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Post by Giller on May 26, 2019 16:02:04 GMT -5
I do not know what video you saw, but what is described as being part of Zumba is salsa dancing, which is not good, and sensual, and the videos I saw, and what I saw in real life, I saw these things.
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Post by John on May 26, 2019 16:37:31 GMT -5
I do not know what video you saw, but what is described as being part of Zumba is salsa dancing, which is not good, and sensual, and the videos I saw, and what I saw in real life, I saw these things. I just looked at part of a video of 3 women demonstrating it for 20 minutes. I am not into dancing, and never have been, and I haven't seen this up close.
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Post by frienduff on May 26, 2019 22:52:22 GMT -5
A huge move also that is connecting folks is this contemplative prayer junk . NO GOOD . And they are incorporating roman Catholicism in the elements and etc INTO OUR CHURCHES TOO . THIS IS ALL A SHAM . they have opened a door that never should have been opened . their yoga and junk needs TO GO. I tell us all its a madhouse and these folks got no idea they are opening up doors to evil spirits . And the goal of all those spirits TODAY IS ONE BIG INCLUSIVE LIE . They got no idea what they have done and those who sit under them got no idea either . TOTAL madhouse .
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Post by frienduff on May 26, 2019 22:56:21 GMT -5
But PRAISE THE LORD . He gave Letters a wonderful idea . ITS BIBLE FEASTING TIME . WE GOT OUR DEFENSE , ITS THE LORD , HIS SPIRIT and SOUND DOCTRINE . FEAST ON IT .
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Post by frienduff on May 26, 2019 23:03:00 GMT -5
I don't think this is going to surprise a one of us . But the all out final hour of delusion is really hitting a climax. WELL, were we not trained for just this time . We were born in this day and for this hour , AND WE GOING OUT FAITHFUL TO THE LORD and exhorting one another . I had rather die for Christ than live for a lie . AND ALL GLORY TO THE LORD .
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Post by John on May 29, 2019 15:45:23 GMT -5
I will say this about the things mentioned in this thread. Any church that I have the leadership role in will not have Yoga classes, contemplative prayer, Zumba classes or any other kind of work out classes or unity with Rome. I wouldn't have brought Zumba into a church simply because it is worldly and has no place in a Christian Church, even without seeing what it is. I am all for staying in shape, but bodily exercise profits little, and the church has more important things to focus on.
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Post by frienduff on May 29, 2019 19:58:35 GMT -5
I will say this about the things mentioned in this thread. Any church that I have the leadership role in will not have Yoga classes, contemplative prayer, Zumba classes or any other kind of work out classes or unity with Rome. I wouldn't have brought Zumba into a church simply because it is worldly and has no place in a Christian Church, even without seeing what it is. I am all for staying in shape, but bodily exercise profits little, and the church has more important things to focus on.
That's right . The only thing allowed into our churches , JESUS , HIS EVERY WORD , THE LOVE OF HIM above all and the love of the brethren . And darkness is not allowed . Thus anything that honors NOT GOD and is a danger to the brethren , GETS THE BOOT out the door . An example .
OH is that a circle makers book , BURN IT . OH is that contemplative prayer , FLEE IT OH is that the purpose driven life , BURN IT OH is that the kjv bible , LOVE IT AND READ IT AND FEAST ON IT . just a few examples .
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Post by Giller on May 30, 2019 1:43:09 GMT -5
Here is an interesting scripture to ponder on:
Pro 6:16-17 (16) These six things doth the LORD hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him: (17) A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood,
Here it just simply mentions a proud look, and there is other verses who mention an high look.
Well even in certain types of worldly music, and the way things may be done, it can produce a proud or high look.
And this is an abomination to God.
And you can even see this in so called Christian music.
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Post by frienduff on May 30, 2019 8:48:03 GMT -5
Here is an interesting scripture to ponder on: Pro 6:16-17 (16) These six things doth the LORD hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him: (17) A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood, Here it just simply mentions a proud look, and there is other verses who mention an high look. Well even in certain types of worldly music, and the way things may be done, it can produce a proud or high look. And this is an abomination to God. And you can even see this in so called Christian music. And therein lies the gravest of dangers . When Christ and His own sang that hym , how much you bet it was not as a rock star look at me and praise me for my voice type worship .
