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Post by joseph on Jul 8, 2019 13:01:52 GMT -5
There is nothing in either passage that indicates that Paul is speaking to non-Christians or non-Christians only. These warnings are to everyone that reads them. Do we believe the Apostle Paul is telling us the truth or do we believe he is lying to us?
I think there are a few places in the chapter, and earlier, that show Paul is speaking to the Ekklesia assembly , believers , not to unbelievers.
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Post by PG4Him on Jul 8, 2019 13:42:55 GMT -5
I wrote unto you in an epistle not to company with fornicators: Yet not altogether with the fornicators of this world, or with the covetous, or extortioners, or with idolaters; for then must ye needs go out of the world. But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolater, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such an one no not to eat. For what have I to do to judge them also that are without? do not ye judge them that are within? But them that are without God judgeth. Therefore put away from among yourselves that wicked person. — 1 Corinthians 5:9-13
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Post by joseph on Jul 8, 2019 14:34:08 GMT -5
A lot of indicators who is being written to.
1 Corinthians 6 King James Version (KJV)
6 Dare any of you, having a matter against another, go to law before the unjust, and not before the saints?
2 Do ye not know that the saints shall judge the world? and if the world shall be judged by you, are ye unworthy to judge the smallest matters?
3 Know ye not that we shall judge angels? how much more things that pertain to this life?
4 If then ye have judgments of things pertaining to this life, set them to judge who are least esteemed in the church.
5 I speak to your shame. Is it so, that there is not a wise man among you? no, not one that shall be able to judge between his brethren?
6 But brother goeth to law with brother, and that before the unbelievers.
7 Now therefore there is utterly a fault among you, because ye go to law one with another. Why do ye not rather take wrong? why do ye not rather suffer yourselves to be defrauded?
8 Nay, ye do wrong, and defraud, and that your brethren.
9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,
10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.
11 And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.
12 All things are lawful unto me, but all things are not expedient: all things are lawful for me, but I will not be brought under the power of any.
13 Meats for the belly, and the belly for meats: but God shall destroy both it and them. Now the body is not for fornication, but for the Lord; and the Lord for the body.
14 And God hath both raised up the Lord, and will also raise up us by his own power.
15 Know ye not that your bodies are the members of Christ? shall I then take the members of Christ, and make them the members of an harlot? God forbid.
16 What? know ye not that he which is joined to an harlot is one body? for two, saith he, shall be one flesh.
17 But he that is joined unto the Lord is one spirit.
18 Flee fornication. Every sin that a man doeth is without the body; but he that committeth fornication sinneth against his own body.
19 What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own?
20 For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God's. King James Version (KJV)
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1 Corinthians 1 King James Version (KJV)
1 Paul called to be an apostle of Jesus Christ through the will of God, and Sosthenes our brother,
2 Unto the church of God which is at Corinth, to them that are sanctified in Christ Jesus, called to be saints, with all that in every place call upon the name of Jesus Christ our Lord, both their's and our's:
3 Grace be unto you, and peace, from God our Father, and from the Lord Jesus Christ.
4 I thank my God always on your behalf, for the grace of God which is given you by Jesus Christ;
5 That in every thing ye are enriched by him, in all utterance, and in all knowledge;
6 Even as the testimony of Christ was confirmed in you:
7 So that ye come behind in no gift; waiting for the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ:
8 Who shall also confirm you unto the end, that ye may be blameless in the day of our Lord Jesus Christ.
9 God is faithful, by whom ye were called unto the fellowship of his Son Jesus Christ our Lord.
10 Now I beseech you, brethren, by the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that ye all speak the same thing, and that there be no divisions among you; but that ye be perfectly joined together in the same mind and in the same judgment.
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Post by Cletus on Jul 9, 2019 6:49:35 GMT -5
I feel the same way. The time for being half in the world and half serving God is over. As Joshua said, we need to choose this day who we will serve. Yes, it is time for judgment , and judgment begins in the house of God. Among Ekklesia, daily. No more letting the sinful continue without warning in the assembly. my thought is that when we compare the current condition/situation of the world/society with OT times, we are about to see judgment. its about to start.
I see God moving on the hearts of believers right now to cleanse them. and my reply... not only my feet LORD, but my hands and face too!
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Post by frienduff on Jul 9, 2019 7:38:36 GMT -5
That's right Cletus , the LORD shall supply all we need . Their has been a stone of men through all ages that they created . And then there is the TRUE STONE which is Christ . And through all ages they have rolled this stone and it gets larger and larger . the stone of mens contradictions to CHRIST and His holy words . And the plan is to drop it like a bomb upon the lambs that they are trapped and deceived under the weight of it . And every time they drop it and raise it , they find not a lamb one under it . So they go to work building a larger one to drop on the lambs . And they drop it and then raise it and not a lamb one is under it . And now the boulder has grown to massive size and many men roll it as a last ditch effort to crush the lambs under the weight of its deception. GUESS what , same result . They going to find not a lamb one under it . WHY . CAUSE THE TRUE LAMBS HEED ONLY THE SHEPARD and THE SHEPARD MOVES THEM OUT OF THE Way of the BOULDER of deception and keeps them safe . OH many will be deiceved , BUT NOT THOSE WHO FOLLOW THE LAMB . NOT THOSE .
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