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Post by frienduff on Mar 10, 2019 11:03:40 GMT -5
Even now their are many anti christs . Be on guard my friends . And dig ever more as we cling to the Lord . I am off to do some research for a bit . Let all rejoice n the Lord and keep praying the Lord send laborers into the harvest .
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Post by John on Mar 10, 2019 18:58:43 GMT -5
Dan 8:11 (11) Yea, he magnified himself even to the prince of the host, and by him the daily sacrifice was taken away, and the place of his sanctuary was cast down. Here is a comment from Jimmy Swaggart on this scripture: (Jimmy Swaggart)
(“Yes he magnified himself even to the prince of the host, “refers to the Antichrist usurping authority over the High Priest of Israel. These Verses actually speak of the war which will be instituted by the Antichrist when he breaks his seven-year Covenant with Israel and other countries, actually invading the” pleasant land.”
He will defeat Israel and stop the daily sacrifices, which will have been re-instituted by Israel after a lapse of approximately 2,000 years. This tells us that the Jewish Temple is going to be rebuilt.)Now what I will say in a bit, I did not get it from Jimmy, or no one. And here is my 2 cents on this scripture. First of all the word “ host” can mean, many things in the bible, it can mean a mass of persons, and it can mean other things as well, but one of the meanings of the word host, is service. And you can know the meaning of the thing, by what the context speaks of. What kind of service does it speak of in Daniel 8:11? It is talking about temple service, such as the daily sacrifices; and who was the prince of this type of service? It was the high priest. It says of the Antichrist that he would magnify himself even to the prince of the host, which seems that he will take over that position, and will get rid of the daily sacrifices, so if he gets rid of the daily sacrifices, and the oblations, and so on, what will happen? The priests and the high priest will be relieved of their duties, thus they shall be taken out of the way, they will no longer be in the way of the Antichrist. Which very well could be that the high priest and the men that will be assigned to be Levitical priests, may have a type of resistance towards any man coming in the temple to proclaim themselves as a god, therefore the Antichrist has to get rid of them, before he can march into the temple, take over as high priest, and proclaim himself as God. And then because of his act, it seems that it will trigger something inside of some people, and they will now see that this person in front of them is indeed the Antichrist, for that is when the Antichrist shall be revealed in who he is. And at this time, may the time when the 666 riddle is solved. 2Th 2:6 (6) And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time. The Antichrist gets revealed in his time, and no other time. 2Th 2:4 (4) Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God. This is when he gets revealed in who he is. 2Th 2:7-8 (7) For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way. (8) And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming: So who is the “he” who now letteth? I believe it is this high priest, which is an “he”, which has to be taken out of the way. Now concerning the mystery of iniquity, which is the spirit of antichrist, it was working in Paul’s day, so it was in operation, but concerning the “he” who now letteth, it does not say it was at work, or in operation, but rather it shows that he was hindering in Paul’s day, but hindering what, and how? What was being hindered was the revealing of who the Antichrist is, so basically what was being hindered was the prophecy of the Antichrist being revealed, coming to pass. So it is obvious that the “he” if it refers to and end time high priest, it was said in a figurative way. So “he” the high priest was hindering in Paul’s day, the prophecy of the Antichrist being revealed, from coming to pass. Why was he hindering that prophecy from coming to pass in Paul’s day? Because he was not yet alive in Paul’s day, and in order for the prophecy of the revealing of the Antichrist to come to pass, he had to be alive. And on top of that, he also had to be taken out of the way, but taken out of the way, when? In the Antichrist’s time, and not in Paul’s time. And the only way for “he” to be taken out of the way, was for him to first be alive. Does God still raise up prophets to warn about the Anti-christ? God is certainly capable of raising up prophets to tell us who the anti-Christ is, but I don't know that he would want us to know. There have been people that have made claims they knew who he was, but there is no way to prove it, and in the past, some have been proven false.
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Post by Giller on Mar 11, 2019 22:50:51 GMT -5
Anyhow back to the falling away.
We know that the word falling away in the Greek, is the word apostasia.
Here is the Strong's concordance definition:
(Strong's concordance)
(G646 ἀποστασία apostasia ap-os-tas-ee'-ah
Feminine of the same as G647; defection from truth (properly the state), (“apostasy”): - falling away, forsake.
Total KJV occurrences: 2)
I truly believe that one of the big moves which brought about our modern day apostasy, was the Vatican 2 ecumenical council, which put a lot of things in place for Roman Catholicism's plans, to bring other religions, but also the Christian church under it's wings.
