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Post by frienduff on Nov 18, 2019 10:20:24 GMT -5
I am sure that many here would say that I have given some good exhortations and truths . Some might not agree with my view on the tribulation . But over all I am sure you all would agree I have told some good exhortations . SO I bring this up to make a good point .
I will use a few of us as examples . Lets say me , Cletus , giller , and solid were here doing as we do , teaching or expounding on truths . And yet we also said , oh my favorite teacher , is a well known false one . Or say I was doing as I do , but saying OH the pope is a great man etc . WOULD you all not know that something is dead wrong with me . No matter how much truth I could bring or giller or others , IF we stood behind the POPE rest assured I believe everyone on this site would be hollering , WOA , stop that truck you are deceived big time . If I came on here pointing strong to a mega false one , say like Kenneth Copeland and told you all he was my spiritual mentor and father and since I was first saved I follow HIM . Would you all not know something was dead wrong in me . If a babe cannot see yet , nor knows the dangerous , I understand that . But if anyone who has spent time in Christ and SPECIALLY a so called seasoned leader supports such , THEN why on earth would we ever once continue to heed such . This is not an accusation against anyone here . This is simply a reminder . Those who are of the SPIRIT will gather with those BORN of the SPIRIT So any leader should long have had his senses exercised to warn against that which is false and those who do teach what is false . NOT SUPPORT THEM . I want us all to really pray about this . Because this is but another way to deceive the people . Let us remember their doctrine has to be RIGHT , and who they hang around and support cannot be mega false . I mean , In no way do I believe any of us would stand on camera and call Kenneth our spiritual father and mentor . SO why on earth make excuse for anyone else who does . IF anything we should see the danger and pray for anyone doing such a thing TO REPENT of such a thing . And we should warn against them for the sake of others . IF we start letting down our guard , SPECIALLY amongst those who lead and teach , we are going to end up n serious trouble . FOr at the very least we wont expose them and since we don't expose them , will not the blood of anyone we let go in that direction be on our hands . I DONT think anyone here is false . LET that be said TEN TIMES . But I see a very serious grave danger , wolves are being cloaked quite well in wool and instead of seeing the fruits of WHO they hang around its being overlooked . but that is A SERIOUS KEY as to where their HEART REALLY IS . As I said , if I came here preaching even most truth and yet said , OH THE POPE is my spiritual father , my mentor , YALL would KNOW I was a deceiver . SO without even saying what KENNETH did about the pope , LOOK at all the major , massive blasphemies HE has taught . And its not like Todd can say , OH I did not know about this pope thing nor the things Kenneth has taught . BECAUSE HIS OWN MOUTH said SINCE HE WAS SAVED KENNETH HAS BEEN HIS DADDY , well spiritual mentor or father . I say this not to fight , strive , debate , I SAY THIS because THIS IS A KEY , ITS A MAJOR FRUIT of where TODD s HEART TRULY IS .
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Post by frienduff on Nov 18, 2019 10:28:41 GMT -5
Just remember , LET us know that also deception is abounding more than ever in these days . So let not me , ,nor any let our guard down . Let us double down in the bible . And let us be on guard , being only more diligent and viligent than ever . I pray this increase down unto US ALL . We all need the increase that our LORD can surely give us to keep us safe and being built up . SO I pray that we don't fight over this . Just pray about this and let us increase in exhorting our LORD and ALL HE did teach and the apostels did teach , EVEN MORE than we all have been . I do love you all . And as I said , And let it be said FIFTY TIMES that I do not think anyone here Is false BUT we need these reminders , YES I need them too . WE need to continue to sharpen one another only more and keep feasting on that bible even more . You all are loved dearly and I do not want us striving , I want us truly exhorting and building one another up . SO please KNOW I only said what I said , OUT of LOVE , out of compassion that we be on guard . Anyone of us are capable of a dissumlatoin , just as peter and barnabas and others had done . We wont , IF we heed OUR LORD and all scripture and all warnings and true exhortations given us by the Spirit .
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Post by John on Nov 18, 2019 10:46:08 GMT -5
That may be how you would react, but not me. I would strongly stand against the Pope and would disagree with someone's comment that they like the Pope, but where they said right things, I would agree with them. I would be concerned that they like the Pope and it might make me more on guard watching to see if I detect the Pope's influence on their message, and I would talk to them to see why they like the Pope. I would show them things the Pope and the RCC teach, because they might not know, but I wouldn't write them off based on that.
