Maybe we can test by other spiritual gifts as well, though I'm not sure...eg, word of knowledge, word of wisdom, prophecy, possibly....though these would also get tested.
Nothing destroys your nice comfortable man-made doctrine like a supernatural touch from God. Look at how Paul’s life changed when Jesus appeared to him. These signs edify us by showing us spiritual principles in the word. Once you speak in tongues you see Acts a different way.
But avoid foolish questions, and genealogies, and contentions, and strivings about the law; for they are unprofitable and vain.
And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers; For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ: Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ — Ephesians 4:11-13
Paul didn’t say a teacher could advance to prophet if he had more faith. Gifts are appointed for service to meet the needs of the church, and God can use a donkey to correct a prophet.
I do understand what Letters is saying, and to a great extent he’s right. But I don’t believe we can achieve the office of prophet by making sure we have enough faith.
Mat 17:20 And Jesus said unto them, Because of your unbelief: for verily I say unto you, If ye have faith as a grain of mustard seed, ye shall say unto this mountain, Remove hence to yonder place; and it shall remove; and nothing shall be impossible unto you.
is not just "i believe in.."
look at what He says...say to a mountain remove hence to yonder place. (and it shall remove)
this kind of faith is one of the gifts... the gift of faith. and miracles and healing usually run with this gift also in a believer.
I have experienced this faith. and spiritually it is tangible. this same faith is how it came to pass when it was said... let there be light, and there was light. When i experienced it I was not allowed to speak freely, and I had a knowing in me that i could mess up some stuff... Gods order. God was just showing me this to show me how great and awesome He Is. This kind of faith is an anointing, and really its a fullness of Gods Spirit in you.
Hos 6:6 For I desired mercy, and not sacrifice; and the knowledge of God more than burnt offerings.
No one in the Body of Christ has all spiritual gifts...
"Because of your unbelief..." - Matthew 17:20
Now there are diversities of gifts, but the same Spirit.
And there are differences of administrations, but the same Lord.
And there are diversities of operations, but it is the same God which worketh all in all.
But the manifestation of the Spirit is given to every man to profit withal.
For to one is given by the Spirit the word of wisdom; to another the word of knowledge by the same Spirit;
To another faith by the same Spirit; to another the gifts of healing by the same Spirit;
To another the working of miracles; to another prophecy; to another discerning of spirits; to another divers kinds of tongues; to another the interpretation of tongues:
But all these worketh that one and the selfsame Spirit, dividing to every man severally as he will.
For as the body is one, and hath many members, and all the members of that one body, being many, are one body: so also is Christ.
1 Cor 12:29-30
Are all apostles? are all prophets? are all teachers? are all workers of miracles?
Have all the gifts of healing? do all speak with tongues? do all interpret?
Clearly by these scriptures the Lord does not apportion every gift to every man. Brother I don’t know what is being misunderstood between us…I am not in any way arguing against or minimizing the necessity of faith....this is all about faith and how faith is of the Spirit. I am going to just leave the discussion here, since it is upsetting to you, and I am tired today in any case. Bless you.
Gifts are apportioned by measure. There is no pre-set limit on how many gifts one person may have. Any individual may operate in one gift or a few gifts or all gifts. I don’t know how Paul could have discipled men in all the gifts if he didn’t operate in all of them himself. How could he oversee prophets if he never prophesied? It’s extraordinary to find a man who operates in all of them, but they are out there.
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