(https://www.desiringgod.org/articles/what-happened-at-vatican-ii)
(...It was fifty years ago today that Roman Catholicism launched what many consider to be the most ambitious of its 21 ecumenical councils. Called the Second Vatican Council, or Vatican II, the three-plus-year series of gatherings began under Pope John XXIII on October 11, 1962, and concluded under Pope Paul VI on December 8, 1965. Half a century later, Vatican II remains the most recent of Catholicism’s official worldwide councils....
...Why Vatican II?
In October 1958, Italian Cardinal Angelo Giuseppe Roncalli was elected pope at the age of 77. Ascending to the papacy at such an old age, he was expected to be a mere caretaker and bridge the short gap to the next ecclesiastical head. But less than three months into office, in January of 1959, he surprised many by calling for the convening of an ecumenical council. Over two years of formal preparations went into launching the meetings on October 11, 1962. It was the first council to be called in almost a century (Vatican I ended in 1870), and only the third since the Reformation (the Council of Trent spanned 1545 to 1563)....
...What Vatican II Changed
Vatican II brought some major changes to the Roman church. Most obvious were changes in the mass, which had been said in Latin, with priests facing away from the congregation, often speaking quietly (even mumbling).... ...After the council, the feel of the mass changed drastically. It now was to be conducted in the language of the people, and participation was encouraged in new ways, with new possibilities granted for music and singing, and women allowed into upfront roles as readers, lectors, and Eucharistic ministers, as well as altar servers in some places (though some bishops and priests still discourage it). The sweeping reforms also included no longer forbidding Catholic attendance at Protestant services or reading from a Protestant Bible....
...On previous occasions, Rome has changed her tactics when old methods became ineffective, but she has never changed her nature....
...Boettner concluded that Vatican II
makes it abundantly clear that Rome has no intention of revising any of her basic doctrine, but only of updating her methods and techniques for more efficient administration and to present a more attractive appearance. This is designed to make it easier for the Eastern Orthodox, Anglican, and Protestant churches to return to her fold....)
You can see a lot of key things here, the Roman Catholic church, always tries different tactics in bringing other religions, and the Christian church under her, in fact she still calls herself the "mother" church.
She has not changed her doctrines, just her tactics.
She may have stopped strictly preaching her doctrines in Latin, as a result of Vatican 2, but is still preaching the same false gospel.
It is said that she no longer forbade Catholic attendance at Protestant services or reading from protestant bibles.
And I do not believe this included churches that truly stood up for God, and was against Catholicism, but no doubt it included many of the protestants, or Christian churches, especially them that were involved in ecumenical ism.
That is them that sought this false unity.
And notice one thing, is that it says that it did not forbid Catholics from reading from Protestant bibles, yet notice what most modern translations are translated from, it is from the Sinaiticus, and the Vaticanus texts, is that a coincidence?
Absolutely not!!!
I think it is part of the plan.
And I believe that many if not most modern day bible versions are being used in this apostasy, in getting people to not care about the accuracy of the bible, in desensitizing people in not caring about adding or taking away out of the word, and thus gradually people are caring less and less, their guards are being let down, and it is happening right in front of them, yet they do not see it, because they have been gradually lulled into it.
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Post by John on Mar 12, 2019 9:38:06 GMT -5
The RCC was always about unifying all religions by incorporating pagan practices with Christianity. True Christians can't go along with such things as praying to statues and Mary worship. It is a type of idolatry. Teaching that we can't trust our KJV Bible is dangerous and does open the door to accept lies. The Catholic Bible is one of the worst translations out there.
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Post by Giller on Mar 12, 2019 9:44:32 GMT -5
The RCC was always about unifying all religions by incorporating pagan practices with Christianity. True Christians can't go along with such things as praying to statues and Mary worship. It is a type of idolatry. Teaching that we can't trust our KJV Bible is dangerous and does open the door to accept lies. The Catholic Bible is one of the worst translations out there.
Well throughout it's history, it has used mainly 2 tactics, either a type of ecumenicalism or a type of inquisition. There are times at certain points of their history, to were ecumenicalism was not in mind, but rather destruction, killing off the opposition, but when things like this do not work, then they go with ecumenicalism.
