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Post by frienduff on Oct 9, 2019 5:40:44 GMT -5
The guy at the other forum who was claiming murderers, rapist and thieves that never repent can go to heaven if they just believe in Jesus was talking about how the word repent isn't found in the book of John, so that is the gospel we need to give to "newbies." I don't see the logic in that. What difference does it make if the word repent is found in John's gospel if it is mentioned all throughout the New Testament and both by Jesus and John the Baptist?
In the final hour , it shall indeed get only worse and fast . Years back folks would have rolled over and passed out at the idea of what more and more today call the gospel . Its all tanking in an all out falling away now .
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Post by 777 on Oct 13, 2019 12:27:13 GMT -5
We need to understand that repentance is necessary to be saved, and by repentance, I mean turning away from a lifestyle of sin, not just going from unbelief in Jesus to believing.
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Post by John on Oct 13, 2019 14:52:15 GMT -5
We need to understand that repentance is necessary to be saved, and by repentance, I mean turning away from a lifestyle of sin, not just going from unbelief in Jesus to believing.
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Post by Jesus Christ teachings on Nov 2, 2019 16:17:31 GMT -5
Except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish. Luke 13:5
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Post by Cletus on Nov 3, 2019 1:04:26 GMT -5
repent in greek means to change your mind. Repent in hebrew means to turn around.
all thru the old testament God was saying turn from your wicked ways, turn unto The LORD, reTURN unto me, turn turn turn. then The Good shepherd comes saying I AM The Way... this way guys.
its not until you put both thee meanings together you get the full picture of the word repent. the full meaning is to drop it like a hot potato, turn 180 degrees around and walk away... do not return and pick it back up.
if all you do is change your mind where then is the fruit?... you will know them by their fruit... not by what the say they believe... and what was it God said about they honor me with their lips but their heart is far from me? you must worship God in spirit and truth if you want to worship Him at all. how true is it to say one thing and do another.... isnt that what they hypocrites did? (yes. yes it is.)
beware of those false teachers doctrine as a little leaven leaveneth the whole lump. guard your heart with all diligence as the false teachings are creeping in and destroying individuals and churches.
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Post by FollowingTheLamb on Nov 8, 2019 12:51:06 GMT -5
repent in greek means to change your mind. Repent in hebrew means to turn around. all thru the old testament God was saying turn from your wicked ways, turn unto The LORD, reTURN unto me, turn turn turn. then The Good shepherd comes saying I AM The Way... this way guys. its not until you put both thee meanings together you get the full picture of the word repent. the full meaning is to drop it like a hot potato, turn 180 degrees around and walk away... do not return and pick it back up. if all you do is change your mind where then is the fruit?... you will know them by their fruit... not by what the say they believe... and what was it God said about they honor me with their lips but their heart is far from me? you must worship God in spirit and truth if you want to worship Him at all. how true is it to say one thing and do another.... isnt that what they hypocrites did? (yes. yes it is.) beware of those false teachers doctrine as a little leaven leaveneth the whole lump. guard your heart with all diligence as the false teachings are creeping in and destroying individuals and churches. Amen brother, you correct. Blessed to see others are finally seeing the Truth. To those with "ears to hear" and a heart to receive, God is lifting the veil.  Yet many walk in deception still. I'm still being shunned and banned from forums for preaching Repentance, and that the promises of Rev 2 & 3 will come only to those who "overcome." Peace and Blessings to all who truly walk with Jesus. |
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Post by John on Nov 8, 2019 14:55:05 GMT -5
repent in greek means to change your mind. Repent in hebrew means to turn around. all thru the old testament God was saying turn from your wicked ways, turn unto The LORD, reTURN unto me, turn turn turn. then The Good shepherd comes saying I AM The Way... this way guys. its not until you put both thee meanings together you get the full picture of the word repent. the full meaning is to drop it like a hot potato, turn 180 degrees around and walk away... do not return and pick it back up. if all you do is change your mind where then is the fruit?... you will know them by their fruit... not by what the say they believe... and what was it God said about they honor me with their lips but their heart is far from me? you must worship God in spirit and truth if you want to worship Him at all. how true is it to say one thing and do another.... isnt that what they hypocrites did? (yes. yes it is.) beware of those false teachers doctrine as a little leaven leaveneth the whole lump. guard your heart with all diligence as the false teachings are creeping in and destroying individuals and churches. Amen brother, you correct. Blessed to see others are finally seeing the Truth. To those with "ears to hear" and a heart to receive, God is lifting the veil. Yet many walk in deception still. I'm still being shunned and banned from forums for preaching Repentance, and that the promises of Rev 2 & 3 will come only to those who "overcome." Peace and Blessings to all who truly walk with Jesus.
