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Post by John on Feb 11, 2020 8:41:42 GMT -5
This is a question we are being faced with today. Do we all come together, put all differences aside, and become one massive united Christian Church, or do we stand for Biblical truth and separate from the church at large? Before I even tell you my answer to this question, we all need to realize that the unity movement is not all inclusive. They are large, but they are not all accepting. They will not tolerate or respect anyone that holds to the Bible and Biblical absolutes. If you are one that does that, you will not be welcome because you will be seen as a hater. Just realize that you can't be a true follower of the Bible in absolute terms and be a member in good standing with the inclusive church.
If you are going to join with the inclusive church, you need to stop preaching against sin, and realize we have a new message of love and tolerance. We must welcome homosexuals and fornicators into our churches with open arms to be part of the inclusive church. We must join in unity with our mother church in Rome, and understand that the Pope is not our enemy. We have much bigger threats out there, like Muslims. When it comes to the Muslims and other faiths, we need to be respectful, because they worship the same God under a different name. As for the RCC, so they pray to statues and Mary. Is that really so bad? Isn't love about overlooking faults? If you are going to fit in with the inclusive church, you must accept these people and practice tolerance.
If your decision is to reject the inclusive model, and you insist on holding to the teachings in the KJV Bible without compromise, that so-called all inclusive group, that is supposedly full of love will hate and shun you. You may ask the question, doesn't all inclusive mean they must accept me too? You would think so, but it doesn't. You will be a hater, a legalist, a non-conformist, an outcast, for believing and following and teaching the Bible. Can you handle being in the minority? Can you stand in the wake of persecution? These are things today's church is faced with. The battle lines are drawn. Which side are you on? Choose you this day?
For me, there is no choice. I shall not join with a movement of inclusive religious folks marching into hell together. Before I would do that, I would quit the faith entirely and be a good sinner. The outcome will be the same. If you want to get to heaven, you must do things God's way, and enter in through the strait gate. The people accepting the idolatry in Rome and the faith plus nothing message that we are all slaves to sin and going to heaven in that condition will be in the same hell with the devil and his angels and the abominable and unbelieving. As Joshua said, choose ye this day who you will serve? Are you going to serve along side the all inclusive church who is marching towards the same hell as the unbelievers, or do you have what it takes to withstand the persecutions, and be part of the sanctified ones, separated for the Lord's service? As for me, I choose to serve the Lord and reject the so-called inclusive hell bound church. Come out from among them, says the Lord, and be ye separate, and God will receive you. I have more to add, but I will end this post.
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Post by 777 on Feb 11, 2020 9:35:50 GMT -5
I know you are right about their intolerance towards people that preach the Bible according to it's originally intended meaning. I see how they attack those who insist we must live by Biblical standards. Calling them out and saying they are hell bound is hard preaching, but I believe you are right about that too.
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Post by John on Feb 13, 2020 23:06:28 GMT -5
I know you are right about their intolerance towards people that preach the Bible according to it's originally intended meaning. I see how they attack those who insist we must live by Biblical standards. Calling them out and saying they are hell bound is hard preaching, but I believe you are right about that too. Jesus told us to count the cost. There is a cost for standing for truth. You will be persecuted, but the end will be eternal life. You can choose to be part of the go along to get along crowd, and escape the persecution, but the end is eternal damnation. The choice is yours to make.
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Post by John on Feb 13, 2020 23:13:09 GMT -5
I know you are right about their intolerance towards people that preach the Bible according to it's originally intended meaning. I see how they attack those who insist we must live by Biblical standards. Calling them out and saying they are hell bound is hard preaching, but I believe you are right about that too. The thing is Triple 7, if you are living as a slave to sin, the Bible states plainly you won't inherit the Kingdom of God. We know that, even if others are deceiving folks with the faith plus nothing fairy tale. But what about those who are living right, but telling others they don't have to? If you are preaching a false message, and telling people that they can commit a thousand acts of murder, theft and rape a day and go to heaven because you believe Jesus is the Son of God, what becomes of them? The Bible says that all liars will have their part in the lake of fire, and these lies are leading people into the flames of hell.