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Post by Giller on Mar 14, 2019 13:50:43 GMT -5
Here is very good information, of how involved Roman Catholicism, is not only in their own bible translations, but also with protestant translations. (https://brandplucked.webs.com/jameswhiteppopevv.htm)(...The Jesuit Cardinal Martini served on the editorial committee for the United Bible Societies' 2nd, 3rd and 4th editions, and he is still listed on the opening page of the latest Nestle-Aland 28th edition critical text. These are the "bibles" most modern Christians are using today when they pick up the ESV, NIV, NASB, NET or modern Catholic "bibles". In 1965, Pope Paul VI authorized the publication of a new Latin Vulgate, with the Latin text conformed to the United Bible Societies Greek New Testament (Michael de Semlyen, All Roads Lead to Rome, p. 201). In 1987 a formal agreement was made between the Roman Catholic Church and the United Bible Societies that the critical Greek New Testament will be used for all future translations, both Catholic and Protestant (Guidelines for International Cooperation in Translating the Bible, Rome, 1987, p. 5). Most of the translations produced by the United Bible Societies are “interconfessional,” meaning they have Roman Catholic participation and backing.” It is interesting to note that the latest United Bible Societies Text, descended from the Westcott and Hort family, boasts, "the new text is a reality, and as the text distributed by the United Bible Societies and by the corresponding office of the Roman Catholic Church it has rapidly become the commonly accepted text for research and study in universities and church." - Kurt Aland and Barbara Aland, The Text of the New Testament (Grand Rapids: Wm B Eerdmans, 1995), 35. I have a copy of the Nestle-Aland Novum Testamentum Graece 27th edition right here in front of me. It is the same Greek text as the UBS (United Bible Society) 4th edition. These are the Greek readings and texts that are followed by such modern versions as the ESV, NIV, NASB, Holman Standard AND the new Catholic versions like the St. Joseph New American Bible 1970 and the New Jerusalem bible 1985. If you have a copy of the Nestle-Aland 27th edition, open the book and read what they tell us in their own words on page 45 of the Introduction. Here these critical Greek text editors tell us about how the Greek New Testament (GNT, now known as the UBS) and the Nestle-Aland Novum Testamentum Graece grew together and shared the same basic text. In the last paragraph on page 45 we read these words: "The text shared by these two editions was adopted internationally by Bible Societies, and FOLLOWING AN AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE VATICAN AND THE UNITIED BIBLE SOCIETIES IT HAS SERVED AS THE BASIS FOR THE NEW TRANSLATIONS AND FOR REVISIONS MADE UNDER THEIR SUPERVISION. This marks a significant step with regard to interconfessional relationships. It should naturally be understood that this text is a working text: it is not to be considered as definitive, but as a stimulus to further efforts toward defining and verifying the text of the New Testament." There it is folks, in their own words. They openly admit that this text is the result of an agreement between the Vatican and the UBS and that the text itself is not "definitive" - it can change, as it already has and will do so in the future, and is not the infallible words of God but merely "a stimulus to further efforts". And this is the type of “infallible Bible” men like James White are promoting. As I previously said, I have read James White’s book several times and have written several articles dealing with the examples of alleged “errors” he claims to have found in the King James Bible. James White is a smooth and fast talker and he has a lot of experience debating people. However upon further investigation and study, I have found much of his apparent “scholarship” to be often not true and sometimes even shoddy....)
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Post by Giller on Mar 14, 2019 23:40:02 GMT -5
So here are some of the ways that the apostasy is happening:
1.People are being told there is no perfect bible, people are being pointed to corrupt texts or watered down bible versions, which are backed by the Vatican.
What is it doing? It is getting people, to care less and less about errors in the bible, it is getting people to not care as much about adding or taking away from the word, it is gradually desensitizing people from biblical truth.
Some will say maybe this verse does not contain this or that truth, but another verse has that truth, now that maybe true, but why doesn't that particular verse not have that truth in the first place?
Many truths are gradually fading, and it is worse in some bibles than others, and another thing it is doing, is getting people to not search these truths out in an honest way or with less honesty.
See the desensitization is gradual, it is designed so people let their guards down, and the more you let your guards down, the easier it is to accept a lie, and fall into apostasy.
And it is actually bringing gradual doubt concerning biblical truths, such as this scripture:
Psa 12:6-7 (6) The words of the LORD are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times. (7) Thou shalt keep them, O LORD, thou shalt preserve them from this generation for ever.
God said he would preserve his word, and he has done so, through the KJV in the English, and the Martin bible in the French and so on.
God wants us to know what his word says, so why would he not preserve it, so we can know what it says?
If God says something, he will accomplish what he says he will do.
