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Post by Giller on Feb 12, 2019 18:24:14 GMT -5
Psa 139:23-24 (23) Search me, O God, and know my heart: try me, and know my thoughts: (24) And see if there be any wicked way in me, and lead me in the way everlasting.
I really like this scripture.
And we need to be open to examine ourselves every now and again.
Here is an interesting scripture:
Pro 25:16 (16) Hast thou found honey? eat so much as is sufficient for thee, lest thou be filled therewith, and vomit it.
Even though there is a literal physical aspect to this verse, of eating too much honey, could there be a spiritual aspect to it?
Here are comments on this:
(Adam Clarke)
(Proverbs 25:16
Hast thou found honey? - Make a moderate use of all thy enjoyments. “Let thy moderation be known unto all, and appear in all things.”)
(Joseph Benson)
(Proverbs 25:16
Hast thou found honey? — Which, in those parts, was often found in woods or fields. By honey, he understands not only all delicious meats, but all present and worldly delights, which we are here taught to use with moderation: for as honey, moderately taken, strengthens the body and prolongs life, but, if taken to excess, disturbs the stomach, and turns the pleasure into pain; so it is with earthly satisfactions and pursuits. Moderately used they are refreshing and useful; immoderately, they produce disgust, or are accompanied with guilt and followed by trouble.)
And one thing that I have been thinking upon, is how much do we take time to properly spiritually chew on the word of God?
Are we spiritually digesting it properly?
To were it becomes real in our lives, or do we just rush through it?
And how many times do Christians hear a certain truth, yet do not properly chew on the word, and thus it does not become a reality in their lives, and thus not bearing much fruit, and thus basically vomiting it?
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Post by Cletus on Feb 12, 2019 20:24:02 GMT -5
i think the spiritual aspect is this:
honey tastes sweet and is desirable, and healthy for you... Pro_24:13 My son, eat thou honey, because it is good; and the honeycomb, which is sweet to thy taste:
getting wisdom and knowledge is also sweet (and what proverbs is about) and desirable and "nutritious"... but we should not seek to be to wise, or to high for us or above our capacity,
anything in excess is bad: Pro_25:27 It is not good to eat much honey: so for men to search their own glory is not glory.
we need to stay within the bounds of the portion God gives and let that satisfy us... not go outside that or try to exceed Gods expectations or provisions for us and our life.
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Post by Giller on Feb 12, 2019 21:08:55 GMT -5
i think the spiritual aspect is this: honey tastes sweet and is desirable, and healthy for you... Pro_24:13 My son, eat thou honey, because it is good; and the honeycomb, which is sweet to thy taste: getting wisdom and knowledge is also sweet (and what proverbs is about) and desirable and "nutritious"... but we should not seek to be to wise, or to high for us or above our capacity, anything in excess is bad: Pro_25:27 It is not good to eat much honey: so for men to search their own glory is not glory.
we need to stay within the bounds of the portion God gives and let that satisfy us... not go outside that or try to exceed Gods expectations or provisions for us and our life. Cletus thanks for sharing, and this makes me think of a few scriptures, here is the first one: 1Co 8:1 (1) Now as touching things offered unto idols, we know that we all have knowledge. Knowledge puffeth up, but charity edifieth. But also it makes me think of this scripture: Luk 8:16-18 (16) No man, when he hath lighted a candle, covereth it with a vessel, or putteth it under a bed; but setteth it on a candlestick, that they which enter in may see the light. (17) For nothing is secret, that shall not be made manifest; neither any thing hid, that shall not be known and come abroad. (18) Take heed therefore how ye hear: for whosoever hath, to him shall be given; and whosoever hath not, from him shall be taken even that which he seemeth to have. It is important to take heed to how we hear the word of God, and also how we receive it. Which makes me think of the parable of the seed. Mat 13:20-23 (20) But he that received the seed into stony places, the same is he that heareth the word, and anon with joy receiveth it; (21) Yet hath he not root in himself, but dureth for a while: for when tribulation or persecution ariseth because of the word, by and by he is offended. (22) He also that received seed among the thorns is he that heareth the word; and the care of this world, and the deceitfulness of riches, choke the word, and he becometh unfruitful. (23) But he that received seed into the good ground is he that heareth the word, and understandeth it; which also beareth fruit, and bringeth forth, some an hundredfold, some sixty, some thirty.
