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Post by John on Jan 4, 2019 14:59:58 GMT -5
But his wife looked back from behind him, and she became a pillar of salt. Genesis 19:26
Remember Lot's wife. Luke 17:32
We know that the point of this story is not to turn back. Lot and his wife and daughters were plainly told by the angels to flee and not to look back, but Lot's wife looked back and became a pillar of salt, partaking in the judgement on Sodom and Gomorrah. Was she simply glancing back, or actually longing to return? Only God knows for sure, but what has always puzzled me was, why a pillar of salt? Was there some hidden meaning here in that choice of punishment by God?
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Post by 2fw8212a on Jan 4, 2019 16:24:53 GMT -5
"Salt is good; but if the salt has lost its flavor, how shall it be seasoned? It is neither fit for the land nor for the dunghill, but men throw it out..." - Luke 14:34-35
"...Have salt in yourselves, and have peace with one another." - Mark 9:50
"Whoever seeks to save his life will lose it, and whoever loses his life will preserve it." - Luke 17:33
"...If anyone desires to come after Me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow Me." - Matthew 16:24
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Post by Cletus on Jan 4, 2019 17:42:17 GMT -5
Here are a couple verses that may hold significance.
Num 18:19 All the heave offerings of the holy things, which the children of Israel offer unto the LORD, have I given thee, and thy sons and thy daughters with thee, by a statute for ever: it is a covenant of salt for ever before the LORD unto thee and to thy seed with thee.
2Ch 13:5 Ought ye not to know that the LORD God of Israel gave the kingdom over Israel to David for ever, even to him and to his sons by a covenant of salt?
In order to know for sure we would need to study out this covenant and the meaning of salt in this context, as well as possibly some of the Jewish cultures surrounding this era.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2019 9:41:55 GMT -5
Looks like Lot's wife got pickled in her own pickle juice (brine), I'm sorry to say. Phariseeically and with smug self-satisfaction looking on the judgment of her fellows. Too much salt is just as bad as not enough. Our conversation is to be full of grace and only seasoned with salt, just using the right amount that is needed. I think Lots' wife left out the grace part. :/ In all our afflictions God is afflicted, so that means if our brother is afflicted we should feel for them as well, rather than having an attitude of congratulating ourselves on having escaped the affliction.
Oba 1:10-13
For thy violence against thy brother Jacob shame shall cover thee, and thou shalt be cut off for ever.
In the day that thou stoodest on the other side, in the day that the strangers carried away captive his forces, and foreigners entered into his gates, and cast lots upon Jerusalem, even thou wast as one of them.
But thou shouldest not have looked on the day of thy brother in the day that he became a stranger; neither shouldest thou have rejoiced over the children of Judah in the day of their destruction; neither shouldest thou have spoken proudly in the day of distress.
Thou shouldest not have entered into the gate of my people in the day of their calamity; yea, thou shouldest not have looked on their affliction in the day of their calamity, nor have laid hands on their substance in the day of their calamity
Our time and energy is much better spent on moving on (to the mountains) with the Lord rather than too much time standing and denouncing our fallen brethren, otherwise we too will become rigid pillars, dead and unable to move with the Holy Spirit, that is the lesson He taught me through all these scriptures. We ourselves have yet work to do in our own hearts/lives and still a ways to go before we arrive at the top of those mountains (of the Lord).
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Post by John on Jan 5, 2019 11:41:43 GMT -5
Looks like Lot's wife got pickled in her own pickle juice (brine), I'm sorry to say. Phariseeically and with smug self-satisfaction looking on the judgment of her fellows. Too much salt is just as bad as not enough. Our conversation is to be full of grace and only seasoned with salt, just using the right amount that is needed. I think Lots' wife left out the grace part. :/ In all our afflictions God is afflicted, so that means if our brother is afflicted we should feel for them as well, rather than having an attitude of congratulating ourselves on having escaped the affliction. Oba 1:10-13
For thy violence against thy brother Jacob shame shall cover thee, and thou shalt be cut off for ever.
In the day that thou stoodest on the other side, in the day that the strangers carried away captive his forces, and foreigners entered into his gates, and cast lots upon Jerusalem, even thou wast as one of them.
