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Post by Giller on May 23, 2019 12:32:13 GMT -5
Guys no answer yet from Carter, but I am going to receive a book soon, that my friend has read, which might shed some light, at least concerning some of the thoughts from Gary Wilkerson, concerning his dad.
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Post by Giller on Jun 12, 2019 10:15:08 GMT -5
I just received the book my friend told me about, I will have to eventually start reading it, and I will mention what i find.
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Post by frienduff on Jun 12, 2019 17:10:27 GMT -5
Giller , put those hands up and praise the LORD . Let us know what you find .
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Post by Giller on Jul 20, 2019 8:00:03 GMT -5
So I am done the David Wilkerson book, which was written by Gary Wilkerson.
Generally speaking, it is a good book on David Wilkerson's life, there are some things that Gary mentions that are a bit questionable, of why he would mention certain things certain ways, but there is nothing conclusive concerning whether he is for ecumenicalism or not, or seeker sensitive, or least heading in that way, but certain things that he says get you to question certain things of that nature.
Does anyone have information either way if Gary is into ecumenicalism or seeker sensitive stuff?
My prayer is that he is not, but it would not surprise me, at least to some degree that it is so.
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Post by Giller on Sept 12, 2019 12:20:05 GMT -5
Here is part of what I wrote in another thread: "... And in this post, I wanted to show some things that was mentioned in one of David Wilkerson's preaches, and things mentioned in his son's book.
From reading Gary's book, he seems to often puts somewhat of a negative spin on when his father spoke against certain movements.
I wrote to him, so to see what his view was on ecumenical stuff, and I believe a bit on the seeker sensitive movement.
I did not get an answer, and could not find any message of him speaking against the ecumenical movement or even seeker sensitive stuff.
I did find a post of someone who went to their assembly, and does not want to go back, he seems to find it somewhat seeker sensitive, and some of the music (maybe not all) seems to be off the mark, and seems to be wild in some form.
Pray for Gary, because to me there seems to be a wrong direction there.
Read more: narrow-way-forums.freeforums.net/thread/1867/david-wilkerson-said-1970#ixzz5zKbVJ68z"
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Post by Giller on Sept 12, 2019 12:30:49 GMT -5
Now here is something my friend noticed. Is that the books that David Wilkerson wrote such as set the trumpet to thy mouth, and prophecy books, are no longer available at either worldchallenge.org/store or at store.tscnyc.org/categories/Books/David-Wilkerson/. Now I know that I do not agree with some of the prophecies such as Babylon being the U.S.A, but in many of those books there was a lot of good genuine warnings, and it seems that David's books on warning are no longer available in the library of Times Square Church or World Challenge ministry. I do not know why they are no longer available at Times Square church, and concerning World Challenge which is what Gary Wilkerson heads up, those books are also not available, but concerning Gary, I do not really see much warning coming from him.
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Post by Giller on Oct 6, 2019 15:19:43 GMT -5
I just found a quote that confirms that Carter is ecumenical, here it is:
(https://soldiersofchristenduringhardness.wordpress.com/2014/03/31/carter-conlon-does-not-warn-of-the-false-prophet-david-wilkerson/)
(...Carter Conlon is very ecumenical as he calls for many different denominations to “work together”:
“It is time to gather with one heart and one prayer: Holy Spirit, come! Come to the Baptists, the Methodists, the Lutherans, the Catholic charismatics, the Presbyterians, the Salvation Army—all the churches in our cities! Give us the strength to pray and to work together, recognizing that there are no big or small people in the kingdom of God—we are all equally important. Help us to realize that nobody can do this alone; we need the whole body of Jesus Christ. Yes, we are allowed our distinctives, our differences, in worship style, for those things are inconsequential.” (MERCY)...)
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Post by frienduff on Oct 7, 2019 6:14:34 GMT -5
I just found a quote that confirms that Carter is ecumenical, here it is: (https://soldiersofchristenduringhardness.wordpress.com/2014/03/31/carter-conlon-does-not-warn-of-the-false-prophet-david-wilkerson/)
(...Carter Conlon is very ecumenical as he calls for many different denominations to “work together”:
“It is time to gather with one heart and one prayer: Holy Spirit, come! Come to the Baptists, the Methodists, the Lutherans, the Catholic charismatics, the Presbyterians, the Salvation Army—all the churches in our cities! Give us the strength to pray and to work together, recognizing that there are no big or small people in the kingdom of God—we are all equally important. Help us to realize that nobody can do this alone; we need the whole body of Jesus Christ. Yes, we are allowed our distinctives, our differences, in worship style, for those things are inconsequential.” (MERCY)...)Keep the house church going . The mainstream is tanking more than ever . Its all about an all inclusive world and church now and they are very crafity in their speeches . This is the goal and it is their whole life and hearts mission now . We got betrayed from within a while back as they snuck every crafity folks in and changed the entire direction of what it means to evangelize . The lambs are for sure going underground and any mainstream church that does not conform to this ideal , Will be forced out through pressures in the day ahead . THE TIME is now that all lambs who love JESUS in Spirit and in Truth , must be as one in the fight against this lie and LET us be proclaiming the promotion of truth alone and the one true gospel alone .
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Post by frienduff on Oct 7, 2019 6:18:06 GMT -5
Some of us have been long warning about this . and though the warnings have largely fell on deaf ears , the lambs of HIS pasture have been hearing it and getting ready for the final hour battle , in which all things will hit a climatic peak .
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Post by frienduff on Oct 7, 2019 6:23:16 GMT -5
The younger waited for the elder to die and then they do all to reshape the church and churches into the image of the all inclusive ecumenical lie . What a sell out to all that is HOLY , RIGHTEOUS and TRUE . Let not one lamb who names the name of JESUS CHRIST even take one step or thought in the direction of this dead end death trap false love unity inclusive move .
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Post by John on Oct 7, 2019 6:30:08 GMT -5
The younger waited for the elder to die and then they do all to reshape the church and churches into the image of the all inclusive ecumenical lie . What a sell out to all that is HOLY , RIGHTEOUS and TRUE . Let not one lamb who names the name of JESUS CHRIST even take one step or thought in the direction of this dead end death trap false love unity inclusive move . That is the same strategy left-wing politicians have been following. They brainwash the children in the schools. They know the older people won't go along with their agenda, but they had a long range strategy to wait till they die off and the young people they deceived become the majority. That is why it is so critical that parents train up their children in the right way, so that doesn't happen.
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