Dezi
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Post by Dezi on Jul 8, 2019 12:15:30 GMT -5
What do you all think about the Ministers who preach that we can all be healed if we just believe? Like Andrew Wommack? I know some people who cling to everything he says. Is it Biblical to just go around quoting scripture and trying to build up your spirit man to manifest what has already been done?
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Post by joseph on Jul 8, 2019 12:22:20 GMT -5
What do you all think about the Ministers who preach that we can all be healed if we just believe? Like Andrew Wommack? I know some people who cling to everything he says. Is this biblical? Jesus and His followers did not act that way. When the Father directed, yes, they healed those who were sick. And they also cast out demons everywhere they went ... OTHER PEOPLE reported this, they did not "advertise" themselves nor promote themselves. Healing is usually easy when people do what is right. It is often not legal , but otherwise it is usually simple. Finding out what is right is often difficult. Deliverance (from demonic deceptions of any kind, and oppression) is more difficult because it involves more of a life change, deeper change, often of things hidden.
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Post by 2fw8212a on Jul 8, 2019 13:41:50 GMT -5
What do you all think about the Ministers who preach that we can all be healed if we just believe? “...If you can believe, all things are possible to him who believes.” - Mark 9:23
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Post by John on Jul 10, 2019 10:02:15 GMT -5
I have never listened to Andrew Wommack. When it comes to healing, like any other topic, we should stand on whatever the Bible says. Don't add to it or take away from scripture.
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Post by joseph on Jul 10, 2019 13:16:14 GMT -5
I have never listened to Andrew Wommack. When it comes to healing, like any other topic, we should stand on whatever the Bible says. Don't add to it or take away from scripture.
Good... .... .... Some or many posts have been seeking what the Bible says, what is in line with the Bible, how someone could seek to be healed, or why they are not healed, or why someone , why so many people , get sick ..... Who here knows anyone who has healed over 99% of the people who went to them for healing ? (there is only one I know of in the last 80 years; although Smith Wigglesworth may also be one, I don't remember ever seeing any statistics for him- some of the healings were very remarkable and that he healed many was well known) ....
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Post by John on Jul 10, 2019 13:25:07 GMT -5
I have never listened to Andrew Wommack. When it comes to healing, like any other topic, we should stand on whatever the Bible says. Don't add to it or take away from scripture.
Good... .... .... Some or many posts have been seeking what the Bible says, what is in line with the Bible, how someone could seek to be healed, or why they are not healed, or why someone , why so many people , get sick ..... Who here knows anyone who has healed over 99% of the people who went to them for healing ? (there is only one I know of in the last 80 years; although Smith Wigglesworth may also be one, I don't remember ever seeing any statistics for him- some of the healings were very remarkable and that he healed many was well known) .... That kind of thing is hard to measure. I have seen sick people healed, but I don't know the success rate for individual ministers. I also know some are fakes.
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Post by joseph on Jul 10, 2019 13:32:07 GMT -5
Good... .... .... Some or many posts have been seeking what the Bible says, what is in line with the Bible, how someone could seek to be healed, or why they are not healed, or why someone , why so many people , get sick ..... Who here knows anyone who has healed over 99% of the people who went to them for healing ? (there is only one I know of in the last 80 years; although Smith Wigglesworth may also be one, I don't remember ever seeing any statistics for him- some of the healings were very remarkable and that he healed many was well known) .... That kind of thing is hard to measure. I have seen sick people healed, but I don't know the success rate for individual ministers. I also know some are fakes.
I'm not sure about 'measuring' ..... when we needed healing, we were constantly seeking, all the time, for a way to be healed. Ministers were no help - they hindered us a lot as none of them were healing anyone nor were any we found helping anyone to be healed. There were a few who did what they could to help.... but not regarding "healing" - some very strongly rejected any faith healing possibility, and most had no confidence in faith healing. (their lives and congregations also showed this - a lack of faith in their living; while continuing to live as the world does, by the world's standards) .....
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Post by John on Jul 10, 2019 13:42:32 GMT -5
The Bible tells people who are sick to call for the elders of the church to come and anoint them with oil and pray for them. You rarely if ever see anyone practicing that.
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PG4Him
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Post by PG4Him on Jul 10, 2019 13:50:48 GMT -5
The Bible tells people who are sick to call for the elders of the church to come and anoint them with oil and pray for them. You rarely if ever see anyone practicing that.
The elders are sick and feeble themselves.
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Post by John on Jul 10, 2019 14:00:36 GMT -5
The Bible tells people who are sick to call for the elders of the church to come and anoint them with oil and pray for them. You rarely if ever see anyone practicing that.
The elders are sick and feeble themselves. When you can find any.
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Post by joseph on Jul 10, 2019 14:33:30 GMT -5
Good... .... .... Some or many posts have been seeking what the Bible says, what is in line with the Bible, how someone could seek to be healed, or why they are not healed, or why someone , why so many people , get sick ..... Who here knows anyone who has healed over 99% of the people who went to them for healing ? (there is only one I know of in the last 80 years; although Smith Wigglesworth may also be one, I don't remember ever seeing any statistics for him- some of the healings were very remarkable and that he healed many was well known) .... That kind of thing is hard to measure. I have seen sick people healed, but I don't know the success rate for individual ministers. I also know some are fakes.
It seems 'bizarre' almost beyond belief that the 'success rate' for ministers, and for doctors, is a NEGATIVE NUMBER !? i.e. most ministers and most doctors make more people sick/ ill/ unhealthy ! So finding even just one who uplifts and heals people (spirit and body) is quite a challenge TODAY. (it took us seven years to find a reliable one, although a few we visited might have been doing well, we just did not have time to stay with them)
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