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Post by PG4Him on Mar 3, 2019 16:10:50 GMT -5
I’m not disagreeing with Cletus. All I’m saying is it cuts both ways, but it seems like the non-athletes are the only ones who get their little trophies made fun of. Parents don’t criticize grading on a curve, giving extra credit for ridiculous things, using group projects to bail out thre stupid kids, or making sure the “busy” students get extra tutoring. It hurts when you get an A because you knew the material but the kid next to you got an A because he scammed the system. Athletes have learned that they can play dumb and the teacher will find a way to pass them. But that little trophy the skinny got, that’s made fun of.
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Post by John on Mar 3, 2019 16:23:04 GMT -5
I’m not disagreeing with Cletus. All I’m saying is it cuts both ways, but it seems like the non-athletes are the only ones who get their little trophies made fun of. Parents don’t criticize grading on a curve, giving extra credit for ridiculous things, using group projects to bail out thre stupid kids, or making sure the “busy” students get extra tutoring. It hurts when you get an A because you knew the material but the kid next to you got an A because he scammed the system. Athletes have learned that they can play dumb and the teacher will find a way to pass them. But that little trophy the skinny got, that’s made fun of. You do have a valid point. They aren't doing athletes any favors by not making them know the material. In the public school system, there were people in High School that could barely read, but to allow them to keep advancing, they put them in classes for slow students. You would have people graduating where one was a straight A student who took and passed college preparation classes and could read well and another who got passing grades who was on a 2nd or 3rd grade level, but both got the same High School Diploma. That is hardly fair, but who really got hurt? That one that passed but can't read isn't prepared for life, where the other person is. I guess there is no perfect system.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2019 7:18:58 GMT -5
I was thinking about something sister Candance said about 80 percent of women in western societies being mentally unstable, which at first seemed high, but I could probably say that about our whole society. Much of this is the result of parents not preparing their children for life as an adult. Boys are not taught about the need for a good job and to be financial stability before getting married, and girls are not taught how to be a good housewife and Mother. Boys are allowed to do nothing for themselves the whole time they are in school, as are girls, so the are used to their parents doing everything for them. Boys aren't used to working and girls know nothing about cooking and cleaning and raising children. Both are taught to be selfish and not anything about working as a team in marriage. Much of it has to do with getting away from the Bible, but in times past, even sinners would train up their children better. Then you go from one disfunctional family raising children after another, and the cycle repeats itself and things get worse. I am not sure it is mental illness so much as lack of training for real life. It is a real problem. You will have people in their 30s who are mentally like teenagers.
I have been labeled mentally unstable but I've had excellent home training. Mom made sure I knew how to keep a house clean. I don't think my upringing was the issue. I just think the Enemy is using the reversed gender roles in our generation to confuse and hurt us. Understanding my value and role as a woman has caused me nothing but peace as a single person and even in my now-troubled marriage. I can see where you're coming from, though. I think my mental issues came into play when it was time to leave for college. I had been sheltered, cherished, and protected by my parents my whole life. Everyone at a big college won't do that. And in fact, some have issues and shouldn't be trusted. That transition from obedient child to adult with major life choices was hard for me. I didn't know how to not be overly trusting. I thought everyone was good like my family. So soooo not always the case.
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Post by John on Mar 13, 2019 8:41:34 GMT -5
It is a major transition going from living at home with your parents to being on your own, whether single or married. Most are not prepared. And no, not everyone is good, not even in the church. That is why there are warnings about wolves, goats and tares.
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Post by joseph on Apr 15, 2019 17:08:43 GMT -5
The family unit is broken in the untied states. It has been devastating and embarrassing that so many 'church' families and 'church 'goers' are taught all their lives to leave the family or be pushed out when they are eighteen give or take a litte,
---- it is not right nor is it God's Way, nor is it God's People's Way seen in Scripture...
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Post by PG4Him on Apr 15, 2019 17:23:42 GMT -5
The family unit is broken in the untied states. It has been devastating and embarrassing that so many 'church' families and 'church 'goers' are taught all their lives to leave the family or be pushed out when they are eighteen give or take a litte, ---- it is not right nor is it God's Way, nor is it God's People's Way seen in Scripture... I’ve had many arguments with my fellow Americans about that. This whole obsession with financial independence at age 18 is crazy.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2019 7:15:39 GMT -5
College students are not "adults" by any stretch....they need to still be dependent on and under the authority of their parents. Not to mention supervised and under curfews and chaperones when they are away from home. Society has taken leave of it's senses, a curse of departing from the Lord...young naive girls get raped or exploited, at epidemic levels....young men die or suffer injury in hazing incidents or alcohol poisoning.
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Post by John on Apr 23, 2019 19:22:03 GMT -5
The family unit is broken in the untied states. It has been devastating and embarrassing that so many 'church' families and 'church 'goers' are taught all their lives to leave the family or be pushed out when they are eighteen give or take a litte, ---- it is not right nor is it God's Way, nor is it God's People's Way seen in Scripture... joseph, if you don't mind, could you go into detail about what you think is the Biblical way to do things regarding this issue? It is pretty much the norm to look at an 18 year old as an adult, and while not all families push their children out at that age, it is assumed that they will leave and go out on their own shortly after their 18th birthday.
