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Post by joseph on Jun 26, 2019 15:02:06 GMT -5
Is there a commandment/ instruction/ direction
(1) Forbidding preachers/ teachers from tickling the listeners ears ?
(2) Forbidding God's people from listening to the ear ticklers ?
(3) Forbidding propagating superneat, supernatural, new age, bogus teachings ?
(4) Forbidding listening to superneat, supernatural, new age, bogus teachings ?
(5) Forbidding studying the ways of other (gentile, pagan, worldly) nations-peoples ?
(6) Forbidding studying God's Word ?
(7) Forbidding reading God's Word ?
(8) Forbidding teaching God's Word ?
(9) Forbidding listening to God's Word being preached in God's Power and in Truth ?
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Post by joseph on Jun 26, 2019 15:04:18 GMT -5
Is there a commandment/ instruction/ direction (1) Forbidding preachers/ teachers from tickling the listeners ears ? Specifically ? Does "no bearing false witness" apply/count for this ? Is there anyplace in Scripture that specifically says "no tickling ears " for preachers , teachers or others ?
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Post by joseph on Jun 26, 2019 15:07:47 GMT -5
Is there a commandment/ instruction/ direction (8) Forbidding teaching God's Word ? (9) Forbidding listening to God's Word being preached in God's Power and in Truth ? Perhaps there is !!! (vague memory though ..... requires vetting for me..... seems like there was some time, some place.... or for some persons) or not staying only in Scripture, the entire roman abomination forbids teaching God's Word , and probably often tells people to not listen to anyone preaching the truth of Jesus also .... but again, that is not in Scripture, but in history ..... (and today, around the world) ...... or did the religious leaders opposing Jesus forbid teaching God's Word , teaching instead traditions of men , putting traditions over God's Word ?
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Post by John on Jul 15, 2019 10:46:04 GMT -5
Is there a commandment/ instruction/ direction (1) Forbidding preachers/ teachers from tickling the listeners ears ? We see in the prophets warnings about false teachers healing the hurt of God's people by telling lies. We are told they will have blood on their hands for those who wind up in hell because they believed them.(2) Forbidding God's people from listening to the ear ticklers ? We are warned of the danger and it is not profitable to do so.(3) Forbidding propagating superneat, supernatural, new age, bogus teachings ? These liars will have their part in the lake of fire.(4) Forbidding listening to superneat, supernatural, new age, bogus teachings ? We are warned of the danger so it is not to our profit to listen to them.(5) Forbidding studying the ways of other (gentile, pagan, worldly) nations-peoples ? If it is for the purpose of following them, we are not to learn their ways. (6) Forbidding studying God's Word ? We are told to study to show ourselves approved.(7) Forbidding reading God's Word ? We are told to read and meditate upon the scriptures.(8) Forbidding teaching God's Word ? One of the ministry gifts is that of a teacher.(9) Forbidding listening to God's Word being preached in God's Power and in Truth ? No, but be careful who you receive instruction from.
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Post by John on Jul 15, 2019 10:47:28 GMT -5
Is there a purpose in asking these questions?
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Post by joseph on Jul 15, 2019 11:18:45 GMT -5
Is there a commandment/ instruction/ direction (1) Forbidding preachers/ teachers from tickling the listeners ears ? TODAY, are there such preachers/ teachers tickling ears ? (yes) (2) Forbidding God's people from listening to the ear ticklers ? TODAY, are there such people, listening to the ticklers ? (yes) (3) Forbidding propagating superneat, supernatural, new age, bogus teachings ? TODAY, are there such teachings propagated ? (yes) (4) Forbidding listening to superneat, supernatural, new age, bogus teachings ? TODAY, are people listening to such teachings ? (yes) (5) Forbidding studying the ways of other (gentile, pagan, worldly) nations-peoples ? TODAY, are people studying pagan ways ? (yes) (6) Forbidding studying God's Word ? TODAY, are people 'refusing' to study God's Word, because they prefer their 'favorite teacher(s)' ? (yes) (7) Forbidding reading God's Word ? TODAY, are there people not reading God's Word , spending time in ungodly activities instead ? (yes) (8) Forbidding teaching God's Word ? In God's Word, is there a warning to many NOT to be teachers ? (yes) (9) Forbidding listening to God's Word being preached in God's Power and in Truth ? TODAY, are cult members told NOT to listen to the true teachers of God's Word ? (yes) Today, are people keeping God's commandments or not ?