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Post by frienduff on Feb 12, 2019 22:19:21 GMT -5
i think the spiritual aspect is this: honey tastes sweet and is desirable, and healthy for you... Pro_24:13 My son, eat thou honey, because it is good; and the honeycomb, which is sweet to thy taste: getting wisdom and knowledge is also sweet (and what proverbs is about) and desirable and "nutritious"... but we should not seek to be to wise, or to high for us or above our capacity, anything in excess is bad: Pro_25:27 It is not good to eat much honey: so for men to search their own glory is not glory.
we need to stay within the bounds of the portion God gives and let that satisfy us... not go outside that or try to exceed Gods expectations or provisions for us and our life. exactly Cletus . most seek tons of wisdom and etc , BUT WHY , SO THEY CAN LOOK GOOD AND BE EXALTED AND PRAISED OF MEN . They do it for their own glory AND NOT the GLORY which is GODS ALONE .
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Feb 13, 2019 7:18:54 GMT -5
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Post by Giller on Feb 13, 2019 7:18:54 GMT -5
Another scripture I think about is this one:
Luk 8:15 (15) But that on the good ground are they, which in an honest and good heart, having heard the word, keep it, and bring forth fruit with patience.
I really love all of it, but I am zeroing in on the part that says, to bring forth fruit with patience.
Here is another scripture to think upon, and I really pray that this helps people in recognizing things:
Php 4:6 (6) Be careful for nothing; but in every thing by prayer and supplication with thanksgiving let your requests be made known unto God.
That is to be full of care for nothing or not to be anxious, and sometimes instead of yielding oneself to Christ's salvation, and letting patience have her perfect work, people try to receive the word, approaching it, in a form of panic.
Approaching things in a way to were it is not about truly seeking only God's will, but we try to add our agenda to God's agenda, or our thoughts to God's thoughts.
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Post by Giller on Feb 13, 2019 8:35:41 GMT -5
I am just trying to provoke people to careful thought through this thread, simply because I care.
And personally I think that the things I quoted from Adam Clarke, and Joseph Benson, and the things that Cletus shared, all are truthful in the areas that they covered.
To me Cletus has been a real blessing to me in many ways.
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Feb 13, 2019 8:39:34 GMT -5
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Post by Giller on Feb 13, 2019 8:39:34 GMT -5
I just have a lot of thoughts on this subject, so I will share some more.
Jas 4:7 (7) Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you.
See it is first submission, and then one is able to resist the devil.
We come to God on his terms, through a humble heart, then God can do his work, and we can do the things he asks of us.
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Post by John on Feb 13, 2019 8:41:01 GMT -5
i think the spiritual aspect is this: honey tastes sweet and is desirable, and healthy for you... Pro_24:13 My son, eat thou honey, because it is good; and the honeycomb, which is sweet to thy taste: getting wisdom and knowledge is also sweet (and what proverbs is about) and desirable and "nutritious"... but we should not seek to be to wise, or to high for us or above our capacity, anything in excess is bad: Pro_25:27 It is not good to eat much honey: so for men to search their own glory is not glory.
we need to stay within the bounds of the portion God gives and let that satisfy us... not go outside that or try to exceed Gods expectations or provisions for us and our life. exactly Cletus . most seek tons of wisdom and etc , BUT WHY , SO THEY CAN LOOK GOOD AND BE EXALTED AND PRAISED OF MEN . They do it for their own glory AND NOT the GLORY which is GODS ALONE .
That is certainly true of natural wisdom.
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Feb 13, 2019 8:45:31 GMT -5
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Post by Giller on Feb 13, 2019 8:45:31 GMT -5
Jos 1:8 (8) This book of the law shall not depart out of thy mouth; but thou shalt meditate therein day and night, that thou mayest observe to do according to all that is written therein: for then thou shalt make thy way prosperous, and then thou shalt have good success.
Many times we can rush too quickly through the word, and often times as a result it won't really bear the fruit it ought to, and to meditate upon the word, is to think upon it, to give careful thought upon, to were you submit yourself to it, and then God can do his work, and you can bear fruit.
