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Post by John on Mar 25, 2019 11:02:27 GMT -5
Here is a video to look at, concerning, the alternative area of the real temple mount: That video certainly makes a strong case for the original temples being in the city of David. Ultimately, I believe they will get the location right.
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Post by Giller on Mar 25, 2019 11:52:03 GMT -5
Ya it seems that many are being told traditions of were this or that may be, which may not be the truth, and this is one of those examples, were the bible was used to point to the right place.
Another tradition that is said is that many say that mount Sinai is in Egypt, yet in the bible God led them out of Egypt, and to cross the red sea, but there is other evidence that shows that mount Sinai is in Saudi Arabia.
And there actually may be a reason why Egypt is chosen for the traditional site.
I know that Roman Catholicism, tends to support the corrupt bible manuscripts that came from Egypt (Alexandria Egypt), so could this Egyptian mount Sinai be used as to point to the place God gave his commandments, and to point to a place were wisdom comes from (wisdom coming from Egypt)?
We know in the bible, that they came out of Egypt and crossed the red sea.
And here is a good video on this:
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Post by Cletus on Mar 25, 2019 19:43:12 GMT -5
the corner stones are cut, they cut them with diamonds. i saw them. they are huge. 6 or 7 tons each. the menorah is made. the altar has already had offerings made upon it. they are ready to build... just one building in the way. Cletus did you see these pictures of these cut stones, or did you actually see them in real life? i saw it in a video. they were displaying all the things that have been prepared. its on youtube. i have watched quite a few videos on this subject so it may take me awhile to find it. i am kinda busy this time of year so if i dont post it and you dont find it pm me and remind me... i have a lot on my plate right now.
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Post by Cletus on Mar 25, 2019 19:58:32 GMT -5
the corner stones are cut, they cut them with diamonds. i saw them. they are huge. 6 or 7 tons each. the menorah is made. the altar has already had offerings made upon it. they are ready to build... just one building in the way. Thanks for sharing this Cletus, and I know that many say that the mosque on what is called the temple mount has to be destroyed in order for the temple to be rebuilt, but some people who did some investigation into this matter, through following what the bible says, have discovered that were the dome of the rock is, is not actually were the ancient Jewish temple stood. And we have to remember that Jesus says in the bible that not one stone would be left on another, yet were the temple mount site is, as it is called, there is the western wall or wailing wall that still stands, but Jesus said not one stone would be left on another. And through investigation, they have found out that the western wall was really part of a Roman fort called fort Antonia, and these same people have found another different site, to were every stone has not been left upon another, no evidence of any wall standing but just total destruction, and they found this site in the old city of Jerusalem, and it has a threshing floor, which in the bible it mentions David purchasing this place with a threshing floor, which is were the biblical temple was actually built, and it shows nearby water canals, which is were they would have done some of the water cleansing ceremonies God would of have them do. God began showing me things years back concerning Mt. Moriah. since i have done my own research. i do not trust these new investigations. and i base this on scripture. I know you dont really like going on the other forum much anymore, but i have written a lot of this on there... and I picked Georges brain as much as i could and he has lived over there for awhile. pretty much everything he said about landscape layout is what God showed me in scripture. I do not think God is done showing me things on this yet either. the picture isnt complete yet.
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Post by Sister on Mar 25, 2019 20:16:37 GMT -5
Ya it seems that many are being told traditions of were this or that may be, which may not be the truth, and this is one of those examples, were the bible was used to point to the right place. Another tradition that is said is that many say that mount Sinai is in Egypt, yet in the bible God led them out of Egypt, and to cross the red sea, but there is other evidence that shows that mount Sinai is in Saudi Arabia. And there actually may be a reason why Egypt is chosen for the traditional site. I know that Roman Catholicism, tends to support the corrupt bible manuscripts that came from Egypt (Alexandria Egypt), so could this Egyptian mount Sinai be used as to point to the place God gave his commandments, and to point to a place were wisdom comes from (wisdom coming from Egypt)? We know in the bible, that they came out of Egypt and crossed the red sea. And here is a good video on this:
Hi Giller
Without even watching the video, God already confirmed where Mt Sinai is for us
Galatians 4:25 For this Agar is mount Sinai in Arabia, and answereth to Jerusalem which now is, and is in bondage with her children.
