PG4Him
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Post by PG4Him on May 6, 2019 11:21:06 GMT -5
Ye stiffnecked and uncircumcised in heart and ears, ye do always resist the Holy Ghost: as your fathers did, so do ye. Which of the prophets have not your fathers persecuted? and they have slain them which shewed before of the coming of the Just One; of whom ye have been now the betrayers and murderers: Who have received the law by the disposition of angels, and have not kept it. When they heard these things, they were cut to the heart, and they gnashed on him with their teeth. — Acts 7:51-54
Well this is awkward. Their hearts were pierced by conviction but they resisted anyway.
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Post by John on May 6, 2019 16:25:36 GMT -5
That is why they had to kill the messenger.
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Post by solid on May 6, 2019 16:56:13 GMT -5
Rather than repenting, they killed Stephen, likely condemning themselves, except for Saul. It is amazing how God singled out just one from that angry mob to save.
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Post by PG4Him on May 6, 2019 17:26:53 GMT -5
Stephen asked Jesus not to hold his death against them. I suspect this has something to do with John 20:23. Jesus could have struck them all dead on the spot like Ananias. Stephen didn’t hold it against them, so Jesus gave Saul a second chance. He likely gave all of them a second chance but only Saul repented.
I can’t prove this, but I wonder if there’s a connection between this and Exodus 32. I’ve wondered if Jesus stood because He was willing to return and be done with it.
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Post by John on May 6, 2019 17:47:34 GMT -5
Stephen asked Jesus not to hold his death against them. I suspect this has something to do with John 20:23. Jesus could have struck them all dead on the spot like Ananias. Stephen didn’t hold it against them, so Jesus gave Saul a second chance. He likely gave all of them a second chance but only Saul repented. I can’t prove this, but I wonder if there’s a connection between this and Exodus 32. I’ve wondered if Jesus stood because He was willing to return and be done with it. You are right. God could simply choose to strike someone down anytime He wishes, and we can see from the example of Ananias and Sapphira that He has done it in New Covenant days. Things like that are given for our example, yet people mock the idea because we are not supposed to fear God.
I doubt any in that mob except Saul, later Paul, got saved, but anything is possible. That is really something I never thought about regarding Jesus standing up. Most say He stood up in recognition of Stephen, but who is to say? The Lord may have been ready to return or to destroy the entire number in the group that stoned Stephen? There is not much said about Jesus standing, and the significance of it. I love the way you look deep into things.
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Post by frienduff on May 6, 2019 19:56:00 GMT -5
Stephen asked Jesus not to hold his death against them. I suspect this has something to do with John 20:23. Jesus could have struck them all dead on the spot like Ananias. Stephen didn’t hold it against them, so Jesus gave Saul a second chance. He likely gave all of them a second chance but only Saul repented. I can’t prove this, but I wonder if there’s a connection between this and Exodus 32. I’ve wondered if Jesus stood because He was willing to return and be done with it. You are right. God could simply choose to strike someone down anytime He wishes, and we can see from the example of Ananias and Sapphira that He has done it in New Covenant days. Things like that are given for our example, yet people mock the idea because we are not supposed to fear God.
I doubt any in that mob except Saul, later Paul, got saved, but anything is possible. That is really something I never thought about regarding Jesus standing up. Most say He stood up in recognition of Stephen, but who is to say? The Lord may have been ready to return or to destroy the entire number in the group that stoned Stephen? There is not much said about Jesus standing, and the significance of it. I love the way you look deep into things.
God is truly long suffering . But do let us notice , when those who claim HIS NAME and yet do it in pretence or etc , They can die real quick like did two , a man and his wife . The one thing I have noticed in the old test and the new . GOD don't much like LUKEWARM at all . Now HE does desire they repent and will warn them first , but he hates LUKEWARM middle ground lets blend good with evil inclusive pc stuff , IN HIS NAME . Their is a nest egg of prophets called fALSE who are in exreme and dire danger lest they rpent and repent fast of this evil . When a man REJECTS the love of truth . WHICH meant he had to hear it to reject it , when a man turns grace into lasvicousness , or a fake unity and acceptance , GOD will not and is not well pleased . GOD even warns a church HUGE , about even ALLOWING a false prophetess to teach and seduce . SEE how serious paul , peter, james , jude , john were about decetpoins and deceivers and to get avoid them , rebuke , warn against them . For Paul warned often against evil workers and seducers of churches . SO WHY ON EARTH is this so silent today . I KNOW I ask a question I HAVE LONG KNOWN by GRACE the answer too WE IN A MESS and total deceptions now run more and more in both the world and churches .
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Post by frienduff on May 6, 2019 19:58:33 GMT -5
Let us all get built up in CHRIST by Sound doctrine . Be praying more and be prepared . To lose EVERYTHING in the coming days FOR OUR LORD . GO OUT , GO OUT FAITHFUL TO THE LAST BREATH unto HE WHO HAS SAVED us and warn all to do the same .
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Post by frienduff on May 6, 2019 20:02:08 GMT -5
That is why they had to kill the messenger.
THIS is what every false leader has done in one way or another . IN heart they have said , COME let us kill the true messenger , let us changes his words and let us sieze on the inheritance and have men sit under us as KINGS . PONDER THAT ONE . And by their ever wise in their own eyes wisdom they got no idea they DO THIS . THEY DO IT IN HEART , but not mouth . THOUGH even that is changing . For with all inclusive they actually DENY HIM as the ONLY WAY , for in heart they long have .
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