Is it ok to know a lot of things concerning the word of God? Absolutely, for there is no limit, but in saying this, think upon it carefully, let God do his work, give yourself wholly to it, and do not go ahead of the Lord.
Let God reveal it to you.
Let patience, and not impulse have her perfect work.
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Feb 13, 2019 9:18:00 GMT -5
Post by John on Feb 13, 2019 9:18:00 GMT -5
Jos 1:8 (8) This book of the law shall not depart out of thy mouth; but thou shalt meditate therein day and night, that thou mayest observe to do according to all that is written therein: for then thou shalt make thy way prosperous, and then thou shalt have good success. Many times we can rush too quickly through the word, and often times as a result it won't really bear the fruit it ought to, and to meditate upon the word, is to think upon it, to give careful thought upon, to were you submit yourself to it, and then God can do his work, and you can bear fruit. Is it ok to know a lot of things concerning the word of God? Absolutely, for there is no limit, but in saying this, think upon it carefully, let God do his work, give yourself wholly to it, and do not go ahead of the Lord. Let God reveal it to you. Let patience, and not impulse have her perfect work. With regard to scripture, I try to do both. I read through the Bible, but also do focused studies. The Lord can show you things even when you read in haste, because things you hadn't noticed before will stand out, and then you can look into them closer.
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Feb 13, 2019 9:52:14 GMT -5
Post by Giller on Feb 13, 2019 9:52:14 GMT -5
God can show many things in many ways but it is important to meditate upon the word as the word of God says.
Here are a few scriptures on the word haste:
Pro 14:29 (29) He that is slow to wrath is of great understanding: but he that is hasty of spirit exalteth folly.
Pro 29:20 (20) Seest thou a man that is hasty in his words? there is more hope of a fool than of him.
Now each of these verses have their own context of course.
And here is a Strong's concordance definition of the word haste:
(Strong's concordance)
(H213
אוּץ
'ûts
oots
A primitive root; to press; (by implication) to be close, hurry, withdraw: - (make) haste (-n, -y), labor, be narrow.
Total KJV occurrences: 10)
Now here is the word haste used in an ok way:
Act 22:18 (18) And saw him saying unto me, Make haste, and get thee quickly out of Jerusalem: for they will not receive thy testimony concerning me.
Psa 40:13 (13) Be pleased, O LORD, to deliver me: O LORD, make haste to help me.
And here is the word haste used in a not ok way:
Pro 1:15-16 (15) My son, walk not thou in the way with them; refrain thy foot from their path: (16) For their feet run to evil, and make haste to shed blood.
Now here is a definition on the word impulsive:
(Oxford dictionary)
(impulsive
adjective
1Acting or done without forethought.
‘they'd married as impulsive teenagers’
‘he regretted his impulsive offer’)
There are times that God may show something were you may have read things quickly, but for it to become more real in our lives, we really need to meditate upon it (as the word says), let it sink in, let it do it's work, submit ourselves to it.
Let us not be impulsive, let us have a close and careful walk with God.
To give careful thought upon his word.
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Post by John on Feb 13, 2019 10:05:19 GMT -5
It may seem strange, but I learned some things when I went through the Bible quickly I never would have just meditating on individual passages. That is because I saw the big picture that way. When you only meditate on individual passages, you can miss things. I think it is good to do both.
If you have a Bible on cd, and you will go through an entire 75 minute cd of the Bible each day till you finish, you will see things in a different light. If you can read along, that is even better. When you pick up on interesting things you missed before, meditate on them.
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Post by Giller on Feb 13, 2019 10:24:24 GMT -5
Oh I do read whole chapters at times, even many chapters, but I tend to do so carefully, and do not rush through it.
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Post by John on Feb 13, 2019 10:27:28 GMT -5
Oh I do read whole chapters at times, even many chapters, but I tend to do so carefully, and do not rush through it. I mean like whole books, like Genesis straight through, or Romans straight through.
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Feb 13, 2019 10:28:27 GMT -5
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Post by Giller on Feb 13, 2019 10:28:27 GMT -5
Oh I do read whole chapters at times, even many chapters, but I tend to do so carefully, and do not rush through it. I mean like whole books, like Genesis straight through, or Romans straight through.
Ya it has happened, not always in the same day.
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