Up until about 10 years ago, I felt the pull to unify with the RCC. I had been saved and in ministry a long time. I never really spent that much time investigating the RCC. After investigating it and spending time listening to Mass on an almost daily basis for months, I knew there was no way to have unity with a group so off. My point is that there is a strong delusion in the world to unify with Rome, and it is easy for even a seasoned Christian to desire unity, especially if they never took the time to do a serious look at what they teach. I would see things like the way they are portrayed in movies like "Bells Of Saint Mary's" and think they look better than the freak show in many Protestant churches today. Don't make assumptions about how much people know or should know. I know the RCC is bad, but I understand the pull, having experienced it myself before later rejecting it.
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Post by John on Nov 18, 2019 10:49:27 GMT -5
Just remember , LET us know that also deception is abounding more than ever in these days . So let not me , ,nor any let our guard down . Let us double down in the bible . And let us be on guard , being only more diligent and viligent than ever . I pray this increase down unto US ALL . We all need the increase that our LORD can surely give us to keep us safe and being built up . SO I pray that we don't fight over this . Just pray about this and let us increase in exhorting our LORD and ALL HE did teach and the apostels did teach , EVEN MORE than we all have been . I do love you all . And as I said , And let it be said FIFTY TIMES that I do not think anyone here Is false BUT we need these reminders , YES I need them too . WE need to continue to sharpen one another only more and keep feasting on that bible even more . You all are loved dearly and I do not want us striving , I want us truly exhorting and building one another up . SO please KNOW I only said what I said , OUT of LOVE , out of compassion that we be on guard . Anyone of us are capable of a dissumlatoin , just as peter and barnabas and others had done . We wont , IF we heed OUR LORD and all scripture and all warnings and true exhortations given us by the Spirit . There is a strong delusion and a pull to unify with the RCC. We need to be on guard because anyone can get sucked into it if they are not careful.
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Post by frienduff on Nov 18, 2019 12:41:29 GMT -5
Just real quick . When I said birds of a feather flock together . THIS is no way was aimed at any of us here . I meant it as a general warning that TODD and KENNETH are united together . Not that any of us follows those men . It was a general reminder that we need to watch and examine all leaders , not only the doctrine they teach , but who they align up with . For many deceivers abound and we shall know them not only by the doctrine they teach , but by their fruits action . And no seasoned man would line up with THE POPE and no seasoned man would line up with any who does . You are right butero . There sure is a strong delusion and a pull to unify with the RCC . So since we know this , BE SURE that any one we listen too , or any leader is not tied to ROME , nor to those who support this pope francis and or any unity with this move .
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Post by Giller on Nov 18, 2019 14:22:38 GMT -5
I personally would not heed to Todd's teachings, but whether he would be open to talk about ecumenical-ism and see the truth concerning Catholicism I am not so sure, but I pray he would be willing to do so, and be open to the truth.
One thing I do know is I did see a video of him participating in this fake leg growing stuff.
And I looked for ways to contact him, and he is virtually impossible to contact.
Maybe the only way is Facebook, but even then I am not sure, and I am not on Facebook, but on his main website, it really gives you no choice to ask him a personal question.
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Post by John on Nov 18, 2019 14:32:01 GMT -5
I personally would not heed to Todd's teachings, but whether he would be open to talk about ecumenical-ism and see the truth concerning Catholicism I am not so sure, but I pray he would be willing to do so, and be open to the truth. One thing I do know is I did see a video of him participating in this fake leg growing stuff. And I looked for ways to contact him, and he is virtually impossible to contact. Maybe the only way is Facebook, but even then I am not sure, and I am not on Facebook, but on his main website, it really gives you no choice to ask him a personal question. I didn't see the leg growing videos, but how do you know they were fake?
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Post by 777 on Nov 18, 2019 15:04:50 GMT -5
I personally would not heed to Todd's teachings, but whether he would be open to talk about ecumenical-ism and see the truth concerning Catholicism I am not so sure, but I pray he would be willing to do so, and be open to the truth. One thing I do know is I did see a video of him participating in this fake leg growing stuff. And I looked for ways to contact him, and he is virtually impossible to contact. Maybe the only way is Facebook, but even then I am not sure, and I am not on Facebook, but on his main website, it really gives you no choice to ask him a personal question. Is that where one leg is shorter than the other, and they pray for them to even up? They say most people have one leg that is slightly longer than the other, but I don't know if that is true. God can do anything, so He could certainly lengthen a leg.
