PG4Him
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Post by PG4Him on Feb 6, 2019 19:11:52 GMT -5
They allow a few dissenters in the mix as long as you mind your manners and don’t push back with difficult arguments. When things aren’t going in their favor, they will use trollish tactics to change the subject, confuse people, or try to make you angry. Any intelligent person can read the thread and see exactly who the troll was. Yet there’s no accountability. Many, many times I’ve had to click away from WCF because it was so disappointing.
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Post by John on Feb 6, 2019 19:23:11 GMT -5
They allow a few dissenters in the mix as long as you mind your manners and don’t push back with difficult arguments. When things aren’t going in their favor, they will use trollish tactics to change the subject, confuse people, or try to make you angry. Any intelligent person can read the thread and see exactly who the troll was. Yet there’s no accountability. Many, many times I’ve had to click away from WCF because it was so disappointing. It is all controlled opposition. They need a certain amount of people on the other side to make it appear they allow it, but they also want it to appear hardly anyone thinks that way, so they will out number them like 5 or 6 to 1. If the numbers start evening out, they find excuses to ban people from threads, put people on moderator review or ban them outright. It creates an illusion. Those who disagree with George's position appear isolated or like they are on the fringe. What you see is not reality.
There could be a lot of disagreement with OSAS and other positions George holds to, but we can't see it. For all anyone knows, they are removing posts, but you won't know about it. They have removed Soap Box debates that didn't go George's way, and he had claimed they don't do that. I was actually told by a moderator they cannot treat everyone the same, regardless of their views, even if they don't violate the SOF. How many would join that corrupt place if they understood those things? That is what makes it so bad, the deceit.
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Cletus
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Post by Cletus on Feb 6, 2019 21:26:33 GMT -5
i can understand a bottle of water in church. but anything else... its not time or place. its time to respect and honor and worship God. eat your coffee and donuts on your time. and another thought on coffee and donuts... did you bring some for everyone? Its not polite to eat in front of others... but i guess these days people dont raise their kids to know stuff like that anymore. or they just dont care? i dont even like it when they call veterans up to the front of the church to honor them... not that i dont like vets or respect them... but next time your in a church and they mention this sit still. sit quiet. and listen to The Spirit. watch how fast His presence fades... listen to Him. He is still there. but He is a little bit sad that we changed the subject. church is for assembling together for God. nothing else. its disrespect to God. I have to take my warm tea with me to keep my throat moist for worship, does that count against that? no... that is exactly the thing i was saying is understood and fine. i didnt really say that tho.
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Cletus
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Post by Cletus on Feb 6, 2019 21:33:44 GMT -5
i can understand a bottle of water in church. but anything else... its not time or place. its time to respect and honor and worship God. eat your coffee and donuts on your time. and another thought on coffee and donuts... did you bring some for everyone? Its not polite to eat in front of others... but i guess these days people dont raise their kids to know stuff like that anymore. or they just dont care? i dont even like it when they call veterans up to the front of the church to honor them... not that i dont like vets or respect them... but next time your in a church and they mention this sit still. sit quiet. and listen to The Spirit. watch how fast His presence fades... listen to Him. He is still there. but He is a little bit sad that we changed the subject. church is for assembling together for God. nothing else. its disrespect to God. Doughnuts and coffee and even free beer are all things churches use to get people to show up. Long gone are the days where men wore a suit and tie and the ladies a nice dress. Now people must be able to show up looking worse than they could get away with at work. On top of that, you have to bribe them to show up. Times have changed a lot since I got saved back in 1982. I saw things really turn for the worse in the 90s. Back in the 80s, people would dress respectfully to go to a gospel singing and sat respectfully, not eating and drinking.
wow. i never saw that in any church i been to. maybe during sunday school, or in the fellowship hall. one church i went to we did sunday school in the fellowship hall that was just a hodge podge of a kitchen, dining room and sometimes we turned it into a small chapel or if not many people showed up we did church in there to save on electricity. we used the fold up metal chairs. no carpet. but when it was church it was understood no eating... and you can have a bottle of water.
