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Post by John on Jan 28, 2019 13:46:51 GMT -5
I really am serious in what I say about some of the men here teaching other men. I don’t want this forum to be seen as a place where women are beaten up all the time. To me, we should be teaching what the Bible says about men and women without compromise.
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Post by PG4Him on Jan 28, 2019 13:51:57 GMT -5
All I mean by this, Cletus and John , is that I don’t want a lack of men’s teaching, so it looks like we think men are off the hook. I meant women being beaten up here as in beating the sheep — harping on their failures all the time. I appreciate John offering insight on male causes of divorce.
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Post by PG4Him on Jan 28, 2019 14:30:57 GMT -5
women these days are crazy. not all of them. but the ones that are are pure poison. not even worth talking to them. manipulative lying soul destroying gold digging Judas Iscariots... deceitful with kisses. betrayers. To be honest I agree with this completely. I would estimate that 80% of women in Western society are functionally unstable with psychopathic tendencies.
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Post by John on Jan 28, 2019 14:37:43 GMT -5
women these days are crazy. not all of them. but the ones that are are pure poison. not even worth talking to them. manipulative lying soul destroying gold digging Judas Iscariots... deceitful with kisses. betrayers. To be honest I agree with this completely. I would estimate that 80% of women in Western society are functionally unstable with psychopathic tendencies. What do you see as being the reason for this, and do you think there is a solution?
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Post by John on Jan 28, 2019 14:45:41 GMT -5
women these days are crazy. not all of them. but the ones that are are pure poison. not even worth talking to them. manipulative lying soul destroying gold digging Judas Iscariots... deceitful with kisses. betrayers. To be honest I agree with this completely. I would estimate that 80% of women in Western society are functionally unstable with psychopathic tendencies. Is it 80 percent? I would say a clear majority, but the men are screwed up too. I think a lot has to do with not understanding their role. It has created confusion.
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Post by John on Jan 28, 2019 15:39:57 GMT -5
Having had a chance to think about this matter, I do not think it is that men and women are mentally ill, but they are often times immature and ill prepared for life, so you see grown men and women behaving like children. I started a new thread on that topic after considering what has been said here. The problem effects men and women.
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Post by PG4Him on Jan 28, 2019 16:07:46 GMT -5
To be honest I agree with this completely. I would estimate that 80% of women in Western society are functionally unstable with psychopathic tendencies. What do you see as being the reason for this, and do you think there is a solution?
Here are some reasons why women are the way they are: 1) God is allowing reprobation since His words were tossed aside 2) Most of their social and emotional development came through daycare workers, babysitters, and peers as their absentee single mother depended on “help” from countless fragmented fill-in guardians. Each environment has its own set of values. There is no stable continuity. Children thus learn to perform for whichever person they must tolerate at that moment. Most of their guardians and caregivers are overgrown children who teach them conflict resolution from an under-developed perspective. 3) Criticism of the child is not allowed. Teachers incur a mother’s wrath when they call a lazy child lazy. “Don’t parent my child” is the battle cry. Thus a child is accountable to no one but the absentee mom. An authority figure standing before her is to be tolerated, not obeyed. 4) Public programs and cultural bias insulate her from consequences. There are many other factors, but these are some of the biggest.
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Post by 4hizglory37 on Jan 28, 2019 17:48:22 GMT -5
What you all said is true, but our true adversary is the devil. He is the cause of all this strife in the marriages. He is our real enemy. He is the one that kills, steals, and destroys. He has been after the marriage and family since the beginning of time. He did that with Adam and Eve. We must take all these things to prayer. We must pray for our own marriages, the marriages of our friends, our pastors, our neighbors and pleading the blood of Jesus over all of it. We can fight with Prayer.
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Post by PG4Him on Jan 28, 2019 18:10:30 GMT -5
These are definitely spiritual issues. Most of the women caught in this mindset simply don’t know any better. We need to get back to serious prayer and objective Bible teaching.
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Post by justinadams on Jan 28, 2019 18:27:00 GMT -5
What do you see as being the reason for this, and do you think there is a solution?