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Post by Cletus on Nov 8, 2019 17:36:47 GMT -5
repent in greek means to change your mind. Repent in hebrew means to turn around. all thru the old testament God was saying turn from your wicked ways, turn unto The LORD, reTURN unto me, turn turn turn. then The Good shepherd comes saying I AM The Way... this way guys. its not until you put both thee meanings together you get the full picture of the word repent. the full meaning is to drop it like a hot potato, turn 180 degrees around and walk away... do not return and pick it back up. if all you do is change your mind where then is the fruit?... you will know them by their fruit... not by what the say they believe... and what was it God said about they honor me with their lips but their heart is far from me? you must worship God in spirit and truth if you want to worship Him at all. how true is it to say one thing and do another.... isnt that what they hypocrites did? (yes. yes it is.) beware of those false teachers doctrine as a little leaven leaveneth the whole lump. guard your heart with all diligence as the false teachings are creeping in and destroying individuals and churches. Amen brother, you correct. Blessed to see others are finally seeing the Truth. To those with "ears to hear" and a heart to receive, God is lifting the veil. Yet many walk in deception still. I'm still being shunned and banned from forums for preaching Repentance, and that the promises of Rev 2 & 3 will come only to those who "overcome." Peace and Blessings to all who truly walk with Jesus. there has always been wolves in the church. even in acts Paul warned those saints in Ephesus wolves were coming... and in john one and two John came in behind those wolves trying to clean up the mess.
soon enough there will be no locks on doors... no deception will come to our ears... no more pain no more tears. When our Hope appears all this will pass. on that day a nation will cry Holy Holy Holy at the top of our lungs.
Psa 46:1 To the chief Musician for the sons of Korah, A Song upon Alamoth. God is our refuge and strength, a very present help in trouble.
Psa 46:2 Therefore will not we fear, though the earth be removed, and though the mountains be carried into the midst of the sea;
Psa 46:3 Though the waters thereof roar and be troubled, though the mountains shake with the swelling thereof. Selah.
Psa 46:4 There is a river, the streams whereof shall make glad the city of God, the holy place of the tabernacles of the most High.
Psa 46:5 God is in the midst of her; she shall not be moved: God shall help her, and that right early.
Psa 46:6 The heathen raged, the kingdoms were moved: he uttered his voice, the earth melted.
Psa 46:7 The LORD of hosts is with us; the God of Jacob is our refuge. Selah.
Psa 46:8 Come, behold the works of the LORD, what desolations he hath made in the earth.
Psa 46:9 He maketh wars to cease unto the end of the earth; he breaketh the bow, and cutteth the spear in sunder; he burneth the chariot in the fire.
Psa 46:10 Be still, and know that I am God: I will be exalted among the heathen, I will be exalted in the earth.
Psa 46:11 The LORD of hosts is with us; the God of Jacob is our refuge. Selah.
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Post by FollowingTheLamb on Nov 18, 2019 15:23:48 GMT -5
Amen brother, you correct. Blessed to see others are finally seeing the Truth. To those with "ears to hear" and a heart to receive, God is lifting the veil. Yet many walk in deception still. I'm still being shunned and banned from forums for preaching Repentance, and that the promises of Rev 2 & 3 will come only to those who "overcome." Peace and Blessings to all who truly walk with Jesus.
That, and sharing my understanding of the relationship between the Father and the Son, even though it is as Jesus taught, has caused the many to verbally attack me and prevent me from teaching contrary to the traditions of man. And sadly it happened here already. Candy's intense hatred of me led her to even block my home IP address from posting on this forum. Sad indeed, that so much of God's Holy Word is shoved aside in favor of carnal wisdom. But as I must remain faithful to the Lord, I continue teaching His Word, and His alone. As always, Peace and Blessings to all who truly walk with Jesus. |
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Post by 777 on Nov 18, 2019 16:27:11 GMT -5
If that is what is getting you banned and shunned from forums, it wouldn't get you in trouble here. We believe in the need for repentance and that we must overcome to have any inheritance in the Kingdom of God. Is that the only reason you have had issues at different forums?
That, and sharing my understanding of the relationship between the Father and the Son, even though it is as Jesus taught, has caused the many to verbally attack me and prevent me from teaching contrary to the traditions of man. And sadly it happened here already. Candy's intense hatred of me led her to even block my home IP address from posting on this forum. Sad indeed, that so much of God's Holy Word is shoved aside in favor of carnal wisdom. But as I must remain faithful to the Lord, I continue teaching His Word, and His alone. As always, Peace and Blessings to all who truly walk with Jesus. |
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Post by John on Nov 19, 2019 4:19:58 GMT -5
If that is what is getting you banned and shunned from forums, it wouldn't get you in trouble here. We believe in the need for repentance and that we must overcome to have any inheritance in the Kingdom of God. Is that the only reason you have had issues at different forums?
