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Post by justinadams on Jul 17, 2019 6:13:09 GMT -5
Well I ask because I fell in love with Jesus at a young age but I got into deep sin later after I didn't totally have an understanding of Him. I didn't go very deep into his Word. So, when I was put on Psych meds for anxiety I feel like they changed me and I could not "feel" the Lord anymore. I totally lost who I was and didn't seem to care. If you can, stay away from shrinks and their medications. But mostly, have nothing to with their philosophy. I have been there and know this for sure.
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Post by justinadams on Jul 17, 2019 6:17:39 GMT -5
So, what if someone falls away from God. Does He take them back if they repent? Even if they knew what they were doing was wrong? Jude 1:24 24 Now unto him that is able to keep you from falling, and to present you faultless before the presence of his glory with exceeding joy, 25 To the only wise God our Saviour, be glory and majesty, dominion and power, both now and ever. Amen.
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Dezi
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Post by Dezi on Jul 17, 2019 10:20:39 GMT -5
I can relate to this--- periods of sin, not being able to feel God because of medication. Right now it's alright--- I've figured out some meds I won't take and others I tolerate. I can still feel God's presence, although not as intensely as before. But I understand the frustration. We walk by faith and not feelings. God is with us even in those times we don't feel anything.
When I say I could not "feel" the Lord. I don't mean I couldn't get those ooey gooey feelings about God. I mean you don't even feel what you are doing is wrong if it's wrong... like NO conviction from the Holy Spirit. Psych drugs are known for affecting the part of the brain that is spiritual.
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Post by John on Jul 17, 2019 10:35:01 GMT -5
We walk by faith and not feelings. God is with us even in those times we don't feel anything.
When I say I could not "feel" the Lord. I don't mean I couldn't get those ooey gooey feelings about God. I mean you don't even feel what you are doing is wrong if it's wrong... like NO conviction from the Holy Spirit. Psych drugs are known for affecting the part of the brain that is spiritual. Thanks for explaining that. That is beyond what I thought you meant.
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Post by joseph on Jul 17, 2019 14:09:33 GMT -5
Well I ask because I fell in love with Jesus at a young age but I got into deep sin later after I didn't totally have an understanding of Him. I didn't go very deep into his Word. So, when I was put on Psych meds for anxiety I feel like they changed me and I could not "feel" the Lord anymore. I totally lost who I was and didn't seem to care. If you can, stay away from shrinks and their medications. But mostly, have nothing to with their philosophy. I have been there and know this for sure. (I think) Scientists and Doctors, etc, have claimed that the medications are supposed to change various levels in the brain or body or both, of various naturally occurring substances, or to effect change in the process, IN ORDER TO CHANGE SYMPTOMS ...... (practically never to deal with the cause) .... Be ENCOURAGED! ---- OTHER Scientists and OTHER Doctors, who stand up for what is truth and what is right, have learned HOW to deal with the cause, instead of just treating the symptoms, and thus they are able (almost all the time, if not always), to correct what is wrong in the mind/ brain/ body WITHOUT DRUGS..... Note: TEST TEST TEST and MORE TESTING ...... the TESTING is 'simple', but is not 'authorized' under pharmakeia in the usa. Test to find out what is out of balance, what is present that is toxic (including all drugs), and what is lacking that is needed. When everything is RESTORED to 'NORMAL' (or within correct limits) , the need for drugs is (almost always) gone.
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Post by joseph on Jul 17, 2019 14:34:45 GMT -5
So, what if someone falls away from God. Does He take them back if they repent? Even if they knew what they were doing was wrong? I believe so. The thing is, if a person departs from following the Lord, and they refuse correction and the tug of the Holy Spirit, eventually God will stop dealing with that person, and they won't desire to return and it will be too late. So long as a person desires to return, they can.
Hebrews 12:17 For you know that afterward, when he wanted to ... [Search domain biblehub.com/hebrews/12-17.htm] biblehub.com/hebrews/12-17.htmFor you know that even afterwards, when he desired to inherit the blessing, he was rejected, for he found no place for repentance, though he sought for it with tears. Jubilee Bible 2000 For ye know how that afterward, desiring to inherit the blessing, he was rejected; for he found no place of repentance, though he sought it carefully with tears.The Real Repentance Esau Couldn't Get | In The Last Hour [Search domain inthelasthour.com/the-real-repentance-esau-couldnt-get/] inthelasthour.com/the-real-repentance-esau-couldnt-get/"[See to it] that there be no immoral or godless person like Esau, who sold his own birthright for a single meal. For you know that even afterwards, when he desired to inherit the blessing, he was rejected, for he found no place for repentance, though he sought for it with tears."