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Post by John on Apr 23, 2019 19:25:00 GMT -5
The family unit is broken in the untied states. It has been devastating and embarrassing that so many 'church' families and 'church 'goers' are taught all their lives to leave the family or be pushed out when they are eighteen give or take a litte, ---- it is not right nor is it God's Way, nor is it God's People's Way seen in Scripture... I’ve had many arguments with my fellow Americans about that. This whole obsession with financial independence at age 18 is crazy. It is nearly impossible for anyone to be financially independent when they turn 18, especially if they were in the public school system till 18. Where are they getting this financial freedom? This is a serious problem. Nobody is taught the importance of getting their finances in order before they go out on their own and get married and start their own life.
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Post by John on Apr 23, 2019 19:26:01 GMT -5
College students are not "adults" by any stretch....they need to still be dependent on and under the authority of their parents. Not to mention supervised and under curfews and chaperones when they are away from home. Society has taken leave of it's senses, a curse of departing from the Lord...young naive girls get raped or exploited, at epidemic levels....young men die or suffer injury in hazing incidents or alcohol poisoning. That makes sense, but it is completely the opposite of the way things are done in America.
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Post by joseph on May 1, 2019 13:22:38 GMT -5
The family unit is broken in the untied states. It has been devastating and embarrassing that so many 'church' families and 'church 'goers' are taught all their lives to leave the family or be pushed out when they are eighteen give or take a litte, ---- it is not right nor is it God's Way, nor is it God's People's Way seen in Scripture... joseph, if you don't mind, could you go into detail about what you think is the Biblical way to do things regarding this issue? It is pretty much the norm to look at an 18 year old as an adult, and while not all families push their children out at that age, it is assumed that they will leave and go out on their own shortly after their 18th birthday.
I agree with TORAH, the way Yahuweh's People lived , both their family life with their tribes and national (all as one, together, not separated ideas) as they were led by Yahuweh...... they were not "perfect" all the time, but they almost always stayed together , when blessed by Yahuweh obviously, and even when scourged by Yahuweh also..... they were "raised in the way they should go" so much more than gentiles in any nation ..... they were raised and grew up (and today grow up) with more knowledge of TORAH, of Yahuweh, (even of Yahushua Messiah, the believers anyway) , than any gentiles I have ever been aware of, and their lives centered on serving Yahuweh, their lives revolved every day around Yahuweh, whether farming, building, traveling, going to market, especially TEMPLE and SYNAGOGUE being major part of their lives willingly, devotedly, always in mind, every day. The idea portrayed throughout the untied states EVERY DAY for decades is an abomination to all who love Yahushua (Jesus), making it look like grandma and grandpa can live happy and without worry by hanging a button around their neck (but NO ONE ELSE IS WITH THEM !!!!! IN THEIR HOME OR DWELLING) .... That is sheer wickedness and getting more evil every day, indoctrinating everyone from conception thru all ages, via schools and television and movies and internet and teachingsb even in churches and so-called church "life" (i.e. death) ...
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Post by joseph on May 24, 2019 13:22:37 GMT -5
excerpt from online page: (related to heathen world everyone is raised in, believers particularly (for hope, help, and healing) ) "Desire" "The Spiritual Man, CFP, Vol. 2, Part 7 THE ANALYSIS OF THE SOUL-EMOTION, Ch. 3, by Watchman Nee
"DESIRE OCCUPIES the largest part of our emotional life: it joins forces with our will to rebel against God’s will. Our innumerable desires create such confused feelings in us that we cannot quietly follow the spirit. They arouse our feelings and make for many turbulent experiences. Before one is set free from the power of sin his desire unites with sin in making him love sin and in depriving the new man of his freedom. After he is liberated from sin’s outward manifestations the same desire drives him to seek for himself many things outside God. And while a person is still in the emotional state he is controlled mainly by his desire. Not until the cross has performed its deeper work and one’s desire has been judged in the light of the cross can he wholly live in the spirit and for God.
When a Christian remains carnal he is ruled vigorously by his desire. All natural or soulish desires and ambitions are linked with self life. They are for self, by self, or after self. While carnal, one’s will is not yielded fully to the Lord, and so he holds many ideas of his own. His desire then works together with his ideas to make him delight in what he wills to have and to expect to have his own ideas realized. All self-delight, self-glory, self-exaltation, self-love, self-pity and self-importance issue from man’s desire and render self the center of everything. Can we conjure up anything man himself desires which is not linked to something of self? If we examine ourselves in the light of the Lord we shall see that all our aspirations, no matter how noble, cannot escape the bounds of self. All are for it! If they are not self-pleasing, then they are self-glorifying. How can a Christian live in the spirit if he is engulfed in such a condition? "
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