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Post by joseph on Dec 2, 2020 18:05:51 GMT -5
RE Remnant
Certainly the Remnant was, (always) , is, and will be, those who very seriously obey.
(I don't know what the op is here - was searching for "Remnant" thru the forum)
Jesus isn't going to club people over the head with a metal stick to force them to obey Him.....and rule the way kings of the earth rule. NO.....we need to get our thoughts higher. His ways are not man's ways and NEVER WILL BE. Rod of iron is talking about the scepter of His rule/kingship....how it will be strong and unbending....mighty in the SPIRIT, not in the way of the flesh and politics. Isa 49:2 And he hath made my mouth like a sharp sword; in the shadow of his hand hath he hid me, and made me a polished shaft; in his quiver hath he hid me; Rev 1:16 And he had in his right hand seven stars: and out of his mouth went a sharp twoedged sword: and his countenance was as the sun shineth in his strength. Rev 19:15 And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God. Rev 19:21 And the remnant were slain with the sword of him that sat upon the horse, which sword proceeded out of his mouth: and all the fowls were filled with their flesh. I completely disagree on this. Jesus will absolutely demand obedience during that time. Even today we see examples like Ananias and Sapphira as well as Herod. The threat remains that disobedience has consequences.
Yes, very much consequences - very very much - when people are disobedient, as God Plans, Purposes, Designs, and Accomplishes.
If ever there is an "exception", it is God's Choice in His Sovereignty, as sometimes or frequently seen throughout Scripture - in examples where people without His Authority and without His Wisdom makes supercilious claims that someone lied, or stole, or committed adultery, and so on... as if to accuse God's Elect when God makes no mention of what they are claiming.
(supercilious might not be the word I was looking for/ I'm not sure exactly or generally the meaning fits.... will look into it later... God Willing) ....
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Post by joseph on Dec 2, 2020 18:10:44 GMT -5
That is a good question. When I first left the church system, I still had a lot of it's influence. I didn't realize it at the time, but I was making the mistake others had before me. I was trying to take what seemed to work and fix what didn't. Later on, I realized that this was the wrong way to approach things. We need to forget all about how churches operate today, and look to the Bible. We need to try to see how the early church did things, and start over using that model. I can't say for sure if I still have any of the system in me today, but I am striving to get it out if any remains.
(following bit by bit as if a rabbit trail.... or bread crumbs ? ) i.e. not sure of direction/ purpose, but this does fit today....
Yes, having still retained (false) parts of aspects of "the church system" is a plague today.
I don't remember ever seeing or knowing or referring to this (link/ work) before, but just saw some of it in the last hour or two >>
and other web-pages about the apostasy of the adventists following 1904/1905 (to be verified/ checked) as Ellen W. Said clearly would happen (and others also noted it) , and it happened just as she said.
Others possibly unrelated who noted it , concerning adventists or other groups, were Martin Luther, E.W.Bullinger, Leonard (something), David Wilkerson, Watchman Nee, Keith Green, and of course some of the Scriptures refers to it, thousands of years ago, as God knew all that would happen.....
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Post by frienduff on Dec 2, 2020 20:56:46 GMT -5
Mat 18:20 (20) For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them. It is important that we seek his face together. And yes we need overseers and so forth, but say for the moment, you do not have an overseer, does that mean the body of Christ should not gather together? It does not say that unless you are gathered with a pastor I will not be there, but rather it says were 2 or 3 are gathered in my name, whatever two or three, there am I in the midst of them. Now do not get me wrong, am I saying we do not need overseers, no, but you have to do with what you have, and the love of God is not dependent on who is there, but rather is independent of that, you love each other anyway. I agree! We meet 3 times a week here in the live chat, and fellowship throughout the day in the forums. We don't forsake the assembling of ourselves together, and we have all felt God's presence during live prayer and Bible study even though we were in different geographic locations.
And its time to FIRE IT back up again . Forward .........march my friend . You have been missed .
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Post by ohhello on Dec 3, 2020 13:16:25 GMT -5
The true lambs must look out for one another and stay away from the ecumenical false unity. We stick only by what the Bible says and our one and only hope, our Lord Jesus.
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Post by frienduff on Dec 3, 2020 18:28:42 GMT -5
The true lambs must look out for one another and stay away from the ecumenical false unity. We stick only by what the Bible says and our one and only hope, our Lord Jesus. YES INDEED DEAR SISTER . YES INDEED . No ecumenical false unity for the lambs . Just bibles and JESUS .
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Post by Tabitha3319 on Jan 8, 2021 20:35:45 GMT -5
I really enjoyed this whole thread. I took the time to read all of it.
I just wanted to say, is it the system that there's this popular idea that church is a "hospital for the sinners"?
As far as I understand, this may sound good but the Bible's pattern is that church is for the saints.
I this mindset can lead to pastors catering to carnal members of their congregation rather than those who simply want Jesus.
