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Post by joseph on Apr 30, 2019 12:48:42 GMT -5
And another area of interpretation we have to be careful in, is in the area of seeking to interpret a scripture the way we think we see it, rather than doing what God says to do, which is to compare scriptures with scriptures. We need to seek God's heart on the matter and seek to see things his way, and not our way. I think the religious teachers who opposed Jesus also compared Scripture with Scripture, as also do the catholics who oppose Jesus, and they come up with very very weird doctrines opposed to Yahuweh's Word, Plan and Purpose - entirely anti-truth, <as if> from truth; as if from Scripture.
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Post by Giller on Apr 30, 2019 12:53:04 GMT -5
And another area of interpretation we have to be careful in, is in the area of seeking to interpret a scripture the way we think we see it, rather than doing what God says to do, which is to compare scriptures with scriptures. We need to seek God's heart on the matter and seek to see things his way, and not our way. I think the religious teachers who opposed Jesus also compared Scripture with Scripture, as also do the catholics who oppose Jesus, and they come up with very very weird doctrines opposed to Yahuweh's Word, Plan and Purpose - entirely anti-truth, <as if> from truth; as if from Scripture. Well yes that is true as well, but no doubt we need the Holy Spirit to reveal the scriptures to us, and yet it is still scriptural to compare scriptures with scriptures, because the bible says to do so. And we need to do so in a careful and honest way.
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Post by Giller on Apr 30, 2019 13:04:19 GMT -5
There maybe certain times were you need to know a little bit about how they did things back then (only in certain cases), such as then it seemed they used wineskins, and if they used something else also I do not know, but today we mainly use bottles.
Some things were different in those days, than today, and let us not seek to modernize things that were a certain way back then, because we could be wrong in our assumption.
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Post by Giller on Apr 30, 2019 13:09:02 GMT -5
In fact I think there were truths that people used to see in the past, that many do not see today.
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Post by Giller on Apr 30, 2019 13:10:44 GMT -5
And none of us know it all.
We have to be careful of how we judge each other as well.
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Post by 2fw8212a on Apr 30, 2019 13:12:11 GMT -5
In fact I think there were truths that people used to see in the past, that many do not see today. "Let your light so shine before men,
that they may see your good works and glorify your Father in heaven." - Matthew 5:16
"And whatever you do in word or deed,
do all in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God the Father through Him." - Colossians 3:17
"being filled with the fruits of righteousness which are by Jesus Christ, to the glory and praise of God." - Philippians 1:11
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Post by Giller on Apr 30, 2019 13:18:47 GMT -5
I like this verse:
Pro 18:13 (13) He that answereth a matter before he heareth it, it is folly and shame unto him.
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Post by PG4Him on Apr 30, 2019 13:37:07 GMT -5
There isn’t any method that will guarantee success in Bible study. Without the Holy Spirit it’s a waste of time. Context and allegory are both important. What is said and what’s not said are both important. The big picture and the little picture. The immediate and the prophetic. Holy Spirit reconciles all of these things in truth. We humans can’t do that on our own.
Paul didn’t violate or contradict the story of Sarah/Hagar when he made it a metaphor. He didn’t have to change any details of Genesis to make the metaphor work. He didn’t butcher the context; he simply made it a bigger story. This kind of needle-threading requires Holy Spirit inspiration.
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Post by frienduff on Apr 30, 2019 15:02:20 GMT -5
ITs bible only time . I know exactly what sister candance is saying . many men claim sola scripta , but if they were , why do they omit things in it . It would be like me standing before the church and saying I am a black man ONLY . YET I am as white as casper . THEY Lie . Satan can quoate scrips but he aint sola scripta and he will add too or take from the TRUTH . they do this as well.
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Post by frienduff on Apr 30, 2019 15:17:59 GMT -5
And the false god of mens wisdom named hermes , THEY CAN KEEP THAT TRASH . ALL WE NEED is the SPIRIT . THE SPIRIT inspired those men to write those letters . SURELY THE SPIRIT can then GIVE US WHAT WE NEED TO KNOW . IT INSPIRED THE BIBLE thus it can give us what we need to know , when HE KNOWS WE NEED TO KNOW . NOW ON THAT NOTE , WHAT TIME IS IT ......................PRAISING THE LORD TIME .