But thou shouldest not have looked on the day of thy brother in the day that he became a stranger; neither shouldest thou have rejoiced over the children of Judah in the day of their destruction; neither shouldest thou have spoken proudly in the day of distress.
Thou shouldest not have entered into the gate of my people in the day of their calamity; yea, thou shouldest not have looked on their affliction in the day of their calamity, nor have laid hands on their substance in the day of their calamityOur time and energy is much better spent on moving on (to the mountains) with the Lord rather than too much time standing and denouncing our fallen brethren, otherwise we too will become rigid pillars, dead and unable to move with the Holy Spirit, that is the lesson He taught me through all these scriptures. We ourselves have yet work to do in our own hearts/lives and still a ways to go before we arrive at the top of those mountains (of the Lord). That is an interesting thought. I always looked at it like Lot's wife was looking back, sort of mourning over the loss of her home, and likely some of her family and friends. It seems Lot and his wife had daughters that were married to men of the city that refused to leave. Only the single daughters still living in their home were spared. Still, that gives me something else to think about.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2019 15:48:43 GMT -5
Looks like Lot's wife got pickled in her own pickle juice (brine), I'm sorry to say. Phariseeically and with smug self-satisfaction looking on the judgment of her fellows. Too much salt is just as bad as not enough. Our conversation is to be full of grace and only seasoned with salt, just using the right amount that is needed. I think Lots' wife left out the grace part. :/ In all our afflictions God is afflicted, so that means if our brother is afflicted we should feel for them as well, rather than having an attitude of congratulating ourselves on having escaped the affliction. Oba 1:10-13
For thy violence against thy brother Jacob shame shall cover thee, and thou shalt be cut off for ever.
In the day that thou stoodest on the other side, in the day that the strangers carried away captive his forces, and foreigners entered into his gates, and cast lots upon Jerusalem, even thou wast as one of them.
But thou shouldest not have looked on the day of thy brother in the day that he became a stranger; neither shouldest thou have rejoiced over the children of Judah in the day of their destruction; neither shouldest thou have spoken proudly in the day of distress.
Thou shouldest not have entered into the gate of my people in the day of their calamity; yea, thou shouldest not have looked on their affliction in the day of their calamity, nor have laid hands on their substance in the day of their calamityOur time and energy is much better spent on moving on (to the mountains) with the Lord rather than too much time standing and denouncing our fallen brethren, otherwise we too will become rigid pillars, dead and unable to move with the Holy Spirit, that is the lesson He taught me through all these scriptures. We ourselves have yet work to do in our own hearts/lives and still a ways to go before we arrive at the top of those mountains (of the Lord). That is an interesting thought. I always looked at it like Lot's wife was looking back, sort of mourning over the loss of her home, and likely some of her family and friends. It seems Lot and his wife had daughters that were married to men of the city that refused to leave. Only the single daughters still living in their home were spared. Still, that gives me something else to think about.
That is just what the Lord taught me brother.....His word is alive and active and there could well be more to that story. I just know that afterwards I began to put more distance between me and the apostate church.....I regarded it as having ought to do with me exactly how the Catholic church had ought to do with me. Another pitfall of the wilderness journey the Lord taught me about is that we are not to stop at Zoar, a mistake that Lot made. And of course all the lessons of the Israelites in the wilderness, hankering after the leeks and onions of Egypt, etc...that would agree perfectly with your take on Lots' wife here. Overall we are to forget what lies behind and press on to what lies ahead. Like a new beginning, starting over again with the Lord and getting cleansed of all the muck and error we picked up in the past, being careful not to repeat the same mistakes, and pressing on with Him as our faithful and good Shepherd.
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Post by Cletus on Jan 5, 2019 15:49:55 GMT -5
Looks like Lot's wife got pickled in her own pickle juice (brine), I'm sorry to say. Phariseeically and with smug self-satisfaction looking on the judgment of her fellows. Too much salt is just as bad as not enough. Our conversation is to be full of grace and only seasoned with salt, just using the right amount that is needed. I think Lots' wife left out the grace part. :/ In all our afflictions God is afflicted, so that means if our brother is afflicted we should feel for them as well, rather than having an attitude of congratulating ourselves on having escaped the affliction. Oba 1:10-13
For thy violence against thy brother Jacob shame shall cover thee, and thou shalt be cut off for ever.