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Post by John on Feb 6, 2019 22:18:00 GMT -5
Doughnuts and coffee and even free beer are all things churches use to get people to show up. Long gone are the days where men wore a suit and tie and the ladies a nice dress. Now people must be able to show up looking worse than they could get away with at work. On top of that, you have to bribe them to show up. Times have changed a lot since I got saved back in 1982. I saw things really turn for the worse in the 90s. Back in the 80s, people would dress respectfully to go to a gospel singing and sat respectfully, not eating and drinking.
wow. i never saw that in any church i been to. maybe during sunday school, or in the fellowship hall. one church i went to we did sunday school in the fellowship hall that was just a hodge podge of a kitchen, dining room and sometimes we turned it into a small chapel or if not many people showed up we did church in there to save on electricity. we used the fold up metal chairs. no carpet. but when it was church it was understood no eating... and you can have a bottle of water. They are trying any trick they can come up with to fill the pews in some places.
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Post by frienduff on Feb 6, 2019 22:21:02 GMT -5
If you’re a popular part of the OSAS clique, you can say almost anything you like there. I’ve seen some truly shameful behavior. That is why I was saying Worthy Christian Forums has become an OSAS cult. I don't think Shiloh, Davida and Cobalt were banned for any reason besides they ticked George off in that thread in the political section. I would imagine he likes telling stories that it was about their behavior, to give him cover over the OSAS issue, but for the most part, if you are OSAS, you can get away with almost anything. The one exception is if you attack George or any position he takes openly.
And yet , LETTERS CAME ON WITH A HEART FOR CHRIST and they ran him off for preaching JESUS . isn't that so sad FOR THEM . I mean letters was mean to no one . He just cameon with wonderous RED JESUS LETTER WORDS and was ran out .
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Post by frienduff on Feb 6, 2019 22:23:06 GMT -5
wow. i never saw that in any church i been to. maybe during sunday school, or in the fellowship hall. one church i went to we did sunday school in the fellowship hall that was just a hodge podge of a kitchen, dining room and sometimes we turned it into a small chapel or if not many people showed up we did church in there to save on electricity. we used the fold up metal chairs. no carpet. but when it was church it was understood no eating... and you can have a bottle of water. They are trying any trick they can come up with to fill the pews in some places.
I know an old hound that is on that site , and one whiff off that stuff and it bays out against it . no need to name who it is .
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Post by John on Feb 6, 2019 22:30:01 GMT -5
That is why I was saying Worthy Christian Forums has become an OSAS cult. I don't think Shiloh, Davida and Cobalt were banned for any reason besides they ticked George off in that thread in the political section. I would imagine he likes telling stories that it was about their behavior, to give him cover over the OSAS issue, but for the most part, if you are OSAS, you can get away with almost anything. The one exception is if you attack George or any position he takes openly.
And yet , LETTERS CAME ON WITH A HEART FOR CHRIST and they ran him off for preaching JESUS . isn't that so sad FOR THEM . I mean letters was mean to no one . He just cameon with wonderous RED JESUS LETTER WORDS and was ran out .
I witnessed what happened to Letters or 4L as I called him at WCF. He was in a thread that George got involved in. Davida attacked him, and he made a comment about prophets not being accepted. Yowm wrote that 4L accused Davida of not being saved. George was there and took up for Davida and went along with Yowm's lie, as though Letters really said that. Next thing I know, Letters was on moderator review. I went to George and told him Letters never said that, showed him it was false, and George didn't care. He said Letters was told what he had to do to get off of moderator review. Now if this was on the up and up, Letters would have been taken immediately off moderator review simply because the charge was false, but this is how they do things. They make up false charges, make them stick using false witnesses, and discipline people to silence them. It has been going on for years. I have always believed that the reason they hesitated to ban me all those years was fear I would retaliate. I have no reason not to share everything I know about them now, and I know quite a bit about them.
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Post by John on Feb 6, 2019 22:31:58 GMT -5
They are trying any trick they can come up with to fill the pews in some places.
I know an old hound that is on that site , and one whiff off that stuff and it bays out against it . no need to name who it is .
It is better that we not share any contacts, spies, aliases or anything like that with anyone. That is the only way to keep them safe.
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