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Post by frienduff on Apr 12, 2018 19:52:20 GMT -5
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Post by frienduff on Apr 12, 2018 20:49:24 GMT -5
AND LOOK WHO LEADS IT . ROME ROME ROME . And now why we think such a UNITY move is going on . With Kenny and scores of others .............all uniting us with ROME.
Still think this aint real. NOW you all know why I have been warning out against this monster. ITS A MONSTER IT IS all part OF THE LIE , the lie that, leades to ANTI CHRIST and worship of the beast . And it has morphed since that video . When I said we will look like monsters and haters , WE WILL. WELL amour up my peoples of the LORD . the world hated JESUS so it will us too.
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Post by John on Apr 12, 2018 20:58:21 GMT -5
Just got through watching it. It is very informative. I don't recognize the Pastor either, but he is a very good speaker. I might see if I can find any of the rest of his series on this subject. Regardless, I would highly recommend everyone take the time to watch this message.
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Post by tlsitd on Apr 13, 2018 10:09:47 GMT -5
I started watching it: The first part, with the different religious leaders and the pope was cringey; I didn't continue watching it because the preacher started out by saying that only people who reject Jesus Christ as their Savior are going to go through a seven year tribulation after the saints are raptured, and that simply isn't Scriptural or true; I'm sorry.
For one thing, the original seven years has been shortened by God to approximately 3 1/2; and for another thing, the rapture of the saints is after the tribulation and not before. Perhaps the preacher had some interesting things to say about the world-wide push for a united religion, but I already know that that's going on, and what the result of it will be.
Obedient Christians (who are actually born again) won't be caught up in the worship of the antichrist, which all this religious unity business is leading up to. Disobedient Christians, however, WILL take the mark and worship the beast, but not because they will be deceived about it. It will be an act of rebellion---a willful, knowledgeable, defiant sin, just like Adam's was.
Anyway, suffice it to say, ALL the saints are going to go through the tribulation, not just disobedient ones, and not just the unsaved. (The 144,000 Jews who will be saved just before the tribulation starts will be supernaturally protected by God in a predetermined location in the land of Israel during that time, while the rest of the Christians are being persecuted). The Lord is not going to return until the last day of the tribulation, which will be approximately 3 1/2 years after it begins. And you'll know it has begun when the antichrist's mark and worship are implemented and instituted and the judgments of God begin falling on the earth.
Much as I would like to be able to say a good word about this preacher---and he may have gone on to give some interesting insights into the religious unity movement and agenda, he's incorrect about this teaching, and a false teaching is a false teaching. It's not doing Christians any favors to tell them they're not going to be here for the tribulation when they most certainly are, and to get them all excited and hopeful about a pre-tribulation rapture that isn't going to happen. I don't care how many people believe in it, it's not going to happen as they think it is; and what kind of Christian would I be to tell them that it is? I'd rather burst their bubble and make them unhappy with me for telling them the truth and how to prepare themselves for what is coming than go along with a false teaching to make them feel good about something that isn't true and not prepare them.
That said, I think it is highly likely that the false prophet will be a pope, or a pope-like figure in the one world religion, whatever offices or titles it may have.
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Post by John on Apr 13, 2018 12:23:25 GMT -5
I loved the message, but I also believe in a pre-tribulation rapture. John 21:34-36 says...
"And take heed to yourselves, lest at any time your hearts be overcharged with surfeiting, and drunkenness, and cares of this life, and so that day come upon you unawares. For as a snare shall it come on all them that dwell on the face of the whole earth. Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man."
We are not told to pray we survive, but that we escape. I believe Jesus will come for the faithful and take them to heaven before the tribulation begins, and we will be standing before the Son of man while the earth experiences the anti-Christ ad the plagues. The sinners and lukewarm church will remain for the tribulation.
As for the message, it was filled with information about the inter-faith movement, and was worth watching for that alone, even if you reject a pre-tribulation rapture.