In the day that thou stoodest on the other side, in the day that the strangers carried away captive his forces, and foreigners entered into his gates, and cast lots upon Jerusalem, even thou wast as one of them.
But thou shouldest not have looked on the day of thy brother in the day that he became a stranger; neither shouldest thou have rejoiced over the children of Judah in the day of their destruction; neither shouldest thou have spoken proudly in the day of distress.
Thou shouldest not have entered into the gate of my people in the day of their calamity; yea, thou shouldest not have looked on their affliction in the day of their calamity, nor have laid hands on their substance in the day of their calamityOur time and energy is much better spent on moving on (to the mountains) with the Lord rather than too much time standing and denouncing our fallen brethren, otherwise we too will become rigid pillars, dead and unable to move with the Holy Spirit, that is the lesson He taught me through all these scriptures. We ourselves have yet work to do in our own hearts/lives and still a ways to go before we arrive at the top of those mountains (of the Lord). That is an interesting thought. I always looked at it like Lot's wife was looking back, sort of mourning over the loss of her home, and likely some of her family and friends. It seems Lot and his wife had daughters that were married to men of the city that refused to leave. Only the single daughters still living in their home were spared. Still, that gives me something else to think about.
three words. yes, yes, yes. if we look at more of the passage of the scripture you posted in the OP we can see the correlation. I was going to say something about this but it didnt point to why salt, so i let it be... but since you brought that up i will now proceed.
Luk 17:26 And as it was in the days of Noe, so shall it be also in the days of the Son of man. Luk 17:27 They did eat, they drank, they married wives, they were given in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark, and the flood came, and destroyed them all. Luk 17:28 Likewise also as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold, they planted, they builded; Luk 17:29 But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all. Luk 17:30 Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed. Luk 17:31 In that day, he which shall be upon the housetop, and his stuff in the house, let him not come down to take it away: and he that is in the field, let him likewise not return back.
Mat 24:17 Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house: Mat 24:18 Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes.
Lots wife is for us today to warn us about turning back and looking at the world when Jesus is coming. If we have decided to follow Jesus... there is no turning back. we cant become entangled with the world or the cares of this life. it is important to have the mindset and attitude of heart that its all Gods provision and he is going to "cleanse it with fire" nothing we have now ... in the world is comparable to whats coming with God.
Even though its elementary level biblical knowledge, I think this is good to review from time to time, after all God did say to remember Lots wife.
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Post by frienduff on Jan 5, 2019 21:07:10 GMT -5
But his wife looked back from behind him, and she became a pillar of salt. Genesis 19:26
Remember Lot's wife. Luke 17:32
We know that the point of this story is not to turn back. Lot and his wife and daughters were plainly told by the angels to flee and not to look back, but Lot's wife looked back and became a pillar of salt, partaking in the judgement on Sodom and Gomorrah. Was she simply glancing back, or actually longing to return? Only God knows for sure, but what has always puzzled me was, why a pillar of salt? Was there some hidden meaning here in that choice of punishment by God? But if the salt has lost its flavor it is good for nothing . The same one who said that , said Let no man return or look back , REMEMBER LOTTS WIFE . I think its tied right into the useless salt that gets trod down .
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Post by Cletus on Jan 5, 2019 22:18:52 GMT -5
But his wife looked back from behind him, and she became a pillar of salt. Genesis 19:26
Remember Lot's wife. Luke 17:32
We know that the point of this story is not to turn back. Lot and his wife and daughters were plainly told by the angels to flee and not to look back, but Lot's wife looked back and became a pillar of salt, partaking in the judgement on Sodom and Gomorrah. Was she simply glancing back, or actually longing to return? Only God knows for sure, but what has always puzzled me was, why a pillar of salt? Was there some hidden meaning here in that choice of punishment by God? But if the salt has lost its flavor it is good for nothing . The same one who said that , said Let no man return or look back , REMEMBER LOTTS WIFE . I think its tied right into the useless salt that gets trod down .
and if you think about it for a minute what you said ties in with the verses i posted above about a covenant of salt.
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