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Post by Giller on Mar 13, 2019 21:49:47 GMT -5
Mar 8:15 (15) And he charged them, saying, Take heed, beware of the leaven of the Pharisees, and of the leaven of Herod.
I do not know if this was already covered, at Narrow Ways, but i was talking with a friend, and he mentioned how the leaven of the pharisees is mentioned often in some churches, but what about the leaven of Herod?
I found that to be very interesting.
What are your thoughts on the leaven of Herod?
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Post by frienduff on Mar 13, 2019 22:55:04 GMT -5
Giller you just throw those hands up and praise the Lord and then just keep on praising the Lord .
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Post by John on Mar 14, 2019 9:28:29 GMT -5
Mar 8:15 (15) And he charged them, saying, Take heed, beware of the leaven of the Pharisees, and of the leaven of Herod. I do not know if this was already covered, at Narrow Ways, but i was talking with a friend, and he mentioned how the leaven of the pharisees is mentioned often in some churches, but what about the leaven of Herod? I found that to be very interesting. What are your thoughts on the leaven of Herod? I admit that I have never noticed that. The whole thing behind leaven is how it spreads till all becomes leavened. With a sinful Christian, corruption spreads. With a false teacher, bad doctrine spreads. You would need to examine Herod to understand this warning.
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Post by 2fw8212a on Mar 14, 2019 10:20:06 GMT -5
What are your thoughts on the leaven of Herod? I believe the leaven of the Pharisees is hypocrisy.
"...Beware of the leaven of the Pharisees, which is hypocrisy." - Luke 12:1
"Therefore whatever they tell you to observe, that observe and do, but do not do according to their works; for they say, and do not do." - Matthew 23:3
And the leaven of Herod could be... Well, we know that Herod's heart was hardened towards the truth:
"for Herod feared John, knowing that he was a just and holy man, and he protected him. And when he heard him, he did many things, and heard him gladly." - Mark 6:20
We can notice some lukewarmness there...
"He who is not with Me is against Me, and he who does not gather with Me scatters abroad." - Matthew 12:30
Herod heard John gladly and was afraid of killing him, but when it was confronted with truth, he always resisted:
"For Herod himself had sent and laid hold of John, and bound him in prison for the sake of Herodias, his brother Philip’s wife; for he had married her. Because John had said to Herod, “It is not lawful for you to have your brother’s wife.” - Mark 6:17-18
And when he was with no way out, he decided to kill/reject John (truth) to please the people:
"Then an opportune day came when Herod on his birthday gave a feast for his nobles, the high officers, and the chief men of Galilee. And when Herodias’ daughter herself came in and danced, and pleased Herod and those who sat with him, the king said to the girl, “Ask me whatever you want, and I will give it to you.”" - Mark 6:21-22
"Immediately she came in with haste to the king and asked, saying, “I want you to give me at once the head of John the Baptist on a platter.”" - Mark 6:25
"And the king was exceedingly sorry; yet, because of the oaths and because of those who sat with him, he did not want to refuse her." - Mark 6:26
Then, we must be careful of the leaven of Herod:
"No one can serve two masters; for either he will hate the one and love the other, or else he will be loyal to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve God and mammon." - Matthew 6:24
To whom are we being loyal to?! Who do we really love?! Our actions say a lot about it.
"Jesus answered and said to him, “If anyone loves Me, he will keep My word..." - John 14:23
"Do you not know that to whom you present yourselves slaves to obey, you are that one’s slaves whom you obey, whether of sin leading to death, or of obedience leading to righteousness?" - Romans 6:16
"You are My friends if you do whatever I command you." - John 15:14
Blessings in Jesus' name!