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Post by Sister on Mar 25, 2019 20:44:53 GMT -5
the corner stones are cut, they cut them with diamonds. i saw them. they are huge. 6 or 7 tons each. the menorah is made. the altar has already had offerings made upon it. they are ready to build... just one building in the way. Thanks for sharing this Cletus, and I know that many say that the mosque on what is called the temple mount has to be destroyed in order for the temple to be rebuilt, but some people who did some investigation into this matter, through following what the bible says, have discovered that were the dome of the rock is, is not actually were the ancient Jewish temple stood. And we have to remember that Jesus says in the bible that not one stone would be left on another, yet were the temple mount site is, as it is called, there is the western wall or wailing wall that still stands, but Jesus said not one stone would be left on another. And through investigation, they have found out that the western wall was really part of a Roman fort called fort Antonia, and these same people have found another different site, to were every stone has not been left upon another, no evidence of any wall standing but just total destruction, and they found this site in the old city of Jerusalem, and it has a threshing floor, which in the bible it mentions David purchasing this place with a threshing floor, which is were the biblical temple was actually built, and it shows nearby water canals, which is were they would have done some of the water cleansing ceremonies God would of have them do. Genesis 22:2 And he said, Take now thy son, thine only son Isaac, whom thou lovest, and get thee into the land of Moriah; and offer him there for a burnt offering upon one of the mountains which I will tell thee of.
Islam built the Dome of the Rock on the place where Isaac offered up his son. They claimed this for themselves and further polluted this once holy ground. All the Jews have left is the wall, as a reminder of what happened there, but the temple is completely gone. Not one stone remains.
I think that God allowed Islam to build their temple there to make it harder for the Jews to rebuild their own. It all has to be in God's timing. The Islamic nations (The Mede's/kings of the east) are going to stand up to the FP's kingdom before the coming at the 6th trumpet/seal. They are full of rage, and I think it's because their dome gets destroyed and the new temple built on that very same plot.
This new temple is not the Lord's temple, as Christ stated that he does not dwell in temples made with stone. This should be clearly understood that no physical temple to come on that plot is of the Lord. The false prophet will sit in God's temple meaning in his place, in the hearts of men, because they will be serving him. He becomes their master in that same place where the Lord should be...in their hearts, ...that temple.
2 Chronicles 3:1 Then Solomon began to build the house of the LORD at Jerusalem in mount Moriah, where the LORD appeared unto David his father, in the place that David had prepared in the threshingfloor of Ornan the Jebusite.
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Post by John on Mar 26, 2019 10:08:10 GMT -5
It appears to me that there will be a physical temple, and the anti-Christ will enter that physical building and desecrate it and proclaim himself to be God. This is event. He will have already been in the hearts of the people from the time of the peace treaty. This event will cause many to abandon him.
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Post by Giller on Mar 26, 2019 10:13:27 GMT -5
And I totally agree there will be a physical temple, but the Antichrist cannot be in the hearts of men, for he is a man, now the spirit of Antichrist sure can be in the hearts of men though.
God will give people over to a deluding spirit so they believe the lie, and some will worship the Antichrist when he presents himself as God in the temple of God, but for others, their eyes will be opened at this time, and they will not worship the Antichrist.
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Post by John on Mar 26, 2019 10:34:36 GMT -5
And I totally agree there will be a physical temple, but the Antichrist cannot be in the hearts of men, for he is a man, now the spirit of Antichrist sure can be in the hearts of men though. God will give people over to a deluding spirit so they believe the lie, and some will worship the Antichrist when he presents himself as God in the temple of God, but for others, their eyes will be opened at this time, and they will not worship the Antichrist. I agree. I meant in their hearts in the sense of being loyal to him and believing in him.