Here are some reasons why women are the way they are: 1) God is allowing reprobation since His words were tossed aside 2) Most of their social and emotional development came through daycare workers, babysitters, and peers as their absentee single mother depended on “help” from countless fragmented fill-in guardians. Each environment has its own set of values. There is no stable continuity. Children thus learn to perform for whichever person they must tolerate at that moment. Most of their guardians and caregivers are overgrown children who teach them conflict resolution from an under-developed perspective. 3) Criticism of the child is not allowed. Teachers incur a mother’s wrath when they call a lazy child lazy. “Don’t parent my child” is the battle cry. Thus a child is accountable to no one but the absentee mom. An authority figure standing before her is to be tolerated, not obeyed. 4) Public programs and cultural bias insulate her from consequences. There are many other factors, but these are some of the biggest. And sadly, men become irrelevant due to not being in the social and schooling loop, especially if they travel extensively. It is very easy to loose track and become a little distant from the issues. Often men will just 'relax' and take very good heed to quiet in their down-times. This is not an excuse but rather just one of the reasons that men are often seen as distant from the nuts and bolt of society and their families. The men can seem to be harsh at times when they are ill-equipped to handle family pressure. Although the buck stops with them, they really do not know what to do when faced with many social complications. If they are involved in a work situation that is well organized and requires them to be on the ball so things get done quickly and with a minimum of fuss, going home to a crazy mixed up noisy family can be alarming at times. Generally men want things in order where you can see the end from the beginning. The women might be able to have a deep phone conversation while the kids are screaming, but not so for most men. They work differently and also think differently. If it is broke - fix it. If it is not broke, leave it alone. Unimaginative is a judgement I hear about family men from women. That may be so. If your tablet or phone is never far from your grasp, perhaps that also contributes to the divide. Yeshua died for us while we were lost, sinners and broken. It is a harsh world full of ambiguities and pitfalls especially if the man does not or can not communicate readily - especially in a situation of turmoil and strife. Often the father is considered a sociopath for his treatment of his children. Abuse is a primer when it comes to the social services. If they ever get to question your children, for whatever reason, the abuse card is used and you can kiss your family goodbye. The social services are really an oxymoron. Very sad is the dad that gets on the wrong side of any of them - mostly women, who seem to have an invisible ax to grind. There IS NO redress against them... They seem to be a godless entity and are untouchable. Most men I know are angered by this. That make things even worse when outsiders come in uninvited. (keep up your ACLJ subscriptions)
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Post by PG4Him on Jan 28, 2019 21:13:34 GMT -5
Men accused of abuse can only get out of it with indisputable video or DNA evidence. If he can’t prove beyond a doubt that it didn’t happen, a presumption of guilt will hang over him forever. Then feminists go around saying only 5% of abuse accusations are false. Ahem, only 5% of men are fortunate enough to have a video. That’s all the statistic really means.
If any other crime worked that way — you’re assumed guilty when one person says so, and only a video can defend you — the conviction rate for that crime would also be 95%.
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Post by Cletus on Jan 28, 2019 21:16:16 GMT -5
All I mean by this, Cletus and John , is that I don’t want a lack of men’s teaching, so it looks like we think men are off the hook. I meant women being beaten up here as in beating the sheep — harping on their failures all the time. I appreciate John offering insight on male causes of divorce. I do not want that either... and to be clear men are more on the hook than women because they are to be the head of household and even in church. When God came walking in the cool of the evening in the garden and called out to Adam... He spoke to Adam first. Adam blamed his wife and then God spoke to Eve. so lets just acknowledge this... men are uhm... i dont know the word but i know the scripture... to whom much is given much is expected. men have more of a responsibility on certain things than a woman does and this accountability is to God. God has a lot of names, but none of them is Milton Bradley.... He aint playing games.
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Post by 4hizglory37 on Jan 28, 2019 21:26:27 GMT -5
All I mean by this, Cletus and John , is that I don’t want a lack of men’s teaching, so it looks like we think men are off the hook. I meant women being beaten up here as in beating the sheep — harping on their failures all the time. I appreciate John offering insight on male causes of divorce. I do not want that either... and to be clear men are more on the hook than women because they are to be the head of household and even in church. When God came walking in the cool of the evening in the garden and called out to Adam... He spoke to Adam first. Adam blamed his wife and then God spoke to Eve. so lets just acknowledge this... men are uhm... i dont know the word but i know the scripture... to whom much is given much is expected. men have more of a responsibility on certain things than a woman does and this accountability is to God. God has a lot of names, but none of them is Milton Bradley.... He aint playing games. Actually Adam blamed God saying "The woman you gave me" He was right there when the serpent was talking to Eve and when Eve said that if she ate the fruit that she would die....Adam didn't correct her or say things like, hey, don't listen to that serpent and his lies. He did not step up to the role of spiritual head and leader. You are right Cletus, men will be held of a higher responsibility.
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Post by PG4Him on Jan 28, 2019 21:33:51 GMT -5
We need to exhort young people of both genders to fulfill their God-given roles. I know I sound like I’m hard on women, but it’s only because I’m preaching to my own kind. Men have their own issues.
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Post by Cletus on Jan 28, 2019 23:52:58 GMT -5
I do not want that either... and to be clear men are more on the hook than women because they are to be the head of household and even in church. When God came walking in the cool of the evening in the garden and called out to Adam... He spoke to Adam first. Adam blamed his wife and then God spoke to Eve. so lets just acknowledge this... men are uhm... i dont know the word but i know the scripture... to whom much is given much is expected. men have more of a responsibility on certain things than a woman does and this accountability is to God. God has a lot of names, but none of them is Milton Bradley.... He aint playing games. Actually Adam blamed God saying "The woman you gave me" He was right there when the serpent was talking to Eve and when Eve said that if she ate the fruit that she would die....Adam didn't correct her or say things like, hey, don't listen to that serpent and his lies. He did not step up to the role of spiritual head and leader. You are right Cletus, men will be held of a higher responsibility. Gen 3:12 And the man said, The woman whom thou gavest to be with me, she gave me of the tree, and I did eat.
he blamed Eve and God. He also owned up to it but he was pointing the finger of blame at both God and Eve but check this part out...
Gen 3:6 And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat.
Adam was there. He saw it go down. He was with her.
Gen 2:15 And the LORD God took the man, and put him into the garden of Eden to dress it and to keep it. Gen 2:16 And the LORD God commanded the man, saying, Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat: Gen 2:17 But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die. Gen 2:18 And the LORD God said, It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him.
Eve was not even created when God commanded Adam not to eat. God knows everything... God knew the moment they ate because that breath of life died in them and they had a dead spirit. disconnected from God. no more constant fellowship. sin brought death that day just as God said. It was mans job not only to tend the garden but to be head of the family too.
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