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Post by joseph on Jul 15, 2019 11:35:09 GMT -5
pertinent excerpt from recent post in another thread: Jun 25, 2019 8:10:42 GMT -5 watchful said: The church and truth has been under such heavy assault from the beginning.........amazing and wonderful how Jesus said the gates of hell will not prevail against His church, in spite of it all! I really wonder if what is happening in churches now is a separation of wheat from tares and judgment beginning with His house....the churches in the west seem to be past the point of no return now, so probably the next step is to bring some much-needed chastisements. Warnings have fallen on deaf ears and they are not turning around.
It can be a fine line sometimes between discerning evil, and thinking evil of no one. We are not wrestling against flesh and blood but against powers and principalities, spiritual wickedness in high places, so I have tended to think in terms that most who are leading people stray are themselves deceived and captives of the devil to do his will. They know not what spirit they are of. Though that changes nothing about the need for bringing correction and discipline to bear when it is appropriate, and leave God to judge people's motivations in general, unless He specifically exposes someone's involvement with a coven or new age group, etc.
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Post by John on Jul 15, 2019 13:36:15 GMT -5
A lot of them don't know they are false, but many do. I don't call someone a new age teacher unless I see it in their doctrine. Unless someone admits it, I don't know how you can assume they are into witchcraft and part of a coven. What are you trying to get us to see?
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Post by joseph on Jul 15, 2019 14:38:46 GMT -5
A lot of them don't know they are false, but many do. I don't call someone a new age teacher unless I see it in their doctrine. Unless someone admits it, I don't know how you can assume they are into witchcraft and part of a coven. What are you trying to get us to see?
What is Yahuweh (Almighty Sovereign Creator and Savior) revealing ? (do NOT assume ANYTHING)
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Post by John on Jul 15, 2019 14:46:35 GMT -5
A lot of them don't know they are false, but many do. I don't call someone a new age teacher unless I see it in their doctrine. Unless someone admits it, I don't know how you can assume they are into witchcraft and part of a coven. What are you trying to get us to see?
What is Yahuweh (Almighty Sovereign Creator and Savior) revealing ? (do NOT assume ANYTHING) If I would have made an assumption, I wouldn't have bothered to ask you.
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Post by joseph on Jul 15, 2019 14:52:15 GMT -5
What is Yahuweh (Almighty Sovereign Creator and Savior) revealing ? (do NOT assume ANYTHING) If I would have made an assumption, I wouldn't have bothered to ask you.
You posted something about not seeing , about assuming something ...... I agree - make no assumptions.
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Post by John on Jul 15, 2019 14:59:09 GMT -5
If I would have made an assumption, I wouldn't have bothered to ask you.
You posted something about not seeing , about assuming something ...... I agree - make no assumptions. I said you can't assume a person is into witchcraft and part of a coven. Was somebody doing that? If they were, I overlooked it.
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Post by joseph on Jul 15, 2019 15:02:16 GMT -5
You posted something about not seeing , about assuming something ...... I agree - make no assumptions. I said you can't assume a person is into witchcraft and part of a coven. Was somebody doing that? If they were, I overlooked it.
I don't know of anyone who was assuming that.
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Post by John on Jul 15, 2019 15:17:43 GMT -5
I said you can't assume a person is into witchcraft and part of a coven. Was somebody doing that? If they were, I overlooked it.
I don't know of anyone who was assuming that. Okay.
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Post by Cletus on Jul 15, 2019 18:24:08 GMT -5
God will judge us by our words no... by every word we speak... and by our actions as in everything we do.
God will hold those who preach to a higher standard. when we preach something false and it leads others astray God will not say, oh it is ok. He will hold you accountable.
you go mixing the truth with a lie... now whats the difference in that and how the enemy tempts us... even how he tempted Jesus?
we are to not profane God's word. and God will not at all acquit the wicked.
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