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Post by Giller on Mar 26, 2019 11:06:53 GMT -5
Ya it seems that many are being told traditions of were this or that may be, which may not be the truth, and this is one of those examples, were the bible was used to point to the right place. Another tradition that is said is that many say that mount Sinai is in Egypt, yet in the bible God led them out of Egypt, and to cross the red sea, but there is other evidence that shows that mount Sinai is in Saudi Arabia. And there actually may be a reason why Egypt is chosen for the traditional site. I know that Roman Catholicism, tends to support the corrupt bible manuscripts that came from Egypt (Alexandria Egypt), so could this Egyptian mount Sinai be used as to point to the place God gave his commandments, and to point to a place were wisdom comes from (wisdom coming from Egypt)? We know in the bible, that they came out of Egypt and crossed the red sea. And here is a good video on this:
Hi Giller
Without even watching the video, God already confirmed where Mt Sinai is for us
Galatians 4:25 For this Agar is mount Sinai in Arabia, and answereth to Jerusalem which now is, and is in bondage with her children.
Praise God for scripture, and what this video is showing is that mount Sinai is in Saudi Arabia, which is in Arabia. And they used the bible to find mount Sinai.
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Post by Sister on Mar 26, 2019 19:26:06 GMT -5
Who is going to build that temple of abomination? ...or give the order?
Daniel 11:36 And the king shall do according to his will; and he shall exalt himself, and magnify himself above every god, and shall speak marvellous things against the God of gods, and shall prosper till the indignation be accomplished: for that that is determined shall be done.
Daniel 11:37 Neither shall he regard the God of his fathers, nor the desire of women, nor regard any god: for he shall magnify himself above all.
Daniel 11:38 But in his estate shall he honour the God of forces: and a god whom his fathers knew not shall he honour with gold, and silver, and with precious stones, and pleasant things.
Daniel 11:39 Thus shall he do in the most strong holds with a strange god, whom he shall acknowledge and increase with glory: and he shall cause them to rule over many, and shall divide the land for gain.
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Daniel 11:45 And he shall plant the tabernacles of his palace between the seas in the glorious holy mountain; yet he shall come to his end, and none shall help him.
he = False Prophet
between the seas = between the "Mediterranean sea" and the "Dead Sea" = Jerusalem. the glorious holy mountain = kingdom of God.
He, the false prophet will plant the tabernacles (tents) of "his palace" (his temple) in Jerusalem physically. Jerusalem is not God's holy mountain now, but the kingdom of God is. Spiritually he is taking God's place in the hearts of men, in God's holy mountain for men will be serving him and not God.
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Post by Cletus on Mar 26, 2019 21:46:57 GMT -5
the corner stones are cut, they cut them with diamonds. i saw them. they are huge. 6 or 7 tons each. the menorah is made. the altar has already had offerings made upon it. they are ready to build... just one building in the way. Cletus did you see these pictures of these cut stones, or did you actually see them in real life? this is not the video i spoke of... but it should suffice.
I am working on getting scripture together also. Hang tight.
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Post by Sister on Mar 27, 2019 1:56:41 GMT -5
That video wouldn't work on here Cletus, but I found it on the net.
This guy doesn't realise that Christ is the cornerstone and that we come to God through him only, in spirit and in truth through the Word of God, and not through anything that is made with man's hands. This man doesn't accept Christ or the New Testament, so he doesn't know all the pains and sorrows which is to come after this temple is constructed, but is left in the dark, grasping at straws.
Luke 3:8 Bring forth therefore fruits worthy of repentance, and begin not to say within yourselves, We have Abraham to our father: for I say unto you, That God is able of these stones to raise up children unto Abraham.
God didn't raise up children unto Abraham from those stones, but he is able if he wanted to. And what did God do? He raised up children unto Abraham from the gentiles, which were not connected to the Jews.
1 Peter 2:6 Wherefore also it is contained in the scripture, Behold, I lay in Sion a chief corner stone, elect, precious: and he that believeth on him shall not be confounded.
