOPE WAS IN THE SALVATION OF GOD . But again this makes another point , WHY IS IT so many omit the repent word . FOR HAD david NOT repented or if men do not confess and repent , REST assured what david had to endure on earth , Will be mega fold worse for those who do not repent . just remember that . and I speak not on earth , but I speak about something that occurs at the end , after death . the second death . MEN need to cease these bunk teaching I see today concering sin and repentance . and need to return to the original pattern . CONCERING SIN the original pattern was , LET IT NOT ONCE BE NAMED and the corrective pattern was , CONFESS and FORAKE IF YE DO SIN . ANd pray one for another that ye may be healed . THAT IS THE PATTERN WE NEED BACK . Because I REMIND US all , SIN WILL , not maybe , BUT WILL HARDEN A HEART . The reason people hate the word repent is because they love their sins more than God. They don't want to give them up, so they are looking for a way to be saved, but remain living in sin.
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Post by John on Feb 20, 2020 17:31:35 GMT -5
From a Father's point of view, being honest, I would have preferred she didn't come back and was safe. I don't know how he did it. It was because of fear of God. Abraham was going to sacrifice his son, but remember that God is not calling us to do that. Even in the case of Abraham, God stopped him. It was just a test of his faith. This man messed up, and he and his daughter trusted in God so much, they went through with it to save the people from falling under a curse.
I think Frienduff is right. Don't let this trouble you. Just accept what happened, and learn from this man's mistake. Don't make vows. Jesus warned us not to, and this is a good example of the evil that can come from them. Keep reading the Bible. I think it is great you are still reading along with us.
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Post by frienduff on Feb 20, 2020 17:39:50 GMT -5
And do notice HOW SERIOUS the daughter was THAT HERFATHER KEEP SUCH AN OATH . It almost seems like he was not going to do this , BUT SHE TOLD HIM DO IT . SHE gave herself up as a sacrifice that her Father would maintain the oath HIS LIPS had spoken unto the LORD . THE POINT IS , and this is why IT is said , DO NOT BE HASTY TO JUST MAKE AN OATH OR A VOW unto the LORD . PLUS JESUS even makes it more clear , HE SAYS NOT TOO . JUST let your yes be yes and your no , no . This brings up another point . SEE HOW SERIOUS IT IS , SEE HOW SERIOUS GOD IS TOO . And yet this generation has created a GOD that panders and smiles at our errors , and pats us on the back . not so . GOD IS FULL OF MERCY AND IF ONE DOES ERR , IF THEY CONFESS AND REPENT THEY SURE ARE FORGIVEN . NOW THERE WILL BE CONSEQUENCES . DAVID REPENTED BUT THE CONSEQUENCE OF HIS SIN , COST THAT MAN A GREAT DEAL . YET , DAVID STILL ALWAYS JOYED IN THE LORD , NO MATTER WHAT HE SUFERED . CAUSE HIS HOPE WAS IN THE SALVATION OF GOD . But again this makes another point , WHY IS IT so many omit the repent word . FOR HAD david NOT repented or if men do not confess and repent , REST assured what david had to endure on earth , Will be mega fold worse for those who do not repent . just remember that . and I speak not on earth , but I speak about something that occurs at the end , after death . the second death . MEN need to cease these bunk teaching I see today concering sin and repentance . and need to return to the original pattern . CONCERING SIN the original pattern was , LET IT NOT ONCE BE NAMED and the corrective pattern was , CONFESS and FORAKE IF YE DO SIN . ANd pray one for another that ye may be healed . THAT IS THE PATTERN WE NEED BACK . Because I REMIND US all , SIN WILL , not maybe , BUT WILL HARDEN A HEART . The reason people hate the word repent is because they love their sins more than God. They don't want to give them up, so they are looking for a way to be saved, but remain living in sin.
talk about the total opposite of true lambs . and ponder this for a second for you know its true . WE hate our SIN , we hate and despise the evil present with us and we look to make no excuse for our error . If a lamb does err , it is disgusted with itself . It has no peace in error , NO PEACE . NONE , ZERO . it has no peace , lest it confess and repent . BUT fake lambs have no peace as long as those who expose what they love is around . SIN . THAT IS THE KEY . Lambs feel totally miserable if they err , wambs feel miserable when they error is exposed . Wambs . a wolf lamb . THINK about that butero . WHEN by grace we are doing what is pleasing in the sight of the LORD , we have such peace of mind and great joy , ITS only when a lamb does err or even if the lust first arises that we feel ,BY THE SPIRIT , alarmed . Lambs hate even the evils of their own flesh . but a wamb picks and chooses what It considers sin . and justifies what it considers Not sin . YET a lamb knows that anything which pleases NOT GOD , IS SIN . A great war is coming , and its been since the days of old . But when I say great war , I MEAN THE CLIMAX OF that war. Which means anything that reminds of holiness and the sayings of JESUS and to be hearers and doers , IS OPEN GAME TO BE not only mocked , not only scoffed , BUT ARRESTED and even KILLED . ITS GONNA GET THAT BAD . And I don't mean just here and there , I MEAN A WORLD WIDE persectuion and not just words , but the likes of which we have never seen . THEY GONNA HAVE the total mindset that they do the inclusive love gods will , WHEN WE and others are even KILLED . Its going to get bad butero . Look , I know that sounds heavy to some , BUT ITS COMING , our betrayal IS COMING and FROM THOSE DEAD and TWICE DEAD WOLVES it will come . What a sell out of the true faith , and soon enough they will turn us over to govts . THE RELIGOIUS TURNED JESUS OVER to the secular , NO MARVEL when it happens to us . IT WILL . NOT IF , NOT MAYBE , ITS COMING .
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Post by frienduff on Feb 26, 2020 14:09:43 GMT -5
And do notice HOW SERIOUS the daughter was THAT HERFATHER KEEP SUCH AN OATH . It almost seems like he was not going to do this , BUT SHE TOLD HIM DO IT . SHE gave herself up as a sacrifice that her Father would maintain the oath HIS LIPS had spoken unto the LORD . THE POINT IS , and this is why IT is said , DO NOT BE HASTY TO JUST MAKE AN OATH OR A VOW unto the LORD . PLUS JESUS even makes it more clear , HE SAYS NOT TOO . JUST let your yes be yes and your no , no . This brings up another point . SEE HOW SERIOUS IT IS , SEE HOW SERIOUS GOD IS TOO . And yet this generation has created a GOD that panders and smiles at our errors , and pats us on the back . not so . GOD IS FULL OF MERCY AND IF ONE DOES ERR , IF THEY CONFESS AND REPENT THEY SURE ARE FORGIVEN . NOW THERE WILL BE CONSEQUENCES . DAVID REPENTED BUT THE CONSEQUENCE OF HIS SIN , COST THAT MAN A GREAT DEAL . YET , DAVID STILL ALWAYS JOYED IN THE LORD , NO MATTER WHAT HE SUFERED . CAUSE HIS HOPE WAS IN THE SALVATION OF GOD . But again this makes another point , WHY IS IT so many omit the repent word . FOR HAD david NOT repented or if men do not confess and repent , REST assured what david had to endure on earth , Will be mega fold worse for those who do not repent . just remember that . and I speak not on earth , but I speak about something that occurs at the end , after death . the second death . MEN need to cease these bunk teaching I see today concering sin and repentance . and need to return to the original pattern . CONCERING SIN the original pattern was , LET IT NOT ONCE BE NAMED and the corrective pattern was , CONFESS and FORAKE IF YE DO SIN . ANd pray one for another that ye may be healed . THAT IS THE PATTERN WE NEED BACK . Because I REMIND US all , SIN WILL , not maybe , BUT WILL HARDEN A HEART . The reason people hate the word repent is because they love their sins more than God. They don't want to give them up, so they are looking for a way to be saved, but remain living in sin.
Folks are working behind the scenes butero . I will explain this in a pm . PS its not folks here .
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Post by 777 on Feb 26, 2020 14:15:50 GMT -5
The reason people hate the word repent is because they love their sins more than God. They don't want to give them up, so they are looking for a way to be saved, but remain living in sin.
Folks are working behind the scenes butero . I will explain this in a pm . PS its not folks here . Is it something you can't warn about here? Is it something we all should beware of?
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Post by frienduff on Feb 26, 2020 14:28:04 GMT -5
Folks are working behind the scenes butero . I will explain this in a pm . PS its not folks here . Is it something you can't warn about here? Is it something we all should beware of? OH , I will send you the same message too . AND YES IT IS SOMETHING WE ALL NEED TO BE MADE AWARE OF . but only for more seasoned ones right now . because the enemy will use this to ill affect the minds of some others . AN all out attack is not coming , MY FRIEND , THEY BEEN DOING IT . THEY BEEN DOING IT IN SECRETE . cause they cant face the truth of what I bring in person . YOU WILL get a message . FOR NOW , BIBLES ONLY . and I mean ONLY . we have GOT to start fresh now . I will send you a message . I already sent it to butero .
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Post by 777 on Feb 26, 2020 14:31:50 GMT -5
Is it something you can't warn about here? Is it something we all should beware of? OH , I will send you the same message too . AND YES IT IS SOMETHING WE ALL NEED TO BE MADE AWARE OF . but only for more seasoned ones right now . because the enemy will use this to ill affect the minds of some others . AN all out attack is not coming , MY FRIEND , THEY BEEN DOING IT . THEY BEEN DOING IT IN SECRETE . cause they cant face the truth of what I bring in person . YOU WILL get a message . FOR NOW , BIBLES ONLY . and I mean ONLY . we have GOT to start fresh now . I will send you a message . I already sent it to butero . Thanks.
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