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Post by frienduff on Aug 14, 2019 6:34:29 GMT -5
I believe the whole story of the Israelites leaving Egypt, crossing the Red Sea, trekking through the wilderness, crossing the Jordan, then battling to conquer the Promised Land....is a picture/ensample of the Christian journey. Two bodies of water to get across...are there two baptisms to undergo? There is but one baptism and its the baptism of the HOLY GHOST . And then we do as the early church did and also be water baptized . Its also seen in the house of Cornelius that the Baptism of the SPIRIT , in that case , actually happened FIRST , for then PETER said is there any water here that these may be baptized . Sometimes the baptism of the HOLY GHOST occurs FIRST then we get water baptized . I suppose sometimes we get water baptized first then it occurs later . Some had heard the name of JESUS and repented , but also had not yet received the BAPTISM of the HOLY GHOST . Some had also been baptized under JOHN and had not yet received the HOLY GHOST . The one true baptism IS OF CHRIST , the other water one is of obedience unto HIM who would have us to do this too . I suppose one could use the words baptism to apply to persecution . THOUGH I don't see why . I think the cup of affliction that our LORD drank is what we drink of , for we too are persecuted , even if at first its just words and separation of company . But this will get worse in the days ahead . Words will become all out actions and laws will keep changing which support evil and imprison those who would so warn against said evil . An all inclusive world , WILL HAVE ALL INCLUSIVE LAWS and it will have a head and kings to reign over it . LET NO MAN HEED THAT HEAD NOR THOSE KINGS , for they are of darkness and lead the world to armegeddon and all unto perdtion at their end . Let the lambs be built up in Christ and by bible sound doctrine and be ready for exploits and doing all to point ONLY TO CHRIST . The final climax of the battle is at the doors . And let all lambs be ready in CHRIST and be watching and doing all things that OUR LORD said and that THE SPIRIT WOULD ECHO the same words .
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2019 10:12:50 GMT -5
Yes, on one level it is talking about those two baptisms...water and the Holy Spirit. But I wonder if there is more to it as well. Maybe it is a picture of dealing with both outer sins of the flesh as well as then purifying the heart/soul of inner iniquities....the temple has an outer court, then an inner court, then the Holy of Holies. The Israelites were told to "consecrate yourselves" just before crossing the Jordan, so it seems it might have to do with a level of consecration. There is a reason for the wilderness journey of testing and trial, of being broken and molded on the potter's wheel. I think most don't have a long lapse of time between being baptized in water and receiving the Holy Spirit, so I'm not sure it can be equated to the wilderness journey.....nor is there any qualification to receive the Holy Spirit, it's available to any and all as soon as they are saved. Some even receive the Holy Spirit the same time as they are baptized in water. It's significant that the waters of the Jordan are at flood stage but get held back all the way to the town called "Adam". Anyway, something to ask the Lord about...I believe there is food for thought in those things.
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Post by frienduff on Aug 14, 2019 19:05:28 GMT -5
Yes, on one level it is talking about those two baptisms...water and the Holy Spirit. But I wonder if there is more to it as well. Maybe it is a picture of dealing with both outer sins of the flesh as well as then purifying the heart/soul of inner iniquities....the temple has an outer court, then an inner court, then the Holy of Holies. The Israelites were told to "consecrate yourselves" just before crossing the Jordan, so it seems it might have to do with a level of consecration. There is a reason for the wilderness journey of testing and trial, of being broken and molded on the potter's wheel. I think most don't have a long lapse of time between being baptized in water and receiving the Holy Spirit, so I'm not sure it can be equated to the wilderness journey.....nor is there any qualification to receive the Holy Spirit, it's available to any and all as soon as they are saved. Some even receive the Holy Spirit the same time as they are baptized in water. It's significant that the waters of the Jordan are at flood stage but get held back all the way to the town called "Adam". Anyway, something to ask the Lord about...I believe there is food for thought in those things. You know what is also happening . I am seeing folks wearing out sister . THEY are wearing out on their wilderness journey and finding common ground again with Babylon . Folks are just desiring unity now . And they are compromising what they used to KNOW was dead wrong . ITS GONNASUCK everyone in . EVERYONE , cept the true lambs that wont budge from the path of Christ . NOBODY GOES BACK INTO BABYLON on my watch . I had a sister a few months back ,and she made excuse for her most loved teacher , when he even went into well known false camp of unity . Hung around them leaders and said NOTHING . I don't make excuse for man . MEN fall , and facts are facts . WHEN , by grace , I warned us this was going to take all , IT WILL . We better not be trying to settle for company just because we are tired . I want unity and I want fellowship , BUT NOT AT THE COST OF ONE DOT OF TRUTH . That is all dead end and death to me . I WILL HAVE NONE OF IT. As you can see , my mind is only DIGGING IN DEEP and getting ready . I know what is coming for me and against me . AND rest assured it wont be nothing Good from this world and these churches . BUT I got my peace , HIS NAME IS JESUS and that is WHO I will follow no matter how much a hater or whatever I get called . NO COMPROMISE . I Had sooner be dead and rotted in the ground . NO fear of man , no fear of death and no fear of persecution . FOR THE LORD IS MY HELPER and no matter what I go through BY HIM and with ALL HOPE IN HIM I shall abound , even in the hour of my death . I Know I seem crazy to most , I know for sure I seem odd as all get out . BUT I GOT ALL HOPE and ALL JOY and ALL PEACE , IN THE LORD .
