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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2019 6:34:03 GMT -5
I've been to Pentecostal churches, Apostolic churches, Baptist, and Presbyterian churches.
However, I testify that after seeking the Living God for myself and my faith being rewarded,
I've seen miracles like healing and casting out demons. God has done these things through me.
Maybe those Apostolics were right in some instances.
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Post by John on Mar 11, 2019 8:49:39 GMT -5
God is the same yesterday, today and forever. I absolutely believe the gifts of the Spirit are still in operation today.
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Post by Cletus on Mar 11, 2019 9:07:15 GMT -5
why would God not still move thru us in the gifts when the gifts are to edify the church? the teaching that the gifts are no longer used or exist is illogical, at best. the saying... the gifts arent needed... is a cop-out to a whole lot of scripture.
would God send us a Helper and then not help us?
I have seen 7 of the 9 gifts thru me.
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Post by 2fw8212a on Mar 11, 2019 10:39:00 GMT -5
Do the miracles of the Apostolic age happen today? Yes.
"...If you can believe, all things are possible to him who believes." - Mark 9:23
"Jesus Christ is the same yesterday, today, and forever." - Hebrews 13:8
"For the gifts and the calling of God are irrevocable." - Romans 11:29
"Pursue love, and desire spiritual gifts..." - 1 Corinthians 14:1
But it takes faith.
"But without faith it is impossible to please Him, for he who comes to God must believe that He is, and that He is a rewarder of those who diligently seek Him." - Hebrews 11:6
"...Why could we not cast it out? So Jesus said to them, Because of your unbelief..." - Matthew 17:19-20
"...O faithless generation, how long shall I be with you? How long shall I bear with you? Bring him to Me." - Mark 9:19
It takes faith and practice to grow in spiritual gifts.
I believe this is one of the reasons so few people are willing to pursue them (and practice them).
They will face failure, mistakes, persecution, unbelief, people that will discourage them. The learning curve is thorny.
"Most assuredly, I say to you, he who believes in Me, the works that I do he will do also; and greater works than these he will do, because I go to My Father." - John 14:12
But as it is with most things, you have to start from the ground to the top.
And humbleness, faithfulness and love is key to growth.
Blessings!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2019 14:09:51 GMT -5
why would God not still move thru us in the gifts when the gifts are to edify the church? the teaching that the gifts are no longer used or exist is illogical, at best. the saying... the gifts arent needed... is a cop-out to a whole lot of scripture. would God send us a Helper and then not help us? I have seen 7 of the 9 gifts thru me. As lazy as this sounds, would you mind listing them for me?
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Post by Cletus on Mar 11, 2019 16:50:38 GMT -5
why would God not still move thru us in the gifts when the gifts are to edify the church? the teaching that the gifts are no longer used or exist is illogical, at best. the saying... the gifts arent needed... is a cop-out to a whole lot of scripture. would God send us a Helper and then not help us? I have seen 7 of the 9 gifts thru me. As lazy as this sounds, would you mind listing them for me? Word of wisdom, Word of knowledge, Gift of faith, Gift of healings, working of miracles, prophecy, discerning of spirits, tongues, interpretation of tongues.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2019 17:53:21 GMT -5
As lazy as this sounds, would you mind listing them for me? Word of wisdom, Word of knowledge, Gift of faith, Gift of healings, working of miracles, prophecy, discerning of spirits, tongues, interpretation of tongues. What's the difference between Word of knowledge and Word of Wisdom? Each time I get a "psychotic" break I experience a lot if not all of these very intensely.
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Post by Cletus on Mar 11, 2019 19:28:15 GMT -5
Word of wisdom, Word of knowledge, Gift of faith, Gift of healings, working of miracles, prophecy, discerning of spirits, tongues, interpretation of tongues. What's the difference between Word of knowledge and Word of Wisdom? Each time I get a "psychotic" break I experience a lot if not all of these very intensely. these two usually run together, meaning if one person has either they most likely will receive the other. not always tho.
word of wisdom is when the Holy Spirit puts in you a way to accomplish Gods will in a certain circumstance. its the wisdom to know what to do in a circumstance by The Holy Spirit. Kinda hard to give an example of this one other than definition.
word of knowledge is a knowing by the Holy Spirit. its insight or understanding of circumstances or knowing of facts by The Holy Spirit. a good example would be an interpretation of dreams or visions. but its not limited to that. it can be also like say i used to go to this church. a member there was a retired preacher from another church. He asked the preacher for a moment to speak, stood, and said God laid it on his heart a young person, a teenager, was running from God and God has been after them and they were not responding... there were some very specific details. the person who it was directed to knew it was them. basically its knowing something without any other way but The Holy Spirit putting this knowing in you.
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