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Post by frienduff on Aug 26, 2019 13:27:27 GMT -5
Personally myself, I always heard that the Brownsville revival was false, but just never really looked into it, so I cannot say much on the subject, since I know not much about it, but nevertheless, when God moves it truly brings in a good change, and it brings in biblical truths. I all want is more of Jesus, and less of me, and when I know something is false, you guys know I am not afraid to say so. For myself, I will not endorse something I know not much about. And in this post, I wanted to show some things that was mentioned in one of David Wilkerson's preaches, and things mentioned in his son's book. From reading Gary's book, he seems to often puts somewhat of a negative spin on when his father spoke against certain movements. I wrote to him, so to see what his view was on ecumenical stuff, and I believe a bit on the seeker sensitive movement. I did not get an answer, and could not find any message of him speaking against the ecumenical movement or even seeker sensitive stuff. I did find a post of someone who went to their assembly, and does not want to go back, he seems to find it somewhat seeker sensitive, and some of the music (maybe not all) seems to be off the mark, and seems to be wild in some form. Pray for Gary, because to me there seems to be a wrong direction there. GOOD EYE GILLER . PRAISE THE LORD . WE want NOTHING to do with this ecumenical movement , no seeker friendly , no all inclusive . It seems that even in churches that were even at least pretty solid , EVEN IN THOSE the next generation rising up , IS TANKED MAN . I believe GOD called us out of certain places for GOOD REASON MAN . Total delusions will strike and have been . I would not be surprised at all , it churches , TRUE ONES become house churches and even meeting in caves and dens and such . GOD KNOWS HOW to get his people BACK IN LINE . and most will go under the falling away . Giller its bad in my town . REAL bad . I went to big , small , you name it , churches , and they are INFECTED with this stuff . SOME worse than others , BUT THEY ALL , not some , ALL INFECTED . Rick warren , Daniel plan , IT took over man . IT TOOK OVER .
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Post by John on Aug 26, 2019 13:38:12 GMT -5
I had a chance to look at the material. The David Wilkerson accident? We will never know why he hit that truck, but it looks like an accident or suicide, not murder. The article about the attempt to unite all churches with the RCC was worth reading. The pull to unite will only increase. Beware! Whether that man was murdered by Rome isn't as important as the need to reject these calls to unity. There is a lot more wrong with the RCC besides the way they view works.
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Post by frienduff on Aug 26, 2019 13:44:26 GMT -5
I had a chance to look at the material. The David Wilkerson accident? We will never know why he hit that truck, but it looks like an accident or suicide, not murder. The article about the attempt to unite all churches with the RCC was worth reading. The pull to unite will only increase. Beware! Whether that man was murdered by Rome isn't as important as the need to reject these calls to unity. There is a lot more wrong with the RCC besides the way they view works.
Absolutely RIGHT . Hands up and let all praise the LORD . And what I say to one of us , I say to all of us , HANDS UP AND PRAISE THE LORD . This is right butero . WE need to have nothing to do with anything that includes Rome or any all inclusive unity hog wash . The thing is folks have to understand that any leader that gets caught up with this stuff or those who endorse it , SOMETHING has went wrong . So we need to not only test what any leader teaches , YOU examine who he is associated with . We gonna find this problem is way more infected and connected in almost all churches .
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Post by frienduff on Aug 26, 2019 13:48:54 GMT -5
Let every man and woman heed this . WHY DO WE REALLY THINK their is such a unity move amongst all churches now . Why has the language and the focus become on unity , because I tell us all there is a spirit at work to unite anything and everything RIGHT TO the beast . NOW , we already have unity IN JESUS . IF WE LOVE HIM , Which means we love THEM SAYINGS and TRUTH , THEN WE HAVE UNITY , THE RIGHT KIND . But watch out , because this unity starts very seductive , I TELL US all it could deceive even the elect if that were possible . And it can catch many a lamb off guard . I watched a well known lamb GET TRICKED . ITS BAD STUFF MAN . and the spirit behind it KNOWS how to allure and deceive . SO if any is n churches and you notice week by week the call for unity is increasing , YOU BETTER WATCH OUT . YOU BETTER WATCH OUT because a false seductive UNTIY is all over the place now .
