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Post by John on Oct 22, 2019 8:56:51 GMT -5
When we speak of Bible literacy, what does that mean? What should our primary focus be on? What do the Bible colleges focus on? Knowing how the Bible came into being. Names of sections. Classifications of books. What of doctrine? What of things that are taught to instruct us in our daily conduct? What does Bible literacy mean to you?
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Post by PG4Him on Oct 22, 2019 17:52:16 GMT -5
My original purpose was to promote more personal reading of the Bible at home, a better overall grasp of the important people and ideas, and common-sense safeguards against obvious literary butchery. I never wanted to promote any man-made study techniques. But a little common sense goes a long way. People fall for ridiculous arguments when they don’t know their Bible basics.
Unfortunately, I was opposed for even suggesting simple literacy guidelines. Things like reading the full paragraph around a sentence, or looking for more than one verse about the same idea. I was accused of supporting hermeneutics when I said we should understand what we’re reading. If it’s a man-made tactic to read the whole paragraph to see what Paul was talking about, then I guess I’m guilty of using hermeneutics.
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Post by John on Oct 22, 2019 18:17:58 GMT -5
My original purpose was to promote more personal reading of the Bible at home, a better overall grasp of the important people and ideas, and common-sense safeguards against obvious literary butchery. I never wanted to promote any man-made study techniques. But a little common sense goes a long way. People fall for ridiculous arguments when they don’t know their Bible basics. Unfortunately, I was opposed for even suggesting simple literacy guidelines. Things like reading the full paragraph around a sentence, or looking for more than one verse about the same idea. I was accused of supporting hermeneutics when I said we should understand what we’re reading. If it’s a man-made tactic to read the whole paragraph to see what Paul was talking about, then I guess I’m guilty of using hermeneutics. Don't feel bad about that Candance. I had people promoting hermeneutics tell me I was using hermeneutics for simply looking up definitions and trying to understand context. That is utter nonsense, considering that I didn't even know what hermeneutics was at the time and had never heard of the "laws of literature." I have always done things like that to try to understand the meaning, and don't feel bad about it or like I am suddenly following Hermes.
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Post by PG4Him on Oct 22, 2019 18:26:32 GMT -5
Heh heh... laws of literature... that never gets old.
But yeah, I really want people to read the Bible at home, to know where Abraham and Moses fit in, to know how Jesus fulfilled the Torah, and to know what’s expected of Christians. If you don’t have a decent grasp of the Old Testament, half the comments in the New Testament make no sense. How can you read Galatians without knowing who Hagar is? How can you read Hebrews without knowing the march in the desert?
The Bible isn’t a hodge podge of names and locations we’re expected to believe by ignorant faith. These events really happened, and they happened in chronological order.
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Post by PG4Him on Oct 22, 2019 18:31:57 GMT -5
Here’s a specimen of literary butchery that people actually fall for. While preaching on the power of positive thinking, Joel Osteen informs us “Paul said in Acts he thinks himself happy.”
Well yes, Paul did say “I think myself happy” in Acts. It’s true that he said those four words.
Then Agrippa said unto Paul, Thou art permitted to speak for thyself. Then Paul stretched forth the hand, and answered for himself: I think myself happy, king Agrippa, because I shall answer for myself this day before thee touching all the things whereof I am accused of the Jews — Acts 26:1-2
Paul said he found himself fortunate to have King Agrippa as his judge. He wasn’t trying to ‘think himself into a better mood.’
Gullible people who’ve never read Acts would have no idea how badly Joel Osteen butchered this verse. Read your Bible, people!!!
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Post by John on Oct 22, 2019 18:41:52 GMT -5
Here’s a specimen of literary butchery that people actually fall for. While preaching on the power of positive thinking, Joel Osteen informs us “Paul said in Acts he thinks himself happy.” Well yes, Paul did say “I think myself happy” in Acts. It’s true that he said those four words. Then Agrippa said unto Paul, Thou art permitted to speak for thyself. Then Paul stretched forth the hand, and answered for himself: I think myself happy, king Agrippa, because I shall answer for myself this day before thee touching all the things whereof I am accused of the Jews — Acts 26:1-2 Paul said he found himself fortunate to have King Agrippa as his judge. He wasn’t trying to ‘think himself into a better mood.’ Gullible people who’ve never read Acts would have no idea how badly Joel Osteen butchered this verse. Read your Bible, people!!! Most preachers at least make a pretense of using the Bible by having a text to a sermon. Unless he has changed, Joel Osteen doesn't even read from a Bible, but just references it.
Yes, everyone should read their Bible, and in the case of people in America, if they don't and they are deceived, they have no one to blame but self, because Bibles are easy to obtain.
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Post by PG4Him on Oct 22, 2019 18:48:58 GMT -5
Muslims are currently teaching that Mohammad was who Jesus promised to send in John 16. How can they say this with a straight face is beyond me. But for them this is serious teaching. Illiterate people fall for this.
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Post by John on Oct 27, 2019 21:55:27 GMT -5
Muslims are currently teaching that Mohammad was who Jesus promised to send in John 16. How can they say this with a straight face is beyond me. But for them this is serious teaching. Illiterate people fall for this. It is like how you have ignorant people that think Allah is just another name for Jehovah, and we are all serving the same God. There are a lot of false teachings like that, which has led to the COEXIST movement.
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