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Post by joseph on Jul 17, 2019 14:43:19 GMT -5
So, what if someone falls away from God. Does He take them back if they repent? Even if they knew what they were doing was wrong? Did they "taste of the heavenlies" ? Did they "trample underfoot" His Graciousness ? As written, sometimes God lets someone repent. Sometimes not. When ? See in Scripture.
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Post by 2fw8212a on Jul 17, 2019 15:05:53 GMT -5
The spirit behind this "salvation not by works" talk attacks precisely believers who want to please God in their manner of living.
It is a deceiving spirit that will try to make believers feel condemned if they walk in the Spirit (and consequently overcoming their sinful nature).
It will work to stop spiritual development of believers or, if possible, make them walk like unbelievers.
“But you have not so learned Christ, if indeed you have heard Him and have been taught by Him,
as the truth is in Jesus: that you put off, concerning your former conduct, the old man which grows corrupt
according to the deceitful lusts, and be renewed in the spirit of your mind, and that you put on the new man which was
created according to God, in true righteousness and holiness.” - Ephesians 4:20-24
“Little children, let no one deceive you.
He who practices righteousness is righteous, just as He is righteous.” - 1 John 3:7
“For this is the will of God, your sanctification:
that you should abstain from sexual immorality; that each of you should know how to
possess his own vessel in sanctification and honor...” - 1 Thessalonians 4:3-4
Blessings!
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Post by joseph on Jul 17, 2019 15:15:58 GMT -5
excerpt from the well-known "The Flesh and Salvation
"The Spiritual Man, CFP, Vol. 1, Part 2 THE FLESH, Ch. 1, by Watchman Nee"
... ... ... "God’s life is absolute; it must gain complete mastery over the man. As soon as that life enters the human spirit it requires the man to leave his former master of sin and to be subject entirely to the Holy Spirit. Even so, sin in this particular man is deeply rooted. Although his will is being renewed in part through the regenerated life, it is still tied to sin and self; on many occasions it bends towards sin. Inevitably great conflict will erupt between the new life and the flesh. Since people in this condition are numerous, we shall pay special attention to them. Let me remind my reader, however, that this experience of prolonged struggle and failure with sin (different from that with self) is unnecessary.
The flesh demands full sovereignty; so does the spiritual life. The flesh desires to have man forever attached to itself; while the spiritual life wants to have man completely subject to the Holy Spirit. At all points the flesh and spiritual life differ. The nature of the former is that of the first Adam, the nature of the latter belongs to the last Adam. The motive of the first is earthly; that of the second, heavenly. The flesh focuses all things upon self; spiritual life centers all upon Christ. The flesh wishes to lead man to sin, but spiritual life longs to lead him to righteousness. Since these two are so essentially contrary, how can a person avoid clashing continually with the flesh? Not realizing the full salvation of Christ, a believer constantly experiences such a struggle.
When young believers fall into such conflict they are dumbfounded. Some despair of spiritual growth thinking they are just too bad. Others begin to doubt they are genuinely regenerated, not aware that regeneration itself brings in this contention." ... ... ... ...
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Post by frienduff on Jul 22, 2019 18:59:00 GMT -5
And not one saying of His is grievious , ITS ALL JOY to those who LOVE HIM . That's right . NOW put those hands up everyone , We gonna PRAISE THE LORD . Thanks for the good reminders .
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Post by Cletus on Jul 22, 2019 19:13:27 GMT -5
Well I ask because I fell in love with Jesus at a young age but I got into deep sin later after I didn't totally have an understanding of Him. I didn't go very deep into his Word. So, when I was put on Psych meds for anxiety I feel like they changed me and I could not "feel" the Lord anymore. I totally lost who I was and didn't seem to care. Isa 49:15 Can a woman forget her sucking child, that she should not have compassion on the son of her womb? yea, they may forget, yet will I not forget thee. Isa 49:16 Behold, I have graven thee upon the palms of my hands; thy walls are continually before me.
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