1 Peter 2:7 Unto you therefore which believe he is precious: but unto them which be disobedient, the stone which the builders disallowed, the same is made the head of the corner,
1 Peter 2:8 And a stone of stumbling, and a rock of offence, even to them which stumble at the word, being disobedient: whereunto also they were appointed.
1 Peter 2:9 But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light:
1 Peter 2:10 Which in time past were not a people, but are now the people of God: which had not obtained mercy, but now have obtained mercy.
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Post by Giller on Mar 27, 2019 9:24:46 GMT -5
Who is going to build that temple of abomination? ...or give the order?
Daniel 11:36 And the king shall do according to his will; and he shall exalt himself, and magnify himself above every god, and shall speak marvellous things against the God of gods, and shall prosper till the indignation be accomplished: for that that is determined shall be done.
Daniel 11:37 Neither shall he regard the God of his fathers, nor the desire of women, nor regard any god: for he shall magnify himself above all.
Daniel 11:38 But in his estate shall he honour the God of forces: and a god whom his fathers knew not shall he honour with gold, and silver, and with precious stones, and pleasant things.
Daniel 11:39 Thus shall he do in the most strong holds with a strange god, whom he shall acknowledge and increase with glory: and he shall cause them to rule over many, and shall divide the land for gain.
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Daniel 11:45 And he shall plant the tabernacles of his palace between the seas in the glorious holy mountain; yet he shall come to his end, and none shall help him.
he = False Prophet
between the seas = between the "Mediterranean sea" and the "Dead Sea" = Jerusalem. the glorious holy mountain = kingdom of God.
He, the false prophet will plant the tabernacles (tents) of "his palace" (his temple) in Jerusalem physically. Jerusalem is not God's holy mountain now, but the kingdom of God is. Spiritually he is taking God's place in the hearts of men, in God's holy mountain for men will be serving him and not God.
There are many interpretations concerning the tabernacles of his palace, and any how this happens near the end of the tribulation period, which i am talking about Daniel 11:45. And some say that the tabernacles or tents of his palace, is the Antichrist setting up as his main headquarters in God's glorious mountain, which some say is Jerusalem, and others say that he sets up his residence or palace in the temple, and there are others who say that he makes Jerusalem as his military base and others say something else. To me it shows nothing about the Antichrist building the temple here, and besides this, this verse 45, takes place near the end of the tribulation period, but it is at the mid point of the tribulation that the Antichrist marches in the already built temple.
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Post by Giller on Mar 27, 2019 9:26:31 GMT -5
That video wouldn't work on here Cletus, but I found it on the net.
This guy doesn't realise that Christ is the cornerstone and that we come to God through him only, in spirit and in truth through the Word of God, and not through anything that is made with man's hands. This man doesn't accept Christ or the New Testament, so he doesn't know all the pains and sorrows which is to come after this temple is constructed, but is left in the dark, grasping at straws.
Luke 3:8 Bring forth therefore fruits worthy of repentance, and begin not to say within yourselves, We have Abraham to our father: for I say unto you, That God is able of these stones to raise up children unto Abraham.
God didn't raise up children unto Abraham from those stones, but he is able if he wanted to. And what did God do? He raised up children unto Abraham from the gentiles, which were not connected to the Jews.
1 Peter 2:6 Wherefore also it is contained in the scripture, Behold, I lay in Sion a chief corner stone, elect, precious: and he that believeth on him shall not be confounded.
1 Peter 2:7 Unto you therefore which believe he is precious: but unto them which be disobedient, the stone which the builders disallowed, the same is made the head of the corner,
1 Peter 2:8 And a stone of stumbling, and a rock of offence, even to them which stumble at the word, being disobedient: whereunto also they were appointed.
1 Peter 2:9 But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light:
1 Peter 2:10 Which in time past were not a people, but are now the people of God: which had not obtained mercy, but now have obtained mercy.
Yes it is true Sister that Christ is the true cornerstone and that we are the temple of the Holy Ghost, but just because that is so, does not mean they will not build another physical temple, which is called the temple of God, which the Antichrist will march in, and declare himself as God, and have his image set up there. Mat 24:15 (15) When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:)
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