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Post by frienduff on Feb 11, 2019 13:13:39 GMT -5
Commandment or not or implied or not, I do think that we should be helping the poor, and I do think a ministry to the homeless is a good thing. You just don't want them to become dependent. That is why I would love to see a ministry to build small houses with just the basics a person would need to house the homeless. That way, you could give them an address, which is pretty much needed to get a job. You could get them some decent clothes, and help them find work. Then they could remain at that home for a certain amount of time while they save enough money to get their own apartment, and help people really get out of poverty. I don't like the current system which keeps people permanently homeless and only throws food and supplies at them, but never gives them assistance to get on their feet.
If the govt ever suggests this , RUN . Work programs for the poor so they can get on their feet . OH , it might sound good , but beware what it really is . This is how the poor get enslaved and a nation does too . But no matter what is coming or building , let us focus on Christ and let no man be deceived . Oh hillery a few years back suggested FUN CAMPS , where we can all come together and talk politics and etc. RIGHT . Try inmprisonment camps . But now fun seems harmless . Just as perhaps ghettos provided for the jews may have seemed a good thing and harmless . DIDNT end harmless . None of this will either . I highly suspect before this is over , the blood of many saints who conformed not to the beast, its image or took its mark will flow in the streets . BUT then the BIBLE says this so we KNOW it will occur . What we are seeing is the finishing touches on such a system that truly is about ready to kick off . When once the delusion has filled the minds full, THEN know and understand what our LORD said we will see it for ourselves , experience it full force . THEN shall many betray many , being offended , and you will be hated of all nations for my name sake . Its easy to see how this will be . Due to the last touches of this delusion have even all religions uniting as one . Whoever wont unite , WELL they will be betrayed . We aint in the early stages , them days are long gone , we in the last stages , the final touch that leads all to the lie of a universal all inclusive god who shall play as though he is god . The darkness has long been preparing the minds and hearts for the final hour .
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Post by PG4Him on Feb 11, 2019 13:28:44 GMT -5
Bonus marchers learned the hard truth about “shovel ready jobs” one humid summer in Florida...
Cletus I’m glad you’ve had good experiences with charity work. It’s never been something that went well for me. I’m sure I sound like a negative ninny on this subject. I’ve volunteered at medical charities and other things, but it always seemed like I was going against the grain and not acheiving much. Just no anointing. It works out better for me to stay in the background and donate funds.
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Post by John on Feb 11, 2019 14:05:06 GMT -5
Bonus marchers learned the hard truth about “shovel ready jobs” one humid summer in Florida... Cletus I’m glad you’ve had good experiences with charity work. It’s never been something that went well for me. I’m sure I sound like a negative ninny on this subject. I’ve volunteered at medical charities and other things, but it always seemed like I was going against the grain and not acheiving much. Just no anointing. It works out better for me to stay in the background and donate funds. Those charities depend on people like you to continue, so I believe you share in their rewards.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2019 15:03:30 GMT -5
The NT church had one congregation per town. It wasn’t like today where we have dozens of denominations putting a church building on every street corner. You would have to get all the denominations to agree on the methods and policies. And technically speaking, the NT required that anyone with living relatives would have to stay with them. These days people are so impossible with each other that bridges are irreparably burned. Doesn't it go to show how Jesus has called us to a life that is completely impossible to live without the Holy Spirit! And I think He left the denominations a long time ago......and wants to start over again so to speak with a remnant who will do things HIS way.