That, and sharing my understanding of the relationship between the Father and the Son, even though it is as Jesus taught, has caused the many to verbally attack me and prevent me from teaching contrary to the traditions of man. And sadly it happened here already. Candy's intense hatred of me led her to even block my home IP address from posting on this forum. Sad indeed, that so much of God's Holy Word is shoved aside in favor of carnal wisdom. But as I must remain faithful to the Lord, I continue teaching His Word, and His alone. As always, Peace and Blessings to all who truly walk with Jesus.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2019 6:50:17 GMT -5
repent in greek means to change your mind. Repent in hebrew means to turn around. all thru the old testament God was saying turn from your wicked ways, turn unto The LORD, reTURN unto me, turn turn turn. then The Good shepherd comes saying I AM The Way... this way guys. its not until you put both thee meanings together you get the full picture of the word repent. the full meaning is to drop it like a hot potato, turn 180 degrees around and walk away... do not return and pick it back up. if all you do is change your mind where then is the fruit?... you will know them by their fruit... not by what the say they believe... and what was it God said about they honor me with their lips but their heart is far from me? you must worship God in spirit and truth if you want to worship Him at all. how true is it to say one thing and do another.... isnt that what they hypocrites did? (yes. yes it is.) beware of those false teachers doctrine as a little leaven leaveneth the whole lump. guard your heart with all diligence as the false teachings are creeping in and destroying individuals and churches. Amen brother, you correct. Blessed to see others are finally seeing the Truth. To those with "ears to hear" and a heart to receive, God is lifting the veil. Yet many walk in deception still. I'm still being shunned and banned from forums for preaching Repentance, and that the promises of Rev 2 & 3 will come only to those who "overcome." Peace and Blessings to all who truly walk with Jesus. The need for repentance is all over the bible, in both new and old testaments, so we would wonder how could anyone possibly argue with it. But it seems there is sometimes, or maybe often, a disconnect between the mind and heart of a person. It think it is possible that the heart may have repented but the carnal mind doesn't understand and tries to splice and dice the truth too finely to the point of getting lost in the weeds. I think not everyone who has a wrong understanding means that they are walking in sin, or that they are not saved. It is a bigger problem though when people come and actually teach or preach wrong understanding, as opposed to those who are just expressing their wrong understanding. I've even heard some say that you are not a Christian if you understand the concept of trinity wrong....yikes. Who is sufficient for these things.....we're all seeing through a glass darkly....and I'm mindful of where it says if we think we know we do not yet know as we ought. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2019 6:58:27 GMT -5
That, and sharing my understanding of the relationship between the Father and the Son, even though it is as Jesus taught, has caused the many to verbally attack me and prevent me from teaching contrary to the traditions of man. And sadly it happened here already. Candy's intense hatred of me led her to even block my home IP address from posting on this forum. Sad indeed, that so much of God's Holy Word is shoved aside in favor of carnal wisdom. But as I must remain faithful to the Lord, I continue teaching His Word, and His alone. As always, Peace and Blessings to all who truly walk with Jesus.
I like the scripture in Philippians 2 that talks about how Jesus left His 'divinity' behind, so to speak, and became as a servant, obeying and subjecting Himself to the Father and Holy Spirit, setting the example for us. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2019 7:21:22 GMT -5
We need to understand that repentance is necessary to be saved, and by repentance, I mean turning away from a lifestyle of sin, not just going from unbelief in Jesus to believing.
Brother, I hope you don't mind if we discuss this a bit. Faith in Jesus IS salvation, is it not? Turning from unbelief to belief with the faith that is not of one's own....I think means that they have been saved. They have repented.....of unbelief. And while the Lord may have delivered the new believer of some sins and bondages from the get-go, He may not have delivered them from all, and everyone may receive a different portion of grace, some more, some less, etc. After coming to faith now we must begin to follow Jesus and start to fight the good fight of faith, taking more ground for Him in our life and heart...how I am understanding this. God told the Israelites when they had entered the Promised Land that He would defeat their enemies little by little, not all at once lest the wild beasts start to overrun the land (I believe referring to such wild beasts as pride or forgetting God, etc). In His wisdom and for our eternal good the Lord has arranged it that we overcome little by little. So we repent initially and then as we walk on following the Lord He brings more things to light that we didn't even know about, that we need to then do battle with and overcome, repenting of it. Going from glory to glory, from victory to victory. I stand to be corrected on any of this, but that is how I am understanding the believer's pilgrimage at this point, and it's how it seems to be working in my life. |
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Post by John on Nov 19, 2019 7:43:21 GMT -5
We had someone who was denying that Jesus Christ is God that was blocked because he was teaching that and placing a link to his web-site in his posts. That person claimed Jesus didn't say he was God, but Jesus did say that he was "I AM," and we all know that he was saying he was God. As such, even if a person wants to look to other scriptures and say that they don't believe Jesus was claiming to be God, I have scriptures that show he did say he was God, and our official position is that Jesus is God.
I like the scripture in Philippians 2 that talks about how Jesus left His 'divinity' behind, so to speak, and became as a servant, obeying and subjecting Himself to the Father and Holy Spirit, setting the example for us.
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