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Post by PG4Him on May 8, 2019 14:07:21 GMT -5
“A lot of these big scary-sounding theology words are just big scary-sounding theology words that express some pretty simple ideas. What these big words usually are is a really handy way to say a whole lot of things in one word that almost no one actually understands. So you guys are going to be initiated into the intellectual elite.”
He said those sentences immediately together, no pause in between, and no one in the room seemed perturbed by it. This was in the first 90 seconds of the lecture.
”They take that Hermes and bring their Greek paganism into good solid Christianity... but it gives us a good term.”
This is uttered at the 4 minute mark, semi-jokingly, and none of the students protest.
“What the passage means to you should be what the passage meant to Martin Lloyd Jones, to John Calvin, to Augustine, to Paul.”
This at 7 minutes in.
Does this give you a flavor of what the teacher’s agenda might be?
There is NO effective opposition to this on YouTube. And now I see they will shut down comments from educated opponents.
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Post by John on May 8, 2019 14:12:46 GMT -5
Thanks for posting the link. I will check it out.
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Post by John on May 8, 2019 15:18:33 GMT -5
I just watched it, and it seemed like very simplistic stuff. It is hard to believe this is to college students. One of the biggest areas of abuses I have encountered is over historical information. People will revise history to make the Bible agree with them. That is something Shiloh357 was famous for doing. A lot of what this professor was teaching was junk I have heard at WCF from some of the false teachers, so there wasn't much new here. There might be as the series continues, but it is a bunch of nonsense anyway. Most of us know how to read, and have basic reading comprehension skills.
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Post by John on May 8, 2019 15:27:14 GMT -5
I guess I will dive into week 2! This one is 90 minutes. 
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Post by PG4Him on May 8, 2019 15:37:34 GMT -5
This video is informative in how it shows these students being indoctrinated. The underlying message is that they will get the same answer as John Calvin if they know what’s good for them.
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Post by PG4Him on May 8, 2019 15:43:48 GMT -5
John you can watch more of the series if you want to, but it’s all more of the same. At the risk of sounding brutal on this poor teacher (it’s nothing personal; he’s hardly the only one) this is a terrible presentation. It’s full of contradictions, condescensions,, and unfortunate half jokes. If these kids are so dumb they need to buy a fifth grade grammar book, how is he inducting them into some supposedly elite upper crust?
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Post by John on May 8, 2019 15:48:37 GMT -5
Part 2 has a different teacher, and he is acting like he is defending scripture while telling us about all these translation errors and inconsistencies. It is terrible!
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Post by PG4Him on May 8, 2019 16:49:34 GMT -5
Part 2 has a different teacher, and he is acting like he is defending scripture while telling us about all these translation errors and inconsistencies. It is terrible!
You see how these presentations are not objective? The goal is not to equip the students to thoughtfully read. |
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Post by John on May 8, 2019 17:01:43 GMT -5
Part 2 has a different teacher, and he is acting like he is defending scripture while telling us about all these translation errors and inconsistencies. It is terrible!
You see how these presentations are not objective? The goal is not to equip the students to thoughtfully read.
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Post by frienduff on May 8, 2019 17:41:45 GMT -5
Wow. Well. That was interesting. Yesterday I watched a YouTube video on this topic. It was a “Bible teaching church” that posted videos of a teacher giving lectures. I posted a comment that clearly exposed two bad things he said. Now the comments have all been deleted, and they disabled future comments.