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Post by PG4Him on Feb 11, 2019 15:06:29 GMT -5
Heavenly love is too exquisite for this world. We are truly pilgrims and foreigners.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2019 15:32:39 GMT -5
Bonus marchers learned the hard truth about “shovel ready jobs” one humid summer in Florida... Cletus I’m glad you’ve had good experiences with charity work. It’s never been something that went well for me. I’m sure I sound like a negative ninny on this subject. I’ve volunteered at medical charities and other things, but it always seemed like I was going against the grain and not acheiving much. Just no anointing. It works out better for me to stay in the background and donate funds. I think the things Cletus is talking about really has to do with how the church should be as a whole...it doesn't mean everyone individually is called to "wait on tables"...each one has their own part individually. Giving money and goods is a very legitimate and much needed activity of course, and will not go unrewarded. And/or any other ways a person may be called to do. It's possible you weren't labouring with other spirit filled believers in those charities, so that also could be a reason why it would have felt empty......and much better if the charity work goes hand in hand with being a gospel outreach, and then the Lord would really be present in it, rather than it just being a social project as such. The poor we will always have with us....it's much more important where those poor are going to spend eternity. We really aren't called to change the world, just hearts....helping and sharing with the poor is a demonstration of the love of Christ to draw hearts to Him.
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Post by frienduff on Feb 11, 2019 18:22:01 GMT -5
The NT church had one congregation per town. It wasn’t like today where we have dozens of denominations putting a church building on every street corner. You would have to get all the denominations to agree on the methods and policies. And technically speaking, the NT required that anyone with living relatives would have to stay with them. These days people are so impossible with each other that bridges are irreparably burned. Doesn't it go to show how Jesus has called us to a life that is completely impossible to live without the Holy Spirit! And I think He left the denominations a long time ago......and wants to start over again so to speak with a remnant who will do things HIS way. And yet with the HOLY SPIRIT its great joy .
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Post by frienduff on Feb 11, 2019 18:24:23 GMT -5
Bonus marchers learned the hard truth about “shovel ready jobs” one humid summer in Florida... Cletus I’m glad you’ve had good experiences with charity work. It’s never been something that went well for me. I’m sure I sound like a negative ninny on this subject. I’ve volunteered at medical charities and other things, but it always seemed like I was going against the grain and not acheiving much. Just no anointing. It works out better for me to stay in the background and donate funds. I think the things Cletus is talking about really has to do with how the church should be as a whole...it doesn't mean everyone individually is called to "wait on tables"...each one has their own part individually. Giving money and goods is a very legitimate and much needed activity of course, and will not go unrewarded. And/or any other ways a person may be called to do. It's possible you weren't labouring with other spirit filled believers in those charities, so that also could be a reason why it would have felt empty......and much better if the charity work goes hand in hand with being a gospel outreach, and then the Lord would really be present in it, rather than it just being a social project as such. The poor we will always have with us....it's much more important where those poor are going to spend eternity. We really aren't called to change the world, just hearts....helping and sharing with the poor is a demonstration of the love of Christ to draw hearts to Him. exactly sister . its why I cry and cringe when I see all these rick warren ministrires and oprah wimphrey and so on , They got no gospel , just good works and unity with all mindsets . What a empty mission . FOR IF JESUS aint in it , ITS DEAD and EMPTY .
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Post by frienduff on Feb 11, 2019 18:26:40 GMT -5
Heavenly love is too exquisite for this world. We are truly pilgrims and foreigners. Tell that to pope francis , who said we can find common ground in FOOTBALL . Yeah he said it two super bowls back . What a dead end message that has no life . O pope , has it not been said , OUR COMMON ground has naught to do with the things of this world , BUT CHRIST ALONE . THAT is the common ground . JESUS ONLY or it is but deaths vapor .
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Post by Cletus on Feb 12, 2019 0:56:41 GMT -5
Bonus marchers learned the hard truth about “shovel ready jobs” one humid summer in Florida... Cletus I’m glad you’ve had good experiences with charity work. It’s never been something that went well for me. I’m sure I sound like a negative ninny on this subject. I’ve volunteered at medical charities and other things, but it always seemed like I was going against the grain and not acheiving much. Just no anointing. It works out better for me to stay in the background and donate funds. some are called to be pastors... prophets... apostles... etc. do all prophesy... do all interpret... do all speak in tongues?
but the hand cant say to the foot... i have no need of you. you have some skill, some talent, something. you are pretty smart, and i know that from reading what you write. you know stuff like cardinal number forms. (one of the more recent wows.)
its humid here in texas too... and i can run a shovel all day, rock clay, gumbo. I do not do so well in an office tho... and unless i have to, i dont/wont. I would rather be outside running a shovel, please and thank you.
what is something that went well for you?