And one thing that is happening, is that certain people are being proclaimed as being experts of Greek and Hebrew, or experts of bible version issues, and as a result of many saying, we do not have the complete bible, or we do not have an accurate bible, just pieces of truth, and what this is doing, and what these watered down bible versions are being used for, is as a stepping stone to get people, not to trust in what the bible says, but to trust in what man says, or trust in the so-called experts, rather than rely on God, and allowing the Holy Spirit to reveal the truth to you.
See it is being used as a tool to gradually desensitize men, from trusting God, and them putting their trust in men, such as this James White fella, which is a so called bible version expert.
So you want to know the truth, just ask the so-called bible expert.
2. Redefining what the word love means.
It is a false love that is being promoted, and in some cases it is men thinking that they can reach people through compromise, which does not work, it is a love that is not based on truth.
You do not win people through compromise, you win people by remaining true to the word of God, by showing a strong stance.
Compromise really gives an heir of hypocrisy, and does not show true humbleness and humility, but rather it shows pride, man thinking they can win men to the Lord, through their own ways, and through well self righteousness.
Compromise will lead to a down fall, and not to an honest witness.
This false love really creates dishonesty, and some will say well I will change them by my being like them, but what they do not realize is this, that through their compromise, they are already being changed, in becoming worldly or like the world, thus they are not being truly conformed to Christ's image, thus being a true witness.
And I think there are other things contributing to the apostasy, and one question, I want to ask is, what specific doctrines are being used to bring about this ecumenical movement?
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Post by frienduff on Mar 15, 2019 12:19:58 GMT -5
The RCC was always about unifying all religions by incorporating pagan practices with Christianity. True Christians can't go along with such things as praying to statues and Mary worship. It is a type of idolatry. Teaching that we can't trust our KJV Bible is dangerous and does open the door to accept lies. The Catholic Bible is one of the worst translations out there.
Well throughout it's history, it has used mainly 2 tactics, either a type of ecumenicalism or a type of inquisition. There are times at certain points of their history, to were ecumenicalism was not in mind, but rather destruction, killing off the opposition, but when things like this do not work, then they go with ecumenicalism. And now a word . As we are hitting the climax of this ecumincalism lie , as more and more are buying it and its sold under a false love , What will soon happen . After the ecumenical lie has filled the minds and hearts of the world , BE READY for it will become the largest INQUISTIION EVER . Anyone remember what happened under that . What happened under inquisitions . Hugs , NO death to all who opposed . OH YEAH its repeating all right , ONLY NOW as soon as the ecumincal approach has reached the last man and has filled the minds full of even greater darkness and lies , HERE will begin the largest world wide inquisition , and it wont be coming with hugs , BUT WITH Death sentences to all who refused its lie . HISTORY DOES REPEAT . OH BUT IT DOES . And this will be the end time climax spoken of long ago . I know , I know folks might say , OH but they always focus on love , hugs , unity , peace , FOR NOW they do . But what else are they doing now . Take a guess what is already going on . THEY done found a scapegoat . TRUE BIBLICAL CHRISTAINS who PREACH THE GOSPLE . They already hinting at who the problem with all the world is AND they already hinting at something which can solve the worlds ills . A hint , WHAT DID POPE francis say again , OH YEAH the RFID IS A Gift from GOD. That can solve the ills of the world . THEY GETTING the minds and hearts ready for two things . To take the solution and to hate any and all who refused it and did not conform to the all inclusive lie . FOLKS we in the latter stages of all this . NOW let all open them books , and READ revelations again . YEP its on the rise and most are totally blind to it . they think its some kind of a big love unity end time awakening harvest for souls , NO ITS NOT , its a delusion to make ready the hearts and minds for total worship of the beast and to take its mark .
