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Apr 17, 2019 9:57:20 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2019 9:57:20 GMT -5
A room in the Father's house (kingdom) is neither here nor there, it's simply just a room....it's what is in the room that matters. As long as the room doesn't become elevated into an entity in itself then it provides no venue for cultishness, or institutionalization, or 'denominational' pride, etc. Insult and innuendo is not helpful...if the OP had come here in good faith and had any valid concerns she would have addressed them.
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Apr 17, 2019 10:11:55 GMT -5
Post by John on Apr 17, 2019 10:11:55 GMT -5
A room in the Father's house (kingdom) is neither here nor there, it's simply just a room....it's what is in the room that matters. As long as the room doesn't become elevated into an entity in itself then it provides no venue for cultishness, or institutionalization, or 'denominational' pride, etc. Insult and innuendo is not helpful...if the OP had come here in good faith and had any valid concerns she would have addressed them. I am not sure of the purpose of the OP. What is there to consider on a charge of being strange? This is a diverse group of individuals, and comments like that are not useful in any way. I don't know for sure who 123 is, but if they have legitimate concerns about anything specific, they certainly can share them. If this person would keep an open mind, they might even find the Bible discussions interesting and consider joining and participating. Our basic beliefs are available for 123 to read. If he or she disagrees with them, we can have that discussion.
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Post by solid on Apr 17, 2019 11:15:15 GMT -5
A room in the Father's house (kingdom) is neither here nor there, it's simply just a room....it's what is in the room that matters. As long as the room doesn't become elevated into an entity in itself then it provides no venue for cultishness, or institutionalization, or 'denominational' pride, etc. Insult and innuendo is not helpful...if the OP had come here in good faith and had any valid concerns she would have addressed them. I am not sure of the purpose of the OP. What is there to consider on a charge of being strange? This is a diverse group of individuals, and comments like that are not useful in any way. I don't know for sure who 123 is, but if they have legitimate concerns about anything specific, they certainly can share them. If this person would keep an open mind, they might even find the Bible discussions interesting and consider joining and participating. Our basic beliefs are available for 123 to read. If he or she disagrees with them, we can have that discussion.
I know there are strange teachings at Worthy, and a lot of differences of beliefs. I noticed one member saying Paul doesn't agree with Peter.
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Post by solid on Apr 17, 2019 11:16:13 GMT -5
I knew there was a lot of bad teaching there, but I didn't know all that was going on! I don't know how long you have been there, but I was a member from 2004 till last year, and I can tell you all kinds of stories that are 100 percent true concerning how they have done members bad, but there is no reason to. Had 123 not said what he did, I wouldn't have even mentioned what I did. If you want to know anything else, you can ask me in a pm.
Thanks.
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Post by frienduff on Apr 17, 2019 16:49:22 GMT -5
I am not sure of the purpose of the OP. What is there to consider on a charge of being strange? This is a diverse group of individuals, and comments like that are not useful in any way. I don't know for sure who 123 is, but if they have legitimate concerns about anything specific, they certainly can share them. If this person would keep an open mind, they might even find the Bible discussions interesting and consider joining and participating. Our basic beliefs are available for 123 to read. If he or she disagrees with them, we can have that discussion.
I know there are strange teachings at Worthy, and a lot of differences of beliefs. I noticed one member saying Paul doesn't agree with Peter. Yes , I seen that too .
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Post by John on Apr 17, 2019 21:21:15 GMT -5
I know there are strange teachings at Worthy, and a lot of differences of beliefs. I noticed one member saying Paul doesn't agree with Peter. Yes , I seen that too . It is amazing the things people will teach to make the Bible say what they want it to. Pitting Peter against Paul? Did any of the moderators say anything about it, or do they just let it go unchallenged?
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Post by ladypeartree on Apr 18, 2019 2:18:03 GMT -5
\0/\0/\0/\0/ I am so happy that the folk here ( and I am very happy to be regarded as one ) are NOT like the common herd and are looked at as something different and strange \o/\o/\o/\o/ I am strangely in love with my Lord and saviour \o/ I am a stranger in this world \o/ \o/ THANK YOU LORD
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Post by PG4Him on Apr 18, 2019 6:42:17 GMT -5
It is amazing the things people will teach to make the Bible say what they want it to. Pitting Peter against Paul? Did any of the moderators say anything about it, or do they just let it go unchallenged?
I’ve come across many Christians who think Paul didn’t write any Scripture.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2019 6:55:54 GMT -5
A room in the Father's house (kingdom) is neither here nor there, it's simply just a room....it's what is in the room that matters. As long as the room doesn't become elevated into an entity in itself then it provides no venue for cultishness, or institutionalization, or 'denominational' pride, etc. Insult and innuendo is not helpful...if the OP had come here in good faith and had any valid concerns she would have addressed them. I am not sure of the purpose of the OP. What is there to consider on a charge of being strange? This is a diverse group of individuals, and comments like that are not useful in any way. I don't know for sure who 123 is, but if they have legitimate concerns about anything specific, they certainly can share them. If this person would keep an open mind, they might even find the Bible discussions interesting and consider joining and participating. Our basic beliefs are available for 123 to read. If he or she disagrees with them, we can have that discussion.
