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Post by frienduff on Apr 12, 2018 19:43:38 GMT -5
For I fear , lest , when I come , I shall not find you such as I would want to and that I shall be found unto you as you would not want , lest their be debates , strifes , envyings , wraths , , backbitings , whisperings , swellings and tumults and lest , when I come again , my God will humble me among you and that I shall BEWAIL many which have sinned already , and have NOT repented of the Uncleanliness, and fornication and lasivciousness which they have commited. This is the Third time I am coming to you In the mouth of TWO or THREE witnesses (the pattern JESUS SET ) shall every word be established . I have told you before and now I fortell you , as if I were present , the second time , and being absent now I write to those who have Sinned and to all others , that if I come I will NOT SPARE . Since ye seek a proof of Christ Speaking IN ME , which to youward is no wak , but is mighty in you For though he was crucified through weakness , yet He lives by the power of God For we also are weak in Him , but we shall live with Him by the Power of God towards you. Examine your own selves , whether you are IN the Faith , Prove your own selves . Know ye not your own selves ,how that JESUS is in you, except you be Reprobates But I trust that you shall know that we are NOT reprobates . For we can do nothing AGAINST the TRUTH For we are glad when we are weak and you are strong , and this also We wish your Perfection. THEREFORE we write THESE THINGS being absent , LEST BEING present I should use SHARPNESS , according to the power which the Lord has given me to EDFICATION and not to destruction .
SOUNDS Like PAUL KNEW what was GOOD For the church . When is the last time leaders have been like that . So when they tell us we are wrong for exhorting , rebuking , correcting and reminding . WE are not the ones wrong . WE doing what the true ones BY the SPIRIT have always done .,
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Post by tlsitd on Apr 12, 2018 20:43:34 GMT -5
For I fear , lest , when I come , I shall not find you such as I would want to and that I shall be found unto you as you would not want , lest their be debates , strifes , envyings , wraths , , backbitings , whisperings , swellings and tumults and lest , when I come again , my God will humble me among you and that I shall BEWAIL many which have sinned already , and have NOT repented of the Uncleanliness, and fornication and lasivciousness which they have commited. This is the Third time I am coming to you In the mouth of TWO or THREE witnesses (the pattern JESUS SET ) shall every word be established . I have told you before and now I fortell you , as if I were present , the second time , and being absent now I write to those who have Sinned and to all others , that if I come I will NOT SPARE . Since ye seek a proof of Christ Speaking IN ME , which to youward is no wak , but is mighty in you For though he was crucified through weakness , yet He lives by the power of God For we also are weak in Him , but we shall live with Him by the Power of God towards you. Examine your own selves , whether you are IN the Faith , Prove your own selves . Know ye not your own selves ,how that JESUS is in you, except you be Reprobates But I trust that you shall know that we are NOT reprobates . For we can do nothing AGAINST the TRUTH For we are glad when we are weak and you are strong , and this also We wish your Perfection. THEREFORE we write THESE THINGS being absent , LEST BEING present I should use SHARPNESS , according to the power which the Lord has given me to EDFICATION and not to destruction .
SOUNDS Like PAUL KNEW what was GOOD For the church . When is the last time leaders have been like that . So when they tell us we are wrong for exhorting , rebuking , correcting and reminding . WE are not the ones wrong . WE doing what the true ones BY the SPIRIT have always done .,
Too many people confuse what feels good with what is good, and not offending people with loving them. (Note that when Paul wrote about not giving offense to Jews or Greeks or the churches of God, he meant not putting any unnecessary hindrance in the way of their receiving the gospel, or being built up in their faith (in the case of the churches), as those verses explain, in keeping with the rest of his epistle. He did not mean that he never said anything that might offend anyone.) Jesus offended people. And He still does, when they are on the wrong side of His words and are not keeping them. Just speak the truth in love and point people back to God's Word. They won't appreciate it, because they want to do Christianity their own way---just like the Jews were doing Judaism their own way, which Jesus rebuked them for (and they didn't appreciate God interfering with their religion!) But they won't be able to say they weren't warned.
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Post by 2fw8212a on Apr 12, 2018 21:05:22 GMT -5
Jesus offended people. And He still does, when they are on the wrong side of His words and are not keeping them. "...My mother and My brothers are these who hear the word of God and do it." - Luke 8:21
"And blessed is he who is not offended because of Me." - Matthew 11:6
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Post by Sister on Apr 13, 2018 10:37:20 GMT -5
For I fear , lest , when I come , I shall not find you such as I would want to and that I shall be found unto you as you would not want , lest their be debates , strifes , envyings , wraths , , backbitings , whisperings , swellings and tumults and lest , when I come again , my God will humble me among you and that I shall BEWAIL many which have sinned already , and have NOT repented of the Uncleanliness, and fornication and lasivciousness which they have commited. This is the Third time I am coming to you In the mouth of TWO or THREE witnesses (the pattern JESUS SET ) shall every word be established . I have told you before and now I fortell you , as if I were present , the second time , and being absent now I write to those who have Sinned and to all others , that if I come I will NOT SPARE . Since ye seek a proof of Christ Speaking IN ME , which to youward is no wak , but is mighty in you For though he was crucified through weakness , yet He lives by the power of God For we also are weak in Him , but we shall live with Him by the Power of God towards you. Examine your own selves , whether you are IN the Faith , Prove your own selves . Know ye not your own selves ,how that JESUS is in you, except you be Reprobates But I trust that you shall know that we are NOT reprobates . For we can do nothing AGAINST the TRUTH For we are glad when we are weak and you are strong , and this also We wish your Perfection. THEREFORE we write THESE THINGS being absent , LEST BEING present I should use SHARPNESS , according to the power which the Lord has given me to EDFICATION and not to destruction .
SOUNDS Like PAUL KNEW what was GOOD For the church . When is the last time leaders have been like that . So when they tell us we are wrong for exhorting , rebuking , correcting and reminding . WE are not the ones wrong . WE doing what the true ones BY the SPIRIT have always done .,
Very powerful. This is the type of preaching that I love and can never hear enough of.
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Post by frienduff on Apr 13, 2018 16:06:31 GMT -5
For I fear , lest , when I come , I shall not find you such as I would want to and that I shall be found unto you as you would not want , lest their be debates , strifes , envyings , wraths , , backbitings , whisperings , swellings and tumults and lest , when I come again , my God will humble me among you and that I shall BEWAIL many which have sinned already , and have NOT repented of the Uncleanliness, and fornication and lasivciousness which they have commited. This is the Third time I am coming to you In the mouth of TWO or THREE witnesses (the pattern JESUS SET ) shall every word be established . I have told you before and now I fortell you , as if I were present , the second time , and being absent now I write to those who have Sinned and to all others , that if I come I will NOT SPARE . Since ye seek a proof of Christ Speaking IN ME , which to youward is no wak , but is mighty in you For though he was crucified through weakness , yet He lives by the power of God For we also are weak in Him , but we shall live with Him by the Power of God towards you. Examine your own selves , whether you are IN the Faith , Prove your own selves . Know ye not your own selves ,how that JESUS is in you, except you be Reprobates But I trust that you shall know that we are NOT reprobates . For we can do nothing AGAINST the TRUTH For we are glad when we are weak and you are strong , and this also We wish your Perfection. THEREFORE we write THESE THINGS being absent , LEST BEING present I should use SHARPNESS , according to the power which the Lord has given me to EDFICATION and not to destruction .
SOUNDS Like PAUL KNEW what was GOOD For the church . When is the last time leaders have been like that . So when they tell us we are wrong for exhorting , rebuking , correcting and reminding . WE are not the ones wrong . WE doing what the true ones BY the SPIRIT have always done .,
Very powerful. This is the type of preaching that I love and can never hear enough of.
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Post by frienduff on Apr 13, 2018 16:07:13 GMT -5
That is right sister . We feast on the truth. Now shout out a praise sister . you loved , throw them hands up and praise the Lord .
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2018 16:22:02 GMT -5
Jesus offended people. And He still does, when they are on the wrong side of His words and are not keeping them. "...My mother and My brothers are these who hear the word of God and do it." - Luke 8:21
"And blessed is he who is not offended because of Me." - Matthew 11:6Jesus always said it like it was. He called the Pharisees, hypocrites! He called the scribes and Pharisees blind guides. He told them they were full of extortion and excess to their faces. He said to them, outwardly they appear righteous unto men, but within ye are full of hypocrisy and iniquity. No wonder they hated Him. John 2:13-15. 13, And the Jews' passover was at hand, and Jesus went up to Jerusalem, 14, And found in the temple those that sold oxen and sheep and doves, and the changers of money sitting: 15, And when he had made a scourge of small cords, he drove them all out of the temple, and the sheep, and the oxen; and poured out the changers' money, and overthrew the tables; Matt. 23:4 For they bind heavy burdens and grievous to be borne, and lay them on men's shoulders; but they themselves will not move them with one of their fingers. Matt 23:13-17. 13, But woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye shut up the kingdom of heaven against men: for ye neither go in yourselves, neither suffer ye them that are entering to go in. 14, Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye devour widows' houses, and for a pretence make long prayer: therefore ye shall receive the greater damnation. 15, Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, ye make him twofold more the child of hell than yourselves. 16, Woe unto you, ye blind guides, which say, Whosoever shall swear by the temple, it is nothing; but whosoever shall swear by the gold of the temple, he is a debtor! 17, Ye fools and blind: for whether is greater, the gold, or the temple that sanctifieth the gold? Matt. 23: 24-25. 24 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone. 24, Ye blind guides, which strain at a gnat, and swallow a camel. 25, Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye make clean the outside of the cup and of the platter, but within they are full of extortion and excess. Matt. 23:27-29. 27, Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye are like unto whited sepulchres, which indeed appear beautiful outward, but are within full of dead men's bones, and of all uncleanness. 28, Even so ye also outwardly appear righteous unto men, but within ye are full of hypocrisy and iniquity. 29, Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! because ye build the tombs of the prophets, and garnish the sepulchres of the righteous,
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Post by frienduff on Apr 13, 2018 16:28:34 GMT -5
"...My mother and My brothers are these who hear the word of God and do it." - Luke 8:21
"And blessed is he who is not offended because of Me." - Matthew 11:6 Jesus always said it like it was. He called the Pharisees, hypocrites! He called the scribes and Pharisees blind guides. He told them they were full of extortion and excess to their faces. He said to them, outwardly they appear righteous unto men, but within ye are full of hypocrisy and iniquity. No wonder they hated Him. John 2:13-15. 13, And the Jews' passover was at hand, and Jesus went up to Jerusalem, 14, And found in the temple those that sold oxen and sheep and doves, and the changers of money sitting: 15, And when he had made a scourge of small cords, he drove them all out of the temple, and the sheep, and the oxen; and poured out the changers' money, and overthrew the tables; Matt. 23:4 For they bind heavy burdens and grievous to be borne, and lay them on men's shoulders; but they themselves will not move them with one of their fingers. Matt 23:13-17. 13, But woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye shut up the kingdom of heaven against men: for ye neither go in yourselves, neither suffer ye them that are entering to go in. 14, Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye devour widows' houses, and for a pretence make long prayer: therefore ye shall receive the greater damnation. 15, Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, ye make him twofold more the child of hell than yourselves. 16, Woe unto you, ye blind guides, which say, Whosoever shall swear by the temple, it is nothing; but whosoever shall swear by the gold of the temple, he is a debtor! 17, Ye fools and blind: for whether is greater, the gold, or the temple that sanctifieth the gold? Matt. 23: 24-25. 24 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone. 24, Ye blind guides, which strain at a gnat, and swallow a camel. 25, Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye make clean the outside of the cup and of the platter, but within they are full of extortion and excess. Matt. 23:27-29. 27, Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye are like unto whited sepulchres, which indeed appear beautiful outward, but are within full of dead men's bones, and of all uncleanness. 28, Even so ye also outwardly appear righteous unto men, but within ye are full of hypocrisy and iniquity. 29, Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! because ye build the tombs of the prophets, and garnish the sepulchres of the righteous,
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Post by frienduff on Apr 13, 2018 16:30:34 GMT -5
Amen my brother . and we are going to feast on His saying , loving every drop of Truth which fills and fulfills our souls . Every Word of GOD is of wonderful beauty to the soul, from every warning to every promise , its just like feasting at a banquet that jus fills the soul with joy . SO SING it hazard. PROCLAIM ye the word of the LORD and let all who has ears REJIOCE in it .
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Post by John on Aug 9, 2019 19:52:35 GMT -5
Amen my brother . and we are going to feast on His saying , loving every drop of Truth which fills and fulfills our souls . Every Word of GOD is of wonderful beauty to the soul, from every warning to every promise , its just like feasting at a banquet that jus fills the soul with joy . SO SING it hazard. PROCLAIM ye the word of the LORD and let all who has ears REJIOCE in it . That is right Frienduff. By the grace of God, we will focus on all of the words of God. If we have to ignore portions of scripture, or have a dislike for portions of scripture, there is something wrong with us.
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Post by frienduff on Aug 10, 2019 5:40:28 GMT -5
Amen my brother . and we are going to feast on His saying , loving every drop of Truth which fills and fulfills our souls . Every Word of GOD is of wonderful beauty to the soul, from every warning to every promise , its just like feasting at a banquet that jus fills the soul with joy . SO SING it hazard. PROCLAIM ye the word of the LORD and let all who has ears REJIOCE in it . That is right Frienduff. By the grace of God, we will focus on all of the words of God. If we have to ignore portions of scripture, or have a dislike for portions of scripture, there is something wrong with us.
Feasting on the Word of the LORD is a bangquet to the soul , that nourishes every lamb who does hear and do , taking heed unto Our LORD does great good unto us and gives Him all honor . Taking not heed to every promise or every warning is but death to the soul and its sin is as the sin of witchcraft unto the LORD . OH , let all heed the SPIRIT and feast daily on the wonderous words that the Spirit has inspired in the Holy doctrine . Paul was right . The HOLY DOCTRINE truly does equip one to be prepared unto all good works , it reminds us of the things that God considers righteous and what HE considers evil . Let us not once follow the bad examples , but rather follow Christ , the Spirit and learn the good things and flee all appearance of evil . For it is written , BE YE HOLY FOR I AM HOLY . And as we all know , God will not be mocked , what we sow to , IS WHAT we reap . Let no man sow to the flesh but sow to the Spirit . Doing the things that Honor GOD by the SPIRIT . And let the praise of the LORD be continually upon our lips , giving thanks to His name for this pleases the LORD . Hands up and praise HE who has saved us and can keep us from falling . But if we heed not Him who speaks from heaven , WE WILL SURELY FALL and the end of those who rejected Christ is the second death . And even worse if one tasted , was made partaker , and then fell away by returning to the pit and being overcome in the pit .
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2019 10:15:13 GMT -5
The Corinthian church was apparently unruly and badly behaved at that time, so they needed a word like that. Goes to show that God certainly does give a strong word in season when it is needed, but it doesn't necessarily mean every word is needed by everyone at all times. For example we wouldn't hammer down a word like that and direct it to a person or group who are not engaged in backbiting, debates and strifes, fornication and lasciviousness etc, otherwise it would disquiet and discourage those who are walking well after the Lord. As long as we are keeping things in balance and avoid overemphasizing one aspect of the word or character of God over another. Pendulums have a way of swinging first one way, then another in an equal and opposite direction...the hard part is keeping it steady and immoveable in the middle. He the Lord changeth not.
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Post by frienduff on Aug 10, 2019 12:07:17 GMT -5
The Corinthian church was apparently unruly and badly behaved at that time, so they needed a word like that. Goes to show that God certainly does give a strong word in season when it is needed, but it doesn't necessarily mean every word is needed by everyone at all times. For example we wouldn't hammer down a word like that and direct it to a person or group who are not engaged in backbiting, debates and strifes, fornication and lasciviousness etc, otherwise it would disquiet and discourage those who are walking well after the Lord. As long as we are keeping things in balance and avoid overemphasizing one aspect of the word or character of God over another. Pendulums have a way of swinging first one way, then another in an equal and opposite direction...the hard part is keeping it steady and immoveable in the middle. He the Lord changeth not. Remebrance of day one . OH what a beauty . It don't matter how much I hear encouragement or grave warnings , I Just love it all . It just continuously keeps me sharp . OH let us rejoice in the LORD and in the LORD let us rejoice . For it is not grievous for me to write these things to you , it is needful to you . OH paul knew what was best for the church . Continual reminders both grave and encouraging always beholding both the severity and goodness of GOD . Put those hands up watchful . PUT THEM UP . AND PRAISE the HOLY LORD .
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Post by John on Aug 10, 2019 12:08:46 GMT -5
The Corinthian church was apparently unruly and badly behaved at that time, so they needed a word like that. Goes to show that God certainly does give a strong word in season when it is needed, but it doesn't necessarily mean every word is needed by everyone at all times. For example we wouldn't hammer down a word like that and direct it to a person or group who are not engaged in backbiting, debates and strifes, fornication and lasciviousness etc, otherwise it would disquiet and discourage those who are walking well after the Lord. As long as we are keeping things in balance and avoid overemphasizing one aspect of the word or character of God over another. Pendulums have a way of swinging first one way, then another in an equal and opposite direction...the hard part is keeping it steady and immoveable in the middle. He the Lord changeth not. I have mixed feelings about this. I do agree that one message after another that is nothing but judgment is not good, and I also believe that one message after another that is nothing but the love of Jesus is not good. I don't think it is wise to avoid preaching hard messages to a church that just happens to appear good at the time. You shouldn't wait till everyone falls into sin to preach against sin. In addition to that, there could be secret sins nobody is aware of. The best thing is to be in tune with God, and let him lead you in what to preach, but if you don't feel God has led you to a particular subject, we are told to preach the whole counsel of the Word of god.
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Post by frienduff on Aug 10, 2019 12:09:25 GMT -5
IN this day and age , specially as we are nearing the end , Our guard in no way , shape or fashion can we let down . And most folks I see in most places are walking in what they think is grace , yet full of sin and no repentance . Thus the SPIRIT will always UNCTION us on what to say and do , every day . HANDS UP every one . HANDS UP and praise the LORD .
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