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Post by frienduff on Mar 15, 2019 12:30:40 GMT -5
That's right giller , they done pumped a false love out unto many . SEE that DO YA . YEP . By grace do you know how I knew this was all off , First the SPIRIT put the real LOVE of GOD on my heart that LOVED and LOVES PURE TRUTH . so I knew something was off . By grace since HE had put me In ONLY that bible , as I learned I KNEW IT WAS DEAD FALSE what was going on . Wanna know a simple way of seeing this . GOD IS TRUTH , GOD IS LOVE . BUT GOD CANNNOT DENY HIMSELF , CONTRADICT HIMSELF . SO how on earth can HIS LOVE CONTRADICT HIS TRUTH . IT CANT . THUS any pattern contradictory of Christ , no matter how its sold , IS FALSE . Folks are not listning they are not heeding HIM . Instead many have been lulled to sleep by men who can make great marvelous orations and speechs . And yet the truth is VOID in these teachings . This was all one big plan from satan himself . Cause confusion and doubt . If a man has no foundation to stand on , nothing to trust in HE FALLS . So go after the word of GOD , but do it in a very crafity way . AND THEY DID . OH THEY DID . BUT , THE SHEEP DID NOT HEAR THEM . I SAY AGAIN the SHEEP DO NOT HEAR THEM . THEY FOLLOW CHRIST and see right through their smokescreen of vanity and lies . JESUS HAS HIS OWN . HE DOES . And they will not , shall not , follow any stranger . Put those hands up and praise the LORD , HE has His . Let us be on double guard and only warn more , encourage more , do all to point to ONLY JESUS and Let the people know we do have an accurate BIBLE . KJV. And if we cant get some to read it at first , THEN PUMP the truth out to them and do it daily , exhort daily till all are built up in the true faith which was once delivered unto the saints. Its a war giller and satan as a roaming lion takes captive many now . And soon the dragon delievers all power unto the beast who this ecumenical lie has been leading them right too all along . AND TIME is running out .
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2019 16:10:01 GMT -5
So here are some of the ways that the apostasy is happening: 1.People are being told there is no perfect bible, people are being pointed to corrupt texts or watered down bible versions, which are backed by the Vatican. What is it doing? It is getting people, to care less and less about errors in the bible, it is getting people to not care as much about adding or taking away from the word, it is gradually desensitizing people from biblical truth. Some will say maybe this verse does not contain this or that truth, but another verse has that truth, now that maybe true, but why doesn't that particular verse not have that truth in the first place? Many truths are gradually fading, and it is worse in some bibles than others, and another thing it is doing, is getting people to not search these truths out in an honest way or with less honesty. See the desensitization is gradual, it is designed so people let their guards down, and the more you let your guards down, the easier it is to accept a lie, and fall into apostasy. And it is actually bringing gradual doubt concerning biblical truths, such as this scripture: Psa 12:6-7 (6) The words of the LORD are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times. (7) Thou shalt keep them, O LORD, thou shalt preserve them from this generation for ever. God said he would preserve his word, and he has done so, through the KJV in the English, and the Martin bible in the French and so on. God wants us to know what his word says, so why would he not preserve it, so we can know what it says? If God says something, he will accomplish what he says he will do. And one thing that is happening, is that certain people are being proclaimed as being experts of Greek and Hebrew, or experts of bible version issues, and as a result of many saying, we do not have the complete bible, or we do not have an accurate bible, just pieces of truth, and what this is doing, and what these watered down bible versions are being used for, is as a stepping stone to get people, not to trust in what the bible says, but to trust in what man says, or trust in the so-called experts, rather than rely on God, and allowing the Holy Spirit to reveal the truth to you. See it is being used as a tool to gradually desensitize men, from trusting God, and them putting their trust in men, such as this James White fella, which is a so called bible version expert. So you want to know the truth, just ask the so-called bible expert. 2. Redefining what the word love means. It is a false love that is being promoted, and in some cases it is men thinking that they can reach people through compromise, which does not work, it is a love that is not based on truth. You do not win people through compromise, you win people by remaining true to the word of God, by showing a strong stance. Compromise really gives an heir of hypocrisy, and does not show true humbleness and humility, but rather it shows pride, man thinking they can win men to the Lord, through their own ways, and through well self righteousness. Compromise will lead to a down fall, and not to an honest witness. This false love really creates dishonesty, and some will say well I will change them by my being like them, but what they do not realize is this, that through their compromise, they are already being changed, in becoming worldly or like the world, thus they are not being truly conformed to Christ's image, thus being a true witness. And I think there are other things contributing to the apostasy, and one question, I want to ask is, what specific doctrines are being used to bring about this ecumenical movement? Two words: Reformed Calvinism. But God delivered me out of it so anything is possible with God.
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Post by Giller on Mar 19, 2019 9:16:02 GMT -5
2Th 2:8-12 (8) And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming: (9) Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders, (10) And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. (11) And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: (12) That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
I believe of course that the Antichrist shall be revealed in who he is, when he marches into the temple, proclaiming himself to be God.
Now verse 9 is very interesting, it says and even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan, with all power and signs and lying wonders.
Who is this even him?
Rev 19:20 (20) And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.