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Post by 777 on Feb 14, 2020 8:23:12 GMT -5
I know you are right about their intolerance towards people that preach the Bible according to it's originally intended meaning. I see how they attack those who insist we must live by Biblical standards. Calling them out and saying they are hell bound is hard preaching, but I believe you are right about that too. The thing is Triple 7, if you are living as a slave to sin, the Bible states plainly you won't inherit the Kingdom of God. We know that, even if others are deceiving folks with the faith plus nothing fairy tale. But what about those who are living right, but telling others they don't have to? If you are preaching a false message, and telling people that they can commit a thousand acts of murder, theft and rape a day and go to heaven because you believe Jesus is the Son of God, what becomes of them? The Bible says that all liars will have their part in the lake of fire, and these lies are leading people into the flames of hell.
That is true. I can't imagine heaven being full of false teachers that encouraged people to be comfortable and at peace being a servant to sin.
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Post by Dezi on Feb 14, 2020 18:13:03 GMT -5
Preach it Brother John!
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Post by frienduff on Feb 14, 2020 21:38:35 GMT -5
I had rather be FLAT OUT DEAD than follow their DEAD and second death leading too , LIE . Guess that don't surprise none here . You all be blessed now and do praise the LORD . I had rather be D E A D than follow that sorry pile of lie . yeah , I chose the word lie , because it is , but believe me , another word could have been placed . BUT LIE sums it up far better .
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Post by frienduff on Feb 14, 2020 21:42:20 GMT -5
They gonna hate me , my friends , but then they gonna hate us all . And as Cletus reminded me , REJOICE IN THE HOLY LORD when they lie about us and call us haters and mock us and soon , and do I mean soon , even persecute us big time for not agreeing with their pile of ………………………..LIE . Let all armour up . I done made my descision , and I made it not in ignorance , BUT KNOWING FULL WELL what the cost could be , even death . BUT I SWAY NOT from that choice FOR I choose JESUS and HIS SAYINGS , the sayings of the apostels too . And whatever the cost , IS THE COST , its gain to lambs no matter what we suffer .
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Post by frienduff on Feb 14, 2020 21:49:16 GMT -5
This is a question we are being faced with today. Do we all come together, put all differences aside, and become one massive united Christian Church, or do we stand for Biblical truth and separate from the church at large? Before I even tell you my answer to this question, we all need to realize that the unity movement is not all inclusive. They are large, but they are not all accepting. They will not tolerate or respect anyone that holds to the Bible and Biblical absolutes. If you are one that does that, you will not be welcome because you will be seen as a hater. Just realize that you can't be a true follower of the Bible in absolute terms and be a member in good standing with the inclusive church.
If you are going to join with the inclusive church, you need to stop preaching against sin, and realize we have a new message of love and tolerance. We must welcome homosexuals and fornicators into our churches with open arms to be part of the inclusive church. We must join in unity with our mother church in Rome, and understand that the Pope is not our enemy. We have much bigger threats out there, like Muslims. When it comes to the Muslims and other faiths, we need to be respectful, because they worship the same God under a different name. As for the RCC, so they pray to statues and Mary. Is that really so bad? Isn't love about overlooking faults? If you are going to fit in with the inclusive church, you must accept these people and practice tolerance.
If your decision is to reject the inclusive model, and you insist on holding to the teachings in the KJV Bible without compromise, that so-called all inclusive group, that is supposedly full of love will hate and shun you. You may ask the question, doesn't all inclusive mean they must accept me too? You would think so, but it doesn't. You will be a hater, a legalist, a non-conformist, an outcast, for believing and following and teaching the Bible. Can you handle being in the minority? Can you stand in the wake of persecution? These are things today's church is faced with. The battle lines are drawn. Which side are you on? Choose you this day?
For me, there is no choice. I shall not join with a movement of inclusive religious folks marching into hell together. Before I would do that, I would quit the faith entirely and be a good sinner. The outcome will be the same. If you want to get to heaven, you must do things God's way, and enter in through the strait gate. The people accepting the idolatry in Rome and the faith plus nothing message that we are all slaves to sin and going to heaven in that condition will be in the same hell with the devil and his angels and the abominable and unbelieving. As Joshua said, choose ye this day who you