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Post by John on Aug 26, 2019 14:37:07 GMT -5
Let every man and woman heed this . WHY DO WE REALLY THINK their is such a unity move amongst all churches now . Why has the language and the focus become on unity , because I tell us all there is a spirit at work to unite anything and everything RIGHT TO the beast . NOW , we already have unity IN JESUS . IF WE LOVE HIM , Which means we love THEM SAYINGS and TRUTH , THEN WE HAVE UNITY , THE RIGHT KIND . But watch out , because this unity starts very seductive , I TELL US all it could deceive even the elect if that were possible . And it can catch many a lamb off guard . I watched a well known lamb GET TRICKED . ITS BAD STUFF MAN . and the spirit behind it KNOWS how to allure and deceive . SO if any is n churches and you notice week by week the call for unity is increasing , YOU BETTER WATCH OUT . YOU BETTER WATCH OUT because a false seductive UNTIY is all over the place now . There is a spirit behind the movement. There are also logic based arguments pulling people towards it. People see the division that exists between all the protestant churches, and how nobody agrees on anything. They see all the church splits. They see the freak shows at what passes for church in some places. Then they consider that maybe it wasn't a good thing that the churches split from Rome? Maybe it was rebellion against the one Christian Church, and they start considering a return to the RCC. That was what made me look into it several years back, but the thing that saved me was knowledge of God's Word, and I could plainly see that the RCC is full of idol worship and paganism. Returning to that mess is not the solution. The solution is returning to the Bible and the Biblical order. Sadly, not everyone can see that.
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Post by frienduff on Aug 26, 2019 19:44:08 GMT -5
Let every man and woman heed this . WHY DO WE REALLY THINK their is such a unity move amongst all churches now . Why has the language and the focus become on unity , because I tell us all there is a spirit at work to unite anything and everything RIGHT TO the beast . NOW , we already have unity IN JESUS . IF WE LOVE HIM , Which means we love THEM SAYINGS and TRUTH , THEN WE HAVE UNITY , THE RIGHT KIND . But watch out , because this unity starts very seductive , I TELL US all it could deceive even the elect if that were possible . And it can catch many a lamb off guard . I watched a well known lamb GET TRICKED . ITS BAD STUFF MAN . and the spirit behind it KNOWS how to allure and deceive . SO if any is n churches and you notice week by week the call for unity is increasing , YOU BETTER WATCH OUT . YOU BETTER WATCH OUT because a false seductive UNTIY is all over the place now . There is a spirit behind the movement. There are also logic based arguments pulling people towards it. People see the division that exists between all the protestant churches, and how nobody agrees on anything. They see all the church splits. They see the freak shows at what passes for church in some places. Then they consider that maybe it wasn't a good thing that the churches split from Rome? Maybe it was rebellion against the one Christian Church, and they start considering a return to the RCC. That was what made me look into it several years back, but the thing that saved me was knowledge of God's Word, and I could plainly see that the RCC is full of idol worship and paganism. Returning to that mess is not the solution. The solution is returning to the Bible and the Biblical order. Sadly, not everyone can see that.
See how deceptive it is , this spirit is fast at work . And it will only get much worse and many many more will go under this and all will unite in time ahead . ALL CEPT the true lambs that Is . And that is who the world will hate above all things . The end gets real bad . BUT WE GOT ALL HOPE . IN PRISON we can sing , if we are beaten we can rejoice , and if we are killed , STILL all hope , for to be absent from the body IS to be present with the LORD . I had to cheer one up on worthy . They seemed a bit spooked so I flat out just said WHY MY HEART SINGS . George actually brought the post . Something about silicon valley adopting a system like the Chinese SOCIAL credit score . Yep . But anyway , HANDS UP AND PRAISE THE LORD .
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Post by Giller on Aug 26, 2019 20:57:51 GMT -5
Here is Gary Wilkerson's' account on his Dad's death:
(The cross, the switchblade, and the man who believed, David Wilkerson: by Gary Wilkerson with R.S.B Sawyer)
((page 294)"My parents had just been visiting with Debi and Roger at their home near Tyler when they decided to go for a drive. Dad had just gotten his license renewed, and as they drove along a two-lane highway not far from the Jonkers'home, the wreck took place. It happened as they crossed a bridge at the same time as an eighteen-wheeler, and their car drifted into the truck's lane. Miraculously, my mother survived. Dad did not....")
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Post by solid on Aug 27, 2019 10:34:19 GMT -5
Ok, solid, I got it sorta wrong, he did die in a car accident but was not hit while walking.... sorry, but still, many believe that it was a strange incident....me included He was a good preacher.
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