This even him, which does lying wonders, is referring to the false prophet, and both the false prophet and the Antichrist, will get cast into the lake of fire, at Christ's second, so they will be the first to be cast into the lake of fire, but the rest will be cast into the lake of fire, only when the 1000 year reign has ended, and the great white throne judgment commences.
I find the phrase lying wonders very interesting.
And then verse 11 mentions God sending men who receive not the love of the truth, a strong delusion, that they should believe a lie, it says a lie singular here.
Now of course at this time and now, many lies are being, and will be, promoted, but there is one big lie that these people who are given to a deluded spirit, will receive, and what lie is this?
Rev 13:14-15 (14) And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live. (15) And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.
Notice that it says deceive them by the means of those miracles; these deceitful miracles used for deception, makes me think of lying wonders, and what will these miracles be used for? They will be used for , as a means to convince people to worship the beast and his image.
So the big lie that these people, who will be given over to a deluded spirit, will receive, is that they will worship the beast as God, so they will receive the beast as God.
They will receive the lie of the Antichrist being God.
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Post by John on Mar 19, 2019 9:24:19 GMT -5
It doesn't say in addition to him, but "even him." I think this is still speaking of the anti-Christ, not the false prophet.
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Post by Giller on Mar 19, 2019 9:47:49 GMT -5
It doesn't say in addition to him, but "even him." I think this is still speaking of the anti-Christ, not the false prophet.
Well I would disagree, and it even shows hints, with the miracles stuff. I think even him, is mentioning this, more in the form of like even the one, that will do lying wonders. 2Th 2:8-9 (8) And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming: (9) Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders, Christ will destroy the Antichrist (Wicked one), and even him, or even the one, that will do lying wonders, and Revelation clearly shows that Christ shall destroy both the false prophet, and the Antichrist at the second coming, it is comparing scriptures with scriptures, and it fits.
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Post by Giller on Mar 19, 2019 10:42:17 GMT -5
But nevertheless, even though there are many lies being promoted, one of the biggest lies, will be the Antichrist exalting himself as God in the temple, and many people will actually receive him as God, and worship him, they that get handed to a deluded spirit will receive the lie.
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Post by 4hizglory37 on Mar 19, 2019 23:55:27 GMT -5
2Th 2:8-12 (8) And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming: (9) Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders, (10) And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. (11) And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: (12) That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness. I believe of course that the Antichrist shall be revealed in who he is, when he marches into the temple, proclaiming himself to be God. Now verse 9 is very interesting, it says and even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan, with all power and signs and lying wonders. Who is this even him? Rev 19:20 (20) And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone. This even him, which does lying wonders, is referring to the false prophet, and both the false prophet and the Antichrist, will get cast into the lake of fire, at Christ's second, so they will be the first to be cast into the lake of fire, but the rest will be cast into the lake of fire, only when the 1000 year reign has ended, and the great white throne judgment commences. I find the phrase lying wonders very interesting. And then verse 11 mentions God sending men who receive not the love of the truth, a strong delusion, that they should believe a lie, it says a lie singular here. Now of course at this time and now, many lies are being, and will be, promoted, but there is one big lie that these people who are given to a deluded spirit, will receive, and what lie is this? Rev 13:14-15 (14) And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live. (15) And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed. Notice that it says deceive them by the means of those miracles; these deceitful miracles used for deception, makes me think of lying wonders, and what will these miracles be used for? They will be used for , as a means to convince people to worship the beast and his image. So the big lie that these people, who will be given over to a deluded spirit, will receive, is that they will worship the beast as God, so they will receive the beast as God. They will receive the lie of the Antichrist being God. Uh, ummm, I believe "Even him, whose COMING IS AFTER THE WORKING OF SATAN WITH ALL LYING SIGNS AND WONDERS" IS REFERRING TO JESUS. Revelation 13:5-10 King James Version (KJV) 5 And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months. 6 And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven. 7 And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations. 8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world. 9 If any man have an ear, let him hear. 10 He that leadeth into captivity shall go into captivity: he that killeth with the sword must be killed with the sword. Here is the patience and the faith of the saints. Revelation 19:20 King James Version (KJV) 20 And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone. We as believers are waiting for Whose Coming? Jesus..... Matthew 24:30
“And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.” Mark 13:2626 And then shall they see the Son of man coming in the clouds with great power and glory. Luke 21:27“And then shall they see the Son of man coming in a cloud with power and great glory.” Revelation 22:20“He which testifieth these things saith, Surely I come quickly. Amen. Even so, come, Lord Jesus.”
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