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Post by justinadams on Jan 11, 2019 6:10:38 GMT -5
1 Corinthians 3:18 Let no one deceive himself. If any of you thinks he is wise in this age, he should become a fool, so that he may become wise. 'we do not yet know..'
It is a human thing to want to be right. To want to lord it over others. To correct them like the Pharisees did continually. They had much knowing but little understanding. They do not seem to have been a humble people.
It is so very difficult, but think on this. Criticism and Insurrection are brothers. They might bow at your feet for a little time, but some will be at your throat very soon. The critical spirit(s) seeped into the church unawares. The Apostles warned us of this. It is a wicked spirit of insurrection and it flavors so very much of our lives. It is infectious since we are so very prone to infections of our flesh.
This wicked spirit is behind the multitude of so-called denominations. Now some of them ordain gay female priests. So back-track and see where it all came from. Then denounce your involvement and let your words be few and wise.
Families are destroyed thru these critical spirits. Rejection, split-ups, divorce, hate and self-serving are the result. It is an abominable feast of cannibalism where we devour each other and the demons dance in diabolical joy as many are profaned.
Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels...
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2019 9:15:33 GMT -5
1 Corinthians 3:18 Let no one deceive himself. If any of you thinks he is wise in this age, he should become a fool, so that he may become wise. 'we do not yet know..' It is a human thing to want to be right. To want to lord it over others. To correct them like the Pharisees did continually. They had much knowing but little understanding. They do not seem to have been a humble people. It is so very difficult, but think on this. Criticism and Insurrection are brothers. They might bow at your feet for a little time, but some will be at your throat very soon. The critical spirit(s) seeped into the church unawares. The Apostles warned us of this. It is a wicked spirit of insurrection and it flavors so very much of our lives. It is infectious since we are so very prone to infections of our flesh. This wicked spirit is behind the multitude of so-called denominations. Now some of them ordain gay female priests. So back-track and see where it all came from. Then denounce your involvement and let your words be few and wise. Families are destroyed thru these critical spirits. Rejection, split-ups, divorce, hate and self-serving are the result. It is an abominable feast of cannibalism where we devour each other and the demons dance in diabolical joy as many are profaned. Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels... Amen.......our own knowledge of the facts cannot save us and keep us from wolves and deceptions and antichrists, that just becomes another deception in itself. Where it says my people are destroyed for lack of knowledge is talking about Jesus, not facts......HE is our knowledge and wisdom. The image of the beast that we need to overcome first and foremost is the image of our own SELF...which is a tree of knowledge of facts. We will only worship and feed off the Tree of Life (Jesus) as far as we have first overcome the Tree of Knowledge...the image of self. WE are that Antichrist beast, ultimately, worshiping our own image in the form of a man. Thanks be to God for His marvellous light. Not to say Antichrist won't manifest in the natural realm.....but this is showing how we overcome and then we won't have to worry and wring our hands about the Antichrist and his mark in the natural realm any more. He will just be another outward circumstance we are free to ignore and get on with the gospel no matter the cost. Ha-ha! Thank you Jesus!
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Post by frienduff on Jan 11, 2019 12:53:59 GMT -5
1 Corinthians 3:18 Let no one deceive himself. If any of you thinks he is wise in this age, he should become a fool, so that he may become wise. 'we do not yet know..' It is a human thing to want to be right. To want to lord it over others. To correct them like the Pharisees did continually. They had much knowing but little understanding. They do not seem to have been a humble people. It is so very difficult, but think on this. Criticism and Insurrection are brothers. They might bow at your feet for a little time, but some will be at your throat very soon. The critical spirit(s) seeped into the church unawares. The Apostles warned us of this. It is a wicked spirit of insurrection and it flavors so very much of our lives. It is infectious since we are so very prone to infections of our flesh. This wicked spirit is behind the multitude of so-called denominations. Now some of them ordain gay female priests. So back-track and see where it all came from. Then denounce your involvement and let your words be few and wise. Families are destroyed thru these critical spirits. Rejection, split-ups, divorce, hate and self-serving are the result. It is an abominable feast of cannibalism where we devour each other and the demons dance in diabolical joy as many are profaned. Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels... Amen.......our own knowledge of the facts cannot save us and keep us from wolves and deceptions and antichrists, that just becomes another deception in itself. Where it says my people are destroyed for lack of knowledge is talking about Jesus, not facts......HE is our knowledge and wisdom. The image of the beast that we need to overcome first and foremost is the image of our own SELF...which is a tree of knowledge of facts. We will only worship and feed off the Tree of Life (Jesus) as far as we have first overcome the Tree of Knowledge...the image of self. WE are that Antichrist beast, ultimately, worshiping our own image in the form of a man. Thanks be to God for His marvellous light. Not to say Antichrist won't manifest in the natural realm.....but this is showing how we overcome and then we won't have to worry and wring our hands about the Antichrist and his mark in the natural realm any more. He will just be another outward circumstance we are free to ignore and get on with the gospel no matter the cost. Ha-ha! Thank you Jesus! That's right sister . You are loved and let all who Love the LORD , PRAISE THE LORD with much thanksgiving . Praise the LORD .