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2019 7:09:36 GMT -5
Yes, on one level it is talking about those two baptisms...water and the Holy Spirit. But I wonder if there is more to it as well. Maybe it is a picture of dealing with both outer sins of the flesh as well as then purifying the heart/soul of inner iniquities....the temple has an outer court, then an inner court, then the Holy of Holies. The Israelites were told to "consecrate yourselves" just before crossing the Jordan, so it seems it might have to do with a level of consecration. There is a reason for the wilderness journey of testing and trial, of being broken and molded on the potter's wheel. I think most don't have a long lapse of time between being baptized in water and receiving the Holy Spirit, so I'm not sure it can be equated to the wilderness journey.....nor is there any qualification to receive the Holy Spirit, it's available to any and all as soon as they are saved. Some even receive the Holy Spirit the same time as they are baptized in water. It's significant that the waters of the Jordan are at flood stage but get held back all the way to the town called "Adam". Anyway, something to ask the Lord about...I believe there is food for thought in those things. You know what is also happening . I am seeing folks wearing out sister . THEY are wearing out on their wilderness journey and finding common ground again with Babylon . Folks are just desiring unity now . And they are compromising what they used to KNOW was dead wrong . ITS GONNASUCK everyone in . EVERYONE , cept the true lambs that wont budge from the path of Christ . NOBODY GOES BACK INTO BABYLON on my watch . I had a sister a few months back ,and she made excuse for her most loved teacher , when he even went into well known false camp of unity . Hung around them leaders and said NOTHING . I don't make excuse for man . MEN fall , and facts are facts . WHEN , by grace , I warned us this was going to take all , IT WILL . We better not be trying to settle for company just because we are tired . I want unity and I want fellowship , BUT NOT AT THE COST OF ONE DOT OF TRUTH . That is all dead end and death to me . I WILL HAVE NONE OF IT. As you can see , my mind is only DIGGING IN DEEP and getting ready . I know what is coming for me and against me . AND rest assured it wont be nothing Good from this world and these churches . BUT I got my peace , HIS NAME IS JESUS and that is WHO I will follow no matter how much a hater or whatever I get called . NO COMPROMISE . I Had sooner be dead and rotted in the ground . NO fear of man , no fear of death and no fear of persecution . FOR THE LORD IS MY HELPER and no matter what I go through BY HIM and with ALL HOPE IN HIM I shall abound , even in the hour of my death . I Know I seem crazy to most , I know for sure I seem odd as all get out . BUT I GOT ALL HOPE and ALL JOY and ALL PEACE , IN THE LORD .
Jesus is coming for a matured and victorious bride....the whole thing with antichrist is that it ensnares those who still need man or have their trust in man. In the beginning of our walk, we all do......we are like babies and children depending on our parents and families. But we need to keep growing, because the Lord is desirous that His people learn to look to Him alone and don't "need" to have the company of others any longer. That is part of what maturing is about and it is a battle to get to that place. Whoooeee, this is more challenging for some than for others, I'm sure. It doesn't mean to become a hermit (though I believe it's necessary that God will call each one to walk alone for a season - like a betrothed bride coming apart to prepare for her bridegroom), but it means that we need to get to a place where our fountains are in Him alone and we are loyal to Him alone and look for His affirmation alone, so that when we are with others we can bring what comes straight from Him without any shadow of turning or compromise. This, I believe is how we overcome antichrist, or at least part of it.