I'm guessing they are from Worthy. Too bad they wont' stay long enough to stand behind their comments, because it would be a good topic to discuss in general, for edification to help us avoid those kinds of pitfalls. I find the Lord often opens things up as we talk about them, not for anyone to win an argument but just to instruct us overall.
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Post by John on Apr 18, 2019 6:58:53 GMT -5
It is amazing the things people will teach to make the Bible say what they want it to. Pitting Peter against Paul? Did any of the moderators say anything about it, or do they just let it go unchallenged?
I’ve come across many Christians who think Paul didn’t write any Scripture. It all depends on your belief system. Some deny the books Paul wrote while others claim books written by James and Peter are only to the Jews, as though there are two different sets of rules for gentile Christians as opposed to Jewish Christians. Either the Bible is God's Word or it is not!
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Post by John on Apr 18, 2019 7:02:34 GMT -5
I am not sure of the purpose of the OP. What is there to consider on a charge of being strange? This is a diverse group of individuals, and comments like that are not useful in any way. I don't know for sure who 123 is, but if they have legitimate concerns about anything specific, they certainly can share them. If this person would keep an open mind, they might even find the Bible discussions interesting and consider joining and participating. Our basic beliefs are available for 123 to read. If he or she disagrees with them, we can have that discussion.
I'm guessing they are from Worthy. Too bad they wont' stay long enough to stand behind their comments, because it would be a good topic to discuss in general, for edification to help us avoid those kinds of pitfalls. I find the Lord often opens things up as we talk about them, not for anyone to win an argument but just to instruct us overall. I would be more than happy to discuss this person's concerns with them if they were interested in an actual conversation. It comes across like they are upset that some they tried to silence still have a voice. It is like I am supposed to be concerned that outsiders don't approve, and change things to make us more popular by becoming more mainstream. I am not seeking men's approval.
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Post by PG4Him on Apr 18, 2019 7:06:34 GMT -5
Yeah let’s act more like the world; that always works out well for Christians
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2019 9:35:43 GMT -5
Anyone has any doubts about Paul they can feel free to test him....the Bereans did and were approved for doing so. Everything Paul wrote lines up with all the rest of scripture. And Peter himself affirms Paul's writings as well.
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Post by frienduff on Apr 18, 2019 12:45:33 GMT -5
I’ve come across many Christians who think Paul didn’t write any Scripture. It all depends on your belief system. Some deny the books Paul wrote while others claim books written by James and Peter are only to the Jews, as though there are two different sets of rules for gentile Christians as opposed to Jewish Christians. Either the Bible is God's Word or it is not!
Yes , many say many things . And their is always a WHY behind why men say or teach such things . Example . The ones who say James was speaking to jews only , SAY so cause James preached WORKS with Faith . Yet they miss how often paul did too . Their is no contradiction in anything those men wrote , and their is no contradicting one another in anything they wrote . The question is , WHY do men try and make this so . And the answer to that question is a four letter word , SELF . And it was and is the WHY behind the WHY people choose what they would rather heed , believe and do . YET a lamb has the love of truth engrained on their heart , BY the grace of GOD . SO what is he or she going to LOVE , TRUTH . And all those letters were not written to jewish snynagogues , BUT TO CHRISTAINS . Me thinks folks forget that . And while points may have been made to jews , those same points , ARE GOOD for us all . SEE the apostels preached JESUS and HIM crucified . THEY taught truth and truth is for all believers . Don't matter who the target audience Is , THE TRUTH they spoke is good for ALL THE CHURCH . And it was written to BELIEVERS .
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Post by frienduff on Apr 18, 2019 12:51:02 GMT -5
Yeah let’s act more like the world; that always works out well for Christians Exactly , sister , exactly . But here is an idea , WHY Don't we by the SPIRIT act , teach , exhort or DO as did our LORD , or as those apostels , or as THEY said to do . That be like the world mumbo jumbo that most taught years back , ITS all part of the reason WE GOT FULLY GROWN deceived churches now . ANd its why they cant save any , let alone their own selves . I got an idea , WHY cant we trust CHRIST who simply said ,I WILL give you words , the SPIRIT will give you words , MY FATHER will give you a mouth . Man always tries to improve upon , take from or add too , WHAT cant be improved nor should it be taken from or added too . GOD SPOKE THEM WORDS why we going to change that pattern . I mean , JESUS wasn't just some or another religious guru , or some man who may have just had some knowledge . HERE is who JESUS IS , BEFORE ABRAHAM WAS I AM . YEP so we ought not change THAT PATTERN , if so its unto our own destruction .
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