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Post by frienduff on Jan 9, 2021 9:24:25 GMT -5
I really enjoyed this whole thread. I took the time to read all of it. I just wanted to say, is it the system that there's this popular idea that church is a "hospital for the sinners"? As far as I understand, this may sound good but the Bible's pattern is that church is for the saints. I this mindset can lead to pastors catering to carnal members of their congregation rather than those who simply want Jesus. Lets examine this . Why would any lamb need a hospital for sin , WHEN JESUS HIMSELF frees us From sin , by his stripes we are healed . This other saying sounds very similiar to what you just said sister . Because take a look at seeker friendly . Do they not pander to CARNAL needs of the flesh . In fact that is where this saying came about from . And now many churches no longer even preach sound doctrine . They are too busy trying to feed carnal needs to keep people coming back . Man invented his own way to fish for men . WHEN if we desire to be fishers of men , WE ought to mirror the pattern JESUS Set and kept and later the apostels would keep and teach . JESUS made them fishers of men and the bait they used to draw men to God was not wordly bait . Wordly carnal bait catches only wordly carnal men and if its what they are fed it is what they remain .
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Post by frienduff on Jan 9, 2021 14:20:44 GMT -5
Francis also spoke about this week's violence on Capitol Hill in the interview with the station's Vatican expert Fabio Marchese Ragona.
"I was amazed, because the US population, which is so disciplined in democracy... But it is a reality, even in more mature realities there is always something wrong, something about people taking a path against the community, against democracy, against the common good.
"I thank God that this broke out and we could see it well, because this can be remedied, right?" Francis said in a preview clip seen by CNN, adding the violence "must be condemned."
Vatican says vaccine is 'morally acceptable' In December, the Vatican deemed that it was morally acceptable to be vaccinated against Covid-19, after some anti-abortion groups raised concerns about how the vaccines were manufactured.
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Post by frienduff on Jan 9, 2021 14:24:40 GMT -5
NOW why would a man of GOD , THANK GOD for the violence , and Just what DO YOU ALL THINK the REMEMDY IS GONNA BE . AND WHY would anti abortionist be against AGAINST HOW IT WAS MANUFACTURED . YEAH from an aborted baby . SOMETHING AINT RIGHT . I told us what their plans were . THEY doing just like hitler , and WE GONNA BE THE WORLDS scapegoats . Guess ol frienduff aint nigh as crazy as some folks might think . AND YEAH , DONT TAKE THIS NASTY DEMONIC SATANIC LUCIFERASE , SIX HUNDRED AND SIXTY SIX SHOT . SOMETHING AINT RIGHT MAN . Just the fact alone that it was manufactured from the cells of an aborted fetus , THIS LAMB NO TOUCHY THE DEMONIC THING . PEROID . My hands are clean . I have loved even my worst enemies , though when i speak they are always for war . FLEE THESE POLITICIANS . FLEE THEM ALL . AND take not the shot of death .
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Post by frienduff on Jan 9, 2021 14:33:00 GMT -5
Dont anyone here be lazy . Yall gonna do the math . Spend some time and check and test everything i am about to say .
Lets take a peek at this bill and melinda gates luciferase shot . DONT GET LAZY . I AM Seriously asking all to do the math and you test me . I DID THE MATH . I DONT take anyones word for squat . Even if i love the person , i do my homework . SO take the time and do the math . This is an english speaking vaccine . DO the math . Find out for yourselves . HERE is the method of this so called hope and savoir delivery system of said WICKED DEMON SHOT . IMPLANTABLE QUANTUM DOT MICRONEEDLE VACCINATION DELIVERY SYSTEM . Now with every letter find its numerical value and then add up the whole thing . Example A is one , B is two , C is three . And so on . I will do the first word for you all so as you can see what i am talking about . I is the ninth letter . M is 13 P is sixteenth letter , L is twelve , a is one N is fourteen , T is twenty, A is one , B is two L is twelve , E is five . Now do this with every letter , and add it up . AND PREPARE to be in a chair with pillows on every side in case ya pass out . Dont take my word for it . DO THE MATH YOURSELVES .
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Post by frienduff on Jan 9, 2021 14:49:08 GMT -5
Man i got the feeling folks are gonna be lazy . SO CHECK THIS , CHECK EVERY LETTER , ITS NUMBER value . I M P L A N T A B L E QUANTUM DOT MICRONEEDLE VACCINATION DELIVERY SYSTEM . 9,13 16 12 1 14 20 1 2 12 5 IMPLANTALBE
17 21 1 14 20 21 13 QUANTUM 4 15 20 DOT 13 9 3 18 15 14 5 5 4 12 5 MICRONEEDLE 22 1 3 3 9 14 1 20 9 15 14 VACCINATION 4 5 12 9 22 5 18 25 DELIVERY 19 25 19 20 5 13 SYSTEM do THE MATH . THE STINK PILE ADDS UP TO SIX HUNDRED AND SIXTY SIX . THAT DONT SOUND VERY GOOD . AND WE KNOW IT CHANGES THE GENOME AND WE KNOW THE IDENTIFYING FACTOR IN IT IS CALLED LUCIERASE . i DONT CARE WHO YA ARE , THAT DONT SOUND RIGHT TO ME .
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