Let me give some names . Jospeh smith , popes, emergent , jehovas , seven dayers , seeker friendly . What do these have in common , THEY ALL FALSE , YET they also can expose other false ones TOO . I mean the seven dayers , Mormons , jehovas , all flatly said in their beginnings , ROME WAS FALSE . YET look at them . ITs like the blind leading the blind . The emergent leaders , were quite wise on their approach , they could point out flat out truths , AND YET preach such a delusion as the solution . IF any man comes and can expose false ones , YET their solution is a delusion , RUN , flee that one . I aint never seen the likes of what I am seeing today . Nor the image of what more and more think is actually GOD . and when I say more and more , I aint just talkling about lost Christians , I MEAN ALL RELIGOINS . LIKE a big end time image of a ONE GOD , who DESIRES WORLD PEACE . YET who does this sound like , Read Daniel, ITS THE SPIRIT of ANTI CHRIST at work building and making ready a world , a peoples , a govt , a mindset and a mark , a system . ITS ALL clear to see , And thus let the lambs be faithful through it all . Though the seas roar and the moutains shake , and the rivers come full against those quiet in the land , THE PEACE and SAFETY they thought they would obtain WILL back fire , ON THE DAY of THE LORD and HIS VENGENACE , when HE COMES to punish all whose names were not written in the lambs book of life . The end is coming and many saints will die in the days ahead . But wheher we live or die , and no matter what we suffer or lose , WE only gain , Our HOPE will not fade , we shall abound FOR THE LORD is with HIS OWN and shall console them no matter what they suffer . ALL HOPE is what we who love the LORD in spirit and in truth , TRULY HAVE . ALL HOPE . I can write a song on it . SING TO THE LORD , we GOT ALL HOPE .
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Post by frienduff on May 8, 2019 17:44:52 GMT -5
John you can watch more of the series if you want to, but it’s all more of the same. At the risk of sounding brutal on this poor teacher (it’s nothing personal; he’s hardly the only one) this is a terrible presentation. It’s full of contradictions, condescensions,, and unfortunate half jokes. If these kids are so dumb they need to buy a fifth grade grammar book, how is he inducting them into some supposedly elite upper crust? Since so many like acronyms , heres one , ALNK Like that . ALWAYS LEARNING NEVER KNOWING . |
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Post by frienduff on May 8, 2019 17:51:25 GMT -5
heres a simple solution .
You see how on that board it said , hermuenitics the rule we follow to interpret the bible . Since when can the mind of man or his carnal reasoning
EVER TRULY GRASP the things that be of GOD
SO here is the simple solution and let us feel free to write it on a chalkboard .
THE HOLY SPIRIT , which gives us the understanding OF WHAT IT INSPIRED . YEAH , PUT THAT ON A Chalk board , OR WHY not a BILL BOARD for all to see .
Put the two together on one giant board , And they say , WHICH ONE YA GONNA FOLLOW and TRUST . YEP exactly .
WE GOT ALL WE NEED IN CHRIST to learn as we ought to learn , FROM THE VERY BIBLE , HE INSPIRIED . YEP .
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Post by Cletus on May 8, 2019 17:54:08 GMT -5
You mean...? they would silence the truth and keep promoting error?...  ... so that many could be lead right into a ditch? I had me a good read the other day in Ezekiel. Chapter 34. all I can say is God is good. |
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Post by frienduff on May 8, 2019 17:59:07 GMT -5
You mean...? they would silence the truth and keep promoting error?... ... so that many could be lead right into a ditch? I had me a good read the other day in Ezekiel. Chapter 34. all I can say is God is good. That's right , Cletus , Put those hands up and praise the LORD . |
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Post by Giller on May 9, 2019 13:39:02 GMT -5
Part 2 has a different teacher, and he is acting like he is defending scripture while telling us about all these translation errors and inconsistencies. It is terrible!
You see how these presentations are not objective? The goal is not to equip the students to thoughtfully read. Ya I listened to about 20 minutes of the video, and skimmed through other parts of it. You mentioned this part, in some of what he said: “What the passage means to you should be what the passage meant to Martin Lloyd Jones, to John Calvin, to Augustine, to Paul.” If this person gave careful thought to this, he would know that not all of these men agreed on every thing. And there may have been some truthful things said, but you could tell things are taken off course, and I do not think I heard any thing about praying to God to reveal the word to them, at least in the parts I listened to. It is more about trust in a method, is what I see, and why call it after the name of another god? And why take this litely? God wants the word to become alive to us, he does not want us to know his word as just mere intellect, it is a living word. And I get the sense that the deeper you go into this, it will actually get you to depend more on self to interpret scripture, than on God, that is were a big part of the bondage lies, and it will not produce fruit. |
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... so that many could be lead right into a ditch? 