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Post by Giller on Sept 27, 2019 10:20:23 GMT -5
Mat 18:20 (20) For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them.
It is important that we seek his face together.
And yes we need overseers and so forth, but say for the moment, you do not have an overseer, does that mean the body of Christ should not gather together?
It does not say that unless you are gathered with a pastor I will not be there, but rather it says were 2 or 3 are gathered in my name, whatever two or three, there am I in the midst of them.
Now do not get me wrong, am I saying we do not need overseers, no, but you have to do with what you have, and the love of God is not dependent on who is there, but rather is independent of that, you love each other anyway.
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Post by Giller on Sept 27, 2019 10:23:22 GMT -5
And God never created this denominational church system, which is tied to the government. And here is something my Scottish pastor would say, that if he were to preach another gospel let him be anathema, and mark him. Paul said this: Gal 1:8 (8) But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. Paul as an apostle had a certain form of authority given to him by God, but the word of God was the greater authority. I don't believe God wants the church tied to the government, but I don't think church leaders are meaning to do wrong in accepting state recognition. It is just all they know. They fell into a trap. They saw it as necessary for legitimacy and for tax breaks.
Oh I understand that many may not mean to do wrong, and they fell into a trap, but nevertheless I will stick to the word.
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Post by John on Sept 27, 2019 10:29:57 GMT -5
Mat 18:20 (20) For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them. It is important that we seek his face together. And yes we need overseers and so forth, but say for the moment, you do not have an overseer, does that mean the body of Christ should not gather together? It does not say that unless you are gathered with a pastor I will not be there, but rather it says were 2 or 3 are gathered in my name, whatever two or three, there am I in the midst of them. Now do not get me wrong, am I saying we do not need overseers, no, but you have to do with what you have, and the love of God is not dependent on who is there, but rather is independent of that, you love each other anyway. I agree! We meet 3 times a week here in the live chat, and fellowship throughout the day in the forums. We don't forsake the assembling of ourselves together, and we have all felt God's presence during live prayer and Bible study even though we were in different geographic locations.
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Post by frienduff on Sept 27, 2019 13:16:52 GMT -5
I don't believe God wants the church tied to the government, but I don't think church leaders are meaning to do wrong in accepting state recognition. It is just all they know. They fell into a trap. They saw it as necessary for legitimacy and for tax breaks.
Oh I understand that many may not mean to do wrong, and they fell into a trap, but nevertheless I will stick to the word. That's right giller . STICK to the WORD and remain viligent . EVEN if the cost of it means having your head bashed in by a fullers club . That's right . Even it means one day we might be out on the street and folks surround us and stomp on us and bash our heads literally in , WE STAY THE COURSE . I AM that DETERMINED that I had rather be beat down put in prison and have lashes and then for ointment they rub heavy salt on my wounds , THAN For one second omit even one thing of truth . WE GOT ALL HOPE , HIS NAME IS JESUS , and LET ALL GO OUT FAITHFUL TO THE END .
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Post by frienduff on Sept 27, 2019 13:19:28 GMT -5
Mat 18:20 (20) For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them. It is important that we seek his face together. And yes we need overseers and so forth, but say for the moment, you do not have an overseer, does that mean the body of Christ should not gather together? It does not say that unless you are gathered with a pastor I will not be there, but rather it says were 2 or 3 are gathered in my name, whatever two or three, there am I in the midst of them. Now do not get me wrong, am I saying we do not need overseers, no, but you have to do with what you have, and the love of God is not dependent on who is there, but rather is independent of that, you love each other anyway. I agree! We meet 3 times a week here in the live chat, and fellowship throughout the day in the forums. We don't forsake the assembling of ourselves together, and we have all felt God's presence during live prayer and Bible study even though we were in different geographic locations.
Me thinks that is about to change . As in as the sponge gets squeezed more and more , Some of us will be meeting in person . Be ready and be willing to GO wherever the LORD does lead . Cause times will be changing only faster and much worse in the days ahead .
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Post by John on Sept 27, 2019 13:46:42 GMT -5
I agree! We meet 3 times a week here in the live chat, and fellowship throughout the day in the forums. We don't forsake the assembling of ourselves together, and we have all felt God's presence during live prayer and Bible study even though we were in different geographic locations.
Me thinks that is about to change . As in as the sponge gets squeezed more and more , Some of us will be meeting in person . Be ready and be willing to GO wherever the LORD does lead . Cause times will be changing only faster and much worse in the days ahead .
As crazy as what you said may sound to some, I believe you may turn out to be absolutely right.
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Post by frienduff on Sept 28, 2019 7:40:17 GMT -5
Well may all rejoice n the LORD and in the LORD rejoice always . By grace we must remain ever diligent to ensure that the original pattern and instruction is not only embraced faithfully but continual reminders daily about it must be kept . A door of upmost delusion has been opened and we must stay sharp in the pure biblical pattern first taught and kept faithfully by lambs through all generations .
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Post by frienduff on Sept 28, 2019 17:20:59 GMT -5
Theres a new big fat post on worthy . its part two of the journey to the celestial banquet . And they all gonna be exposed , whosoever , even hints at inclusive unity .
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Post by John on Sept 28, 2019 17:22:47 GMT -5
Theres a new big fat post on worthy . its part two of the journey to the celestial banquet . And they all gonna be exposed , whosoever , even hints at inclusive unity . Keep sounding the warning as long as that door remains open to you.
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Post by John on Sept 28, 2019 17:44:02 GMT -5
Theres a new big fat post on worthy . its part two of the journey to the celestial banquet . And they all gonna be exposed , whosoever , even hints at inclusive unity . There are some here that do not visit WCF, including me. I will on some occasions if I am looking into something, like with knohope, but for the most part, I don't go there. Your post may be helpful to someone who happens to read here.
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Post by frienduff on Sept 28, 2019 17:48:11 GMT -5
Theres a new big fat post on worthy . its part two of the journey to the celestial banquet . And they all gonna be exposed , whosoever , even hints at inclusive unity . There are some here that do not visit WCF, including me. I will on some occasions if I am looking into something, like with knohope, but for the most part, I don't go there. Your post may be helpful to someone who happens to read here.
Well, its here now . HANDS Up and PRAISE THE LORD .
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Post by John on Sept 28, 2019 17:49:44 GMT -5
There are some here that do not visit WCF, including me. I will on some occasions if I am looking into something, like with knohope, but for the most part, I don't go there. Your post may be helpful to someone who happens to read here.
Well, its here now . HANDS Up and PRAISE THE LORD . \o/ Thanks Frienduff.
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Post by John on Oct 3, 2019 6:57:13 GMT -5
Theres a new big fat post on worthy . its part two of the journey to the celestial banquet . And they all gonna be exposed , whosoever , even hints at inclusive unity . Was your post well received at WCF? I had been meaning to ask you about that.
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Post by frienduff on Oct 3, 2019 14:06:33 GMT -5
Theres a new big fat post on worthy . its part two of the journey to the celestial banquet . And they all gonna be exposed , whosoever , even hints at inclusive unity . Was your post well received at WCF? I had been meaning to ask you about that.
Yes . but only a very few responded . Now hands up , butero , HANDS UP AND PRAISE THE HOLY LORD .
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Post by John on Oct 3, 2019 14:10:55 GMT -5
Was your post well received at WCF? I had been meaning to ask you about that.
Yes . but only a very few responded . Now hands up , butero , HANDS UP AND PRAISE THE HOLY LORD . At least some are listening!
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