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Post by PG4Him on Feb 12, 2019 8:08:16 GMT -5
God uses me best for intercessory prayer, one-on-one exhortation, and donating funds/goods from a distance. I get exhausted when I talk to a lot of different people. Noisy/chaotic environments make me nervous. If I can stay home and be a blessing through the internet, I’d rather do that.
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Post by frienduff on Feb 12, 2019 16:11:02 GMT -5
God uses me best for intercessory prayer, one-on-one exhortation, and donating funds/goods from a distance. I get exhausted when I talk to a lot of different people. Noisy/chaotic environments make me nervous. If I can stay home and be a blessing through the internet, I’d rather do that. Sister , you throw those hands up N tha AIR and PRAISE THE LORD . KEEP praying dear sister . keep on . You are loved .
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Post by justinadams on Feb 13, 2019 5:47:34 GMT -5
God uses me best for intercessory prayer, one-on-one exhortation, and donating funds/goods from a distance. I get exhausted when I talk to a lot of different people. Noisy/chaotic environments make me nervous. If I can stay home and be a blessing through the internet, I’d rather do that. I understand. Far from the madding crowd. For forty years I traveled fixing control systems. Sometimes lonely, but working alone never bothered me at all. The cacophony of constant noise actually abraids my senses. I often would wear my earplugs even in a restaurant. Getting to sleep was always a trial, not only from hotels and such but just from odd noises and folk slamming doors and kids running up and down at two am. The most restful sleep was always in the 'plane, going or coming, except the NZ trips which were sooo boring. If one happened to be married to a 'crisis-queen' (like I was) then life in the airport was peaceful in comparison. The phone calls I often got would give me a dose of the runs. But facing a mill that was down, with bosses bouncing from foot to foot never bothered me at all. I just got to work and managed (with the Lords help) to get them up and running OK. I have since given away most of my substance that survived the chapter seven I had to endure. Life certainly has been interesting but I do not yearn crowds or the noise of many voices - all seeking attention. It is nice to be quiet and thoughtful. Like flying your own 'plane in the still cold air of early morning. Cannot beat that.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2019 8:22:44 GMT -5
God uses me best for intercessory prayer, one-on-one exhortation, and donating funds/goods from a distance. I get exhausted when I talk to a lot of different people. Noisy/chaotic environments make me nervous. If I can stay home and be a blessing through the internet, I’d rather do that. There are things written in scripture that apply to the church as a whole, but not to every individual in the church. Each one needs to wait upon the Lord for his/her own part and be led by Him......and not be pressured and guilt-tripped by religious folks into doing what God is not individually leading us to do. We can do nothing without Him....if He is not in something either because He hasn't led us there, or we haven't been prepared for it yet, then we just won't have the proper unction to do the task. I think women especially often feel pressured nowadays to be involved in ways that woman are not generally called by God to be. And the need to remain under the protective covering and authority of our husbands also gets forgotten. We have not been designed generally to be "out there" and exposed to the fray, but mostly for behind the scenes kinds of works. (There are exceptions, as Deborah is an example, but I'm talking generally. And even Deborah got pressured to go to a battle that she didn't really need to be at.) Other factors may involve the need for healing or removal of other hindrances, and we need to seek the Lord whenever He brings to our awareness things that are in the way of our moving freely as the Spirit leads. We are winning this war, one battle at a time, little by little, going from victory to victory. Praise the Lord, He knows the way that we take.
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Post by frienduff on Feb 13, 2019 18:23:17 GMT -5
Sister watchful , throw those hands up and praise the Lord . You are loved dear sister .
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