Folks got no idea the danger they set their own young up for years back when this became the norm in churches . PRIDE is a killer and all can be tempted . Thus when ye sing before men and women , MAKE IT NOT ABOUT YOU .
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Post by Giller on May 30, 2019 11:40:44 GMT -5
And also I see high type of looks, in hip hop, rap, and heavy metal.
These things do not produce humbleness.
People may have a hard time noticing, but observe and see, especially when someone gives themselves over to these things.
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Post by John on May 30, 2019 12:48:18 GMT -5
And also I see high type of looks, in hip hop, rap, and heavy metal. These things do not produce humbleness. Pride can creep in anywhere if we are not careful, even among popular preachers and gospel singers.
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Post by frienduff on May 30, 2019 14:55:47 GMT -5
And also I see high type of looks, in hip hop, rap, and heavy metal. These things do not produce humbleness. Pride can creep in anywhere if we are not careful, even among popular preachers and gospel singers.
This is why not only should any leader have a group of trusted men to be on guard for him , He needs total input from all , even those who seem to be the lowest babes And He needs to always be open to any correction no matter who brings it . Like KING david . David was in the highest authority to be given and yet heard the lowly Nathan , of course its true Nathan was a prophet . But the point is , NO MAN is above correction , and if any man thinks he cannot be tempted HE BETTER LOOK OUT LEST HE IS and FAILS too . This is why I am also so dead set against that dung pile stuff they do . Like this new modern witness stuff . GO and hang out at clubs , bars , strip clubs and etc . RIGHT . That is an open invitation to lust . GOD knows who needs to hear the gospel and rest assured it can be done in a proper way . WHEN CLOTHES are on and bars are closed . We got no business rushing into that . Just street preach is fine . THE LORD will open up whoever is ordained to be . HE ALREADY KNOWS . this seeker friendly stuff don't work either . And frankly I am about wore out with its approach . We don't hug folks to hell man . We simply preach sound doctrine and who ever gets convicted , will surely be like OH what must I do to be saved . GOD is the one in control , not us . Just preach truth and holiness and POINT TO JESUS as the only means of salvation . USE the law man . USE IT as a means to convict . But do something other than hugging folks to hell and correcting none and oh lets not use the bible and say SIN is SIN approach I keep seeing today . DID It work with the seeker friendly . DID IT , OR DID an have those churches ONLY GOTTEN WORSE as all sorts of sins keep getting accepted . GOD knows we aer not to be unequally yoked toether with unbelievers and HE KNOWS the church and all in it , NEED TO KEEP being exhorted daily lest any does get hardened through the deceitfulness of sin . BUT GUESS what , so does satan , ITS WHY HE changed the pattern . SATAN KNOWS the pattern OF GOD WORKS , SO HE CHANGED IT . BUT WE DONT HEED HIM or his men and women . We heed GOD , the SPIRIT , following ONLY the LAMB . And guess what , THE SPIRIT I HEAR , says real loud DO NOT CHANGE ONE OUNCE OF MY PATTERN I TAUGHT while I WALKED THIS earth . COURSE the SPIRIT says that , WHO DO WE THINK IT IS . exactly . NO MORE SEEKER FRIENDLY WE HEED YE NOT . WE HEED THE VOICE OF THE SHEPARD and we look out for the brethren .
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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2019 15:15:44 GMT -5
Humanism has had great influence on our churches today. This worldly philosophy has no place in the Kingdom of God. Yet sadly, many have embraced it, and so we see the churches perhaps growing in attenders, but the Church lacking in spiritual understanding and maturity.
"For those who live according to the flesh set their minds on the things of the flesh, but those who live according to the Spirit, the things of the Spirit. 6 For to be carnally minded is death, but to be spiritually minded is life and peace. 7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God; for it is not subject to the law of God, nor indeed can be. 8 So then, those who are in the flesh cannot please God.
9 But you are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God dwells in you. Now if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he is not His." - Rom 8:5-9
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Post by Tabitha3319 on Jun 22, 2019 20:42:21 GMT -5
I think of Zumba as a fun way of exercising.
If a women's group does Zumba, I don't really see what's wrong with it.
Is all dancing wrong?
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Post by 2fw8212a on Jun 22, 2019 20:44:42 GMT -5
Dancing is influenced by spirits, those spirits can be evil or good.
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