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Post by frienduff on Aug 15, 2019 16:00:20 GMT -5
You know what is also happening . I am seeing folks wearing out sister . THEY are wearing out on their wilderness journey and finding common ground again with Babylon . Folks are just desiring unity now . And they are compromising what they used to KNOW was dead wrong . ITS GONNASUCK everyone in . EVERYONE , cept the true lambs that wont budge from the path of Christ . NOBODY GOES BACK INTO BABYLON on my watch . I had a sister a few months back ,and she made excuse for her most loved teacher , when he even went into well known false camp of unity . Hung around them leaders and said NOTHING . I don't make excuse for man . MEN fall , and facts are facts . WHEN , by grace , I warned us this was going to take all , IT WILL . We better not be trying to settle for company just because we are tired . I want unity and I want fellowship , BUT NOT AT THE COST OF ONE DOT OF TRUTH . That is all dead end and death to me . I WILL HAVE NONE OF IT. As you can see , my mind is only DIGGING IN DEEP and getting ready . I know what is coming for me and against me . AND rest assured it wont be nothing Good from this world and these churches . BUT I got my peace , HIS NAME IS JESUS and that is WHO I will follow no matter how much a hater or whatever I get called . NO COMPROMISE . I Had sooner be dead and rotted in the ground . NO fear of man , no fear of death and no fear of persecution . FOR THE LORD IS MY HELPER and no matter what I go through BY HIM and with ALL HOPE IN HIM I shall abound , even in the hour of my death . I Know I seem crazy to most , I know for sure I seem odd as all get out . BUT I GOT ALL HOPE and ALL JOY and ALL PEACE , IN THE LORD .
Jesus is coming for a matured and victorious bride....the whole thing with antichrist is that it ensnares those who still need man or have their trust in man. In the beginning of our walk, we all do......we are like babies and children depending on our parents and families. But we need to keep growing, because the Lord is desirous that His people learn to look to Him alone and don't "need" to have the company of others any longer. That is part of what maturing is about and it is a battle to get to that place. Whoooeee, this is more challenging for some than for others, I'm sure. It doesn't mean to become a hermit (though I believe it's necessary that God will call each one to walk alone for a season - like a betrothed bride coming apart to prepare for her bridegroom), but it means that we need to get to a place where our fountains are in Him alone and we are loyal to Him alone and look for His affirmation alone, so that when we are with others we can bring what comes straight from Him without any shadow of turning or compromise. This, I believe is how we overcome antichrist, or at least part of it. Even now their are many anti Christs , whereby we KNOW its the last days . Sister , I don't care what the Vatican says about you , YOU KNOW I LOVE YOU . HANDS UP and PRAISE THE LORD .
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2019 7:07:33 GMT -5
Jesus is coming for a matured and victorious bride....the whole thing with antichrist is that it ensnares those who still need man or have their trust in man. In the beginning of our walk, we all do......we are like babies and children depending on our parents and families. But we need to keep growing, because the Lord is desirous that His people learn to look to Him alone and don't "need" to have the company of others any longer. That is part of what maturing is about and it is a battle to get to that place. Whoooeee, this is more challenging for some than for others, I'm sure. It doesn't mean to become a hermit (though I believe it's necessary that God will call each one to walk alone for a season - like a betrothed bride coming apart to prepare for her bridegroom), but it means that we need to get to a place where our fountains are in Him alone and we are loyal to Him alone and look for His affirmation alone, so that when we are with others we can bring what comes straight from Him without any shadow of turning or compromise. This, I believe is how we overcome antichrist, or at least part of it. Even now their are many anti Christs , whereby we KNOW its the last days . Sister , I don't care what the Vatican says about you , YOU KNOW I LOVE YOU . HANDS UP and PRAISE THE LORD . Yes...there were antichrists/wolves circling the flock when Paul was alive and he often was battling to keep them at bay.....and when he departed, they came in and decimated the flock as he said they would. So just think, the church has not been right ever since then....we are all like Jesus "born" into the midst of danger, sheep among wolves.....and that is why it's important not to look to model ourselves after the churches, but rather purely to the word of God and His Spirit.....but even so by such things we are tested and tried and learn to grow, and God is all the more glorified when we overcome.
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Post by frienduff on Aug 16, 2019 7:17:24 GMT -5
Even now their are many anti Christs , whereby we KNOW its the last days . Sister , I don't care what the Vatican says about you , YOU KNOW I LOVE YOU . HANDS UP and PRAISE THE LORD . Yes...there were antichrists/wolves circling the flock when Paul was alive and he often was battling to keep them at bay.....and when he departed, they came in and decimated the flock as he said they would. So just think, the church has not been right ever since then....we are all like Jesus "born" into the midst of danger, sheep among wolves.....and that is why it's important not to look to model ourselves after the churches, but rather purely to the word of God and His Spirit.....but even so by such things we are tested and tried and learn to grow, and God is all the more glorified when we overcome. Well the POPE and billions will not agree with this , BUT I SURE DO , PUT THOSE HANDS UP DEAR SISTER and PRAISE THE HOLY LORD .
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Post by frienduff on Aug 16, 2019 21:11:00 GMT -5
Sister watchful , neustra hermana del norte . You are loved dear sister . That means , our sister of the north . Yeah , some of you all are getting nicknames . But it just means you all are loved . Now hands up and praise the LORD .
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