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Post by frienduff on Apr 30, 2019 15:21:31 GMT -5
Ever noticed how many through exergis , hermes and constanly preaching context context context . DO SO and their own understanding SURE SEEMS to fit their ACRONYM . I AINT FALLING for they ruses . THEY SOUND SMART they know how to allure and twist stuff and its been given unto them to do this , for they loved the god of self above all . NOT US . NOT US . We need CHRIST ALONE and let us look out and be here for one another . Now , did I forget to say , WHAT TIME IS IT , LORD PRAISING and HAND RAISING TIME . The wise theologians , cant stand me . But, the wisdom of this world is what with GOD , FOOLISHNESS , they always learning but never able to come to the truth . ME , I will stick with being a small child that HAS TO CONSTANTLY HEED THE LORD .
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Post by frienduff on Apr 30, 2019 15:40:54 GMT -5
Whereunto shall we like the hermes generation . It is a man who took a journey and came upon a forest . He had never seen such a forest. So he goes and finds a book so he can learn what a forest is And in the book it tells him plainly what a forest is , he then looks at the forest and says alas this is a forest . Along comes another man of hermes . And he says alas why are you so joyful . and the man says LOOK I have found this forest . And the man of hermes says , THAT Is not a forest . And the man says YES IT IS , LOOK this pure book describes it perfectly . And the man of hermes says , NO , You need to be reading that book in context , with exergies and hermes . HERE let me show you . AND he shows him saying , see if that were a forest then all the leaves would be identical the trees would evenly spaced . NO what you got their is no forest , ITS JUST BILLIONS OF TREES . YEP THAT IS HERMES WHAT A CROCK it is . EH .
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Post by PG4Him on Apr 30, 2019 15:43:18 GMT -5
Whereunto shall we like the hermes generation . It is a man who took a journey and came upon a forest . He had never seen such a forest. So he goes and finds a book so he can learn what a forest is And in the book it tells him plainly what a forest is , he then looks at the forest and says alas this is a forest . Along comes another man of hermes . And he says alas why are you so joyful . and the man says LOOK I have found this forest . And the man of hermes says , THAT Is not a forest . And the man says YES IT IS , LOOK this pure book describes it perfectly . And the man of hermes says , NO , You need to be reading that book in context , with exergies and hermes . HERE let me show you . AND he shows him saying , see if that were a forest then all the leaves would be identical the trees would evenly spaced . NO what you got their is no forest , ITS JUST BILLIONS OF TREES . YEP THAT IS HERMES WHAT A CROCK it is . EH . Frienduff you’re a mess!! That made me laugh!
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Post by frienduff on Apr 30, 2019 15:47:52 GMT -5
For the bible cleary shows that men can fall away and be overcome and the end is worse with these , YET HERMES SAYS THIS IS NOT POSSIBE and we must take it in context . THAT IS SUCH A PILE . YEP the forest alleogory works it quite well. WHERE unto shall we like the hermes generation . It is as a man who walking with another and the simple man simply prayed and asked GOD , to reveal what an beach was like . And another man , thought thus within himself . I have much wisdom , I can discern a beach faster than this little man who sticks in THE BOOK only and prays to and trusts in His God . For I am a man , a well learned man and have much wisdom . SO the two men come to this giant beach on the ocean . And the simple man says I THANK THEE O LORD that you have given me the simple understanding of what a beach is , so when saw it I would know it . And the other man laughed him to scorn and said , YOU SILLY MAN YOU all the same , you think you can figure out what a beach is without all this learned wisdom , by just relying on the SPIRIT . AND the man said , YES , LOOK a beach . And the man of hermes again laughs him to scorn and says you silly uneducated man THAT aint no beach , and that aint no ocean , its billions of tons of sand and billlions of gallons of salt water. SO IS the man of hermes always wise in his own conceits , YET CANNOT SEE THE PLAIN TRUTH even when its RIGHT IN HIS FACE .
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Post by frienduff on Apr 30, 2019 15:52:55 GMT -5
FOR GOD has made foolish the wisdom of this world . and has revealed unto suckling babes the pure truth .
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