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Post by Cletus on Jan 12, 2019 0:09:33 GMT -5
1 Corinthians 3:18 Let no one deceive himself. If any of you thinks he is wise in this age, he should become a fool, so that he may become wise. 'we do not yet know..' It is a human thing to want to be right. To want to lord it over others. To correct them like the Pharisees did continually. They had much knowing but little understanding. They do not seem to have been a humble people. It is so very difficult, but think on this. Criticism and Insurrection are brothers. They might bow at your feet for a little time, but some will be at your throat very soon. The critical spirit(s) seeped into the church unawares. The Apostles warned us of this. It is a wicked spirit of insurrection and it flavors so very much of our lives. It is infectious since we are so very prone to infections of our flesh. This wicked spirit is behind the multitude of so-called denominations. Now some of them ordain gay female priests. So back-track and see where it all came from. Then denounce your involvement and let your words be few and wise. Families are destroyed thru these critical spirits. Rejection, split-ups, divorce, hate and self-serving are the result. It is an abominable feast of cannibalism where we devour each other and the demons dance in diabolical joy as many are profaned. Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels... Amen.......our own knowledge of the facts cannot save us and keep us from wolves and deceptions and antichrists, that just becomes another deception in itself. Where it says my people are destroyed for lack of knowledge is talking about Jesus, not facts......HE is our knowledge and wisdom. The image of the beast that we need to overcome first and foremost is the image of our own SELF...which is a tree of knowledge of facts. We will only worship and feed off the Tree of Life (Jesus) as far as we have first overcome the Tree of Knowledge...the image of self. WE are that Antichrist beast, ultimately, worshiping our own image in the form of a man. Thanks be to God for His marvellous light. Not to say Antichrist won't manifest in the natural realm.....but this is showing how we overcome and then we won't have to worry and wring our hands about the Antichrist and his mark in the natural realm any more. He will just be another outward circumstance we are free to ignore and get on with the gospel no matter the cost. Ha-ha! Thank you Jesus! I was recently in a convo on another forum with someone promoting osas and they quoted out of 1 john... they were not of us. they tried to say somehow that proved osas, which it does not. I was trying to explain how that is speaking to false teachers with the spirit of antichrist in them and i provided scripture that says after we have knowledge of Jesus and the way of righteousness we can walk away. anyway, I did a lot of research and i wanted to share some of the things i learned... concerning knowledge.
during the first century there were lots of false teachers/apostles. their heresy was a forerunner for the gnosticism of the second century. it taught matter is evil and spirit is good. the duelistic view caused teachers to deny the incarnation of Christ and thus also the resurrection. they also taught the evil human body was just a shell for the spirit with in, and the body could not affect the spirit inside so ethical distinctions ceased and they begin to believe they had no sin. does this sound familiar to todays new age garbage and false teachings going on today? lol. nothing new under the sun huh? Gnosticism is derived from gnosis which means knowledge. later gnostics taught salvation by mental enlightenment which came only to spiritual elites, not regular every day christians. they substituted intellectual pursuits for faith and put speculation above the basic tenets of the gospel. does this sound similar to what some people do today in the church? nothing new under the sun huh?
It is very important what we build our foundation on. no sand. only build on The Rock.
in the epistle 1 John the verb know is in there a whole lot. I read 39 times but have as of yet only found 20 something. every time its talking about knowing God or knowing something from God.
1Co 1:25 Because the foolishness of God is wiser than men; and the weakness of God is stronger than men. 1Co 1:26 For ye see your calling, brethren, how that not many wise men after the flesh, not many mighty, not many noble, are called: 1Co 1:27 But God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise; and God hath chosen the weak things of the world to confound the things which are mighty; 1Co 1:28 And base things of the world, and things which are despised, hath God chosen, yea, and things which are not, to bring to nought things that are: 1Co 1:29 That no flesh should glory in his presence. 1Co 1:30 But of him are ye in Christ Jesus, who of God is made unto us wisdom, and righteousness, and sanctification, and redemption: 1Co 1:31 That, according as it is written, He that glorieth, let him glory in the Lord.
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Post by preciouspearl on Jan 21, 2019 16:38:01 GMT -5
what concerned me about churches and even online ministries is the fact of people seeming to put each other on a pedestal. it kind of makes some people feel left out or judged. it is even worse when you might know a person is abusive in some way but they are hiding it for others in the church or ministry.
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Post by John on Jan 21, 2019 16:54:30 GMT -5
what concerned me about churches and even online ministries is the fact of people seeming to put each other on a pedestal. it kind of makes some people feel left out or judged. it is even worse when you might know a person is abusive in some way but they are hiding it for others in the church or ministry. It sounds like you are talking about churches with cliques, where there are insiders that have all the favor, and the rest are second class. That certainly does happen. The Bible says we are not to be a respecter of persons. We should treat everyone the same. Obviously, we know some are more knowledgeable, and there are people in leadership, but the point is that we should not show partiality when it comes to how we treat each other. Partiality is a problem I have encountered at other ministries, and I try to avoid that here. It is also possible that someone will do something to cause me to have a negative view of them, and I have to fight the urge to see them as always wrong, when that may not be the case. It is one of those things where we have to evaluate ourselves from time to time and make sure we are following Jesus' teachings in that regard.
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