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Post by frienduff on Mar 14, 2019 12:18:49 GMT -5
That's right , hands up letters and praise the Lord . In fact let all praise the LORD . OH let us learn of HIM and rejoice in HIM and endure faithful to the end . Their is no joy like the JOY of the LORD and His salvation found ONLY in CHRIST . I want us to read this last sentence again. Their is no joy LIKE the Joy of the LORD and HIS salvation found ONLY in CHRIST . See that last part , where I said FOUND ONLY in Christ . Yall would be sad to hear that this aint the mindset of the majority of even so called Christians anymore . They falling for THE LIE that all paths are find and good . This is no ordinary delusion , ITS THE ONE LEADING ALL right to death , right to the lie , the beast , the ac and unto the day of armegeddon . Let us all stand firm ON the pure foundation and let no man be swayed by inclusion . For even in romans it say they must believe from the heart , and confess with the mouth , JESUS AS LORD and SAVOIR . AS THE CHRIST . For the spirit of anti Christ denies JESUS as THE CHRIST , the SAVOIR and does so very sneakily with inclusvism . What a lie from hell but it has worked on many and keeps getting worse . STAND FIRM IN THE LORD and CONTEND for the true faith those early ones FIRST TAUGHT .
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Post by Giller on Mar 14, 2019 13:03:27 GMT -5
I really like what 2fw8212a said, but another thing I think about is on one hand the leaven of the pharisees, makes me think of false religious teachers, spreading their false doctrines, but concern the leaven of Herod, it makes me think of the government side of things, how they spread their doctrines to the people, how they spread (especially the left) their doctrines of how it is ok to be homosexual, how abortion is ok, and so forth.
Mat 16:11-12 (11) How is it that ye do not understand that I spake it not to you concerning bread, that ye should beware of the leaven of the Pharisees and of the Sadducees? (12) Then understood they how that he bade them not beware of the leaven of bread, but of the doctrine of the Pharisees and of the Sadducees.
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Post by John on Mar 14, 2019 13:48:31 GMT -5
I really like what 2fw8212a said, but another thing I think about is on one hand the leaven of the pharisees, makes me think of false religious teachers, spreading their false doctrines, but concern the leaven of Herod, it makes me think of the government side of things, how they spread their doctrines to the people, how they spread (especially the left) their doctrines of how it is ok to be homosexual, how abortion is ok, and so forth. Mat 16:11-12 (11) How is it that ye do not understand that I spake it not to you concerning bread, that ye should beware of the leaven of the Pharisees and of the Sadducees? (12) Then understood they how that he bade them not beware of the leaven of bread, but of the doctrine of the Pharisees and of the Sadducees. That is a really good observation.
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Post by frienduff on Mar 14, 2019 15:26:34 GMT -5
I want every man and woman to pray about this . But do we remember where JESUS said concerning the great deception that must occur right near the end . Where he said , Many will come n My name saying I am Christ , and deceive many . What if that means simply this , MANY will come in my name , claiming I AM CHRIST , YET they deceive many . IN other words , they come in his name , even admit He is the Christ , YET they deceivers . Whatever this means for sure and for certain , we better know this . I BELEIVE this warning was to tell us the very things paul and others would expound on later . And it ties into the great falling away . What was pauls major concern, even jude , even CHRIST , THAT DECIEVERS would come in FROM WITHIN ,YET they are nothing but deicevers , deceiving . I truly believe the summation of what they all spoke of could sound just like what I say next . Beware , for when you see the massive amount of chrisanity , its leaders coming in His name , YET TOTALLY DECIVED and DECIEVING , then know the END IS NEAR . I mean I often wondered , why on earth JESUS put it like this and of course we also know to fall away ,means christains who are no longer truly following Christ but fell away from , HIS sayings HIS DOCTRINE . NOW PAUL echoed this . And so did others . I believe the main deception , COMES FROM WITHIN and alas IT HAS if we look around . WHO the ones LEADING in the all inclusive . I mean the world does and the false religions do , BUT WHO LED IT . ROME and others . Beware for many shall come in MY NAME , that cant be a muslim , that cant be a buddist , it cant be hushi cushi , IT HAS TO BE one who claims JESUS yet DENIES THE TRUE JESUS and HIS sound doctrine . And folks , If this be true , THEN WE BETTER START LOOKING UP , cause its getting real late in this deception . What else do the nar , and many others preach , THEY are really expounding on some END TIME HUGE REVIVAL . THE ONLY PROBLEM is , THEIR IS NO MENTION of it , IN fact the only mention I read about concering near the end , IS A HUGE FALLNG AWAY . We better all be on heavy guard and follow ONLY CHRIST and feast on our bibles .
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Post by frienduff on Mar 14, 2019 15:45:44 GMT -5
Giller as I have said before , so say I now again , it don't matter what Rome says about ya or would say , You loved .
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