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Post by 777 on Nov 18, 2019 15:07:30 GMT -5
I know who Kenneth Copeland is, but not Todd White. I don't like Copeland.
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Post by Giller on Nov 19, 2019 0:08:40 GMT -5
I personally would not heed to Todd's teachings, but whether he would be open to talk about ecumenical-ism and see the truth concerning Catholicism I am not so sure, but I pray he would be willing to do so, and be open to the truth. One thing I do know is I did see a video of him participating in this fake leg growing stuff. And I looked for ways to contact him, and he is virtually impossible to contact. Maybe the only way is Facebook, but even then I am not sure, and I am not on Facebook, but on his main website, it really gives you no choice to ask him a personal question. I didn't see the leg growing videos, but how do you know they were fake?
Well I seen it done the same exact way in person, and I observed it, and also the atmosphere in that meeting that I went to was not good at all, you could feel evil in that place. And they purposely place the feet in a specific way, and then bring them together as if they grew, and it has become it seems a format of doing things.
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Post by Giller on Nov 19, 2019 0:11:45 GMT -5
I personally would not heed to Todd's teachings, but whether he would be open to talk about ecumenical-ism and see the truth concerning Catholicism I am not so sure, but I pray he would be willing to do so, and be open to the truth. One thing I do know is I did see a video of him participating in this fake leg growing stuff. And I looked for ways to contact him, and he is virtually impossible to contact. Maybe the only way is Facebook, but even then I am not sure, and I am not on Facebook, but on his main website, it really gives you no choice to ask him a personal question. Is that where one leg is shorter than the other, and they pray for them to even up? They say most people have one leg that is slightly longer than the other, but I don't know if that is true. God can do anything, so He could certainly lengthen a leg. Yes it would be that, but at the meeting I went to, they spread the feet, and then slowly bring them together as if they have grown, I could easily see it was a gimmick. Now I do believe that God can grow feet, but it is always for a purpose, to were it is needed.
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Post by Giller on Nov 19, 2019 0:12:40 GMT -5
Many of these supposed people who apparently have their feet grown, do not really need it.
Some are healthy and fine and walk normal.
My friend's daughter apparently had her leg grew a bit, yet she did not need it, she was walking fine, and I paid close attention how they did it, and it was fake, they spread the legs and then slowly bring them together to make it look as if it grew, and they did this to a few people.
I know what I saw and I know for a 100% fact it was fake, and I seen a few videos on YouTube exposing it, and yet I seen this in real life and can say that what they are saying and exposing is true.
And it was not really that hard to discern or see.
If Christ is growing a leg, you do not need to move it even slowly or even touch it, it will grow all by itself, but that is not what is happening here, they are moving the legs in such a motion so it appears that it has grown.
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Post by Giller on Nov 19, 2019 1:58:58 GMT -5
They are truly tricking people and deceiving them, and people instead of paying real attention to what is happening, people get all caught up in the emotions of the moment.
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Post by John on Nov 19, 2019 3:52:19 GMT -5
They are truly tricking people and deceiving them, and people instead of paying real attention to what is happening, people get all caught up in the emotions of the moment. It would be easy enough to fake something like that, unless one leg was a lot longer than the other one. If you saw this up close and in person, and how they were doing it, that is all I was wondering about. Fake healings is a big deal.
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Post by Giller on Nov 19, 2019 9:54:42 GMT -5
They are truly tricking people and deceiving them, and people instead of paying real attention to what is happening, people get all caught up in the emotions of the moment. It would be easy enough to fake something like that, unless one leg was a lot longer than the other one. If you saw this up close and in person, and how they were doing it, that is all I was wondering about. Fake healings is a big deal.
And my friend's daughter's leg were not that much different than each other, possibly just to say it was just, but she walked normal, and it is said that one of our legs tend to be just a tad longer for some reason. What they do is put the feet together, then they moved them side ways, then slowly move them and bring them back together again, and the way they move the legs, and bring them back together again, makes it appear to have grown, yet many of these people do not have a problem with their leg, it seems to be a scheme, so to show some type of so-called miracle for the sake of it. If God is truly growing a leg, don't you think that you can leave the leg alone, and it will grow right in front of you without having to spread them apart, and then moving them aside, then slowing moving them back in their same position?
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