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Post by frienduff on Apr 13, 2018 16:10:28 GMT -5
I started watching it: The first part, with the different religious leaders and the pope was cringey; I didn't continue watching it because the preacher started out by saying that only people who reject Jesus Christ as their Savior are going to go through a seven year tribulation after the saints are raptured, and that simply isn't Scriptural or true; I'm sorry. For one thing, the original seven years has been shortened by God to approximately 3 1/2; and for another thing, the rapture of the saints is after the tribulation and not before. Perhaps the preacher had some interesting things to say about the world-wide push for a united religion, but I already know that that's going on, and what the result of it will be. Obedient Christians (who are actually born again) won't be caught up in the worship of the antichrist, which all this religious unity business is leading up to. Disobedient Christians, however, WILL take the mark and worship the beast, but not because they will be deceived about it. It will be an act of rebellion---a willful, knowledgeable, defiant sin, just like Adam's was. Anyway, suffice it to say, ALL the saints are going to go through the tribulation, not just disobedient ones, and not just the unsaved. (The 144,000 Jews who will be saved just before the tribulation starts will be supernaturally protected by God in a predetermined location in the land of Israel during that time, while the rest of the Christians are being persecuted). The Lord is not going to return until the last day of the tribulation, which will be approximately 3 1/2 years after it begins. And you'll know it has begun when the antichrist's mark and worship are implemented and instituted and the judgments of God begin falling on the earth. Much as I would like to be able to say a good word about this preacher---and he may have gone on to give some interesting insights into the religious unity movement and agenda, he's incorrect about this teaching, and a false teaching is a false teaching. It's not doing Christians any favors to tell them they're not going to be here for the tribulation when they most certainly are, and to get them all excited and hopeful about a pre-tribulation rapture that isn't going to happen. I don't care how many people believe in it, it's not going to happen as they think it is; and what kind of Christian would I be to tell them that it is? I'd rather burst their bubble and make them unhappy with me for telling them the truth and how to prepare themselves for what is coming than go along with a false teaching to make them feel good about something that isn't true and not prepare them. That said, I think it is highly likely that the false prophet will be a pope, or a pope-like figure in the one world religion, whatever offices or titles it may have.
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Post by frienduff on Apr 13, 2018 16:11:33 GMT -5
Sister. I fully agree that we go through tribulation . we do . but just watch the information part of it . I don't agree with his pretrib view either . but the thing is packed with loads of info.
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Post by frienduff on Apr 13, 2018 16:12:46 GMT -5
I loved the message, but I also believe in a pre-tribulation rapture. John 21:34-36 says... "And take heed to yourselves, lest at any time your hearts be overcharged with surfeiting, and drunkenness, and cares of this life, and so that day come upon you unawares. For as a snare shall it come on all them that dwell on the face of the whole earth. Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man." We are not told to pray we survive, but that we escape. I believe Jesus will come for the faithful and take them to heaven before the tribulation begins, and we will be standing before the Son of man while the earth experiences the anti-Christ ad the plagues. The sinners and lukewarm church will remain for the tribulation. As for the message, it was filled with information about the inter-faith movement, and was worth watching for that alone, even if you reject a pre-tribulation rapture.
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Post by frienduff on Apr 13, 2018 16:17:01 GMT -5
Their are other videos too. I warn us all, that many will be deceived into taking that mark. This whole one world religion and one world govt thing ITS all about chipping the people . IT WILL happen. What we have to truly know IS THIS . our body is not our own . And we wont tie it into that beast system . I warn us all we will see the leaders of churches start pushing the agenda for either a chip or tattoe like device . ITS all part of that agenda as well. So no matter what you believe concering pre trib or etc, DO Not take this thing butero. Our body our temple IS GODS not even ours . And I am not putting the whores love ring in my flesh . Many will due to they will not see this for what it is , many will believe we should have been raptured out and they will justify taking this thing . DO NOT . DO NOT . its wicked evil to tie our bodies , no wait GODS temples into that beast system . you loved butero. You are .
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Post by Deleted on Apr 14, 2018 22:11:02 GMT -5
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Post by John on Apr 19, 2018 15:20:41 GMT -5
As I have stated before, I do believe in a rapture for faithful Christians with oil in their lamps before the tribulation. I have no issue over a pre-trib rapture, but I do not agree that all Jews are cut off until then anymore than that all gentile nations are saved. It is true that the message of the gospel has gone primarily to gentile nations, but there has always been a saved remnant of believers who are natural Israel. For his doctrine to be right, all natural born Jews cannot be saved during this age, and all gentiles in the natural will be raptured out before the tribulation because the tribulation is only for the Jewish nation. Is it possible I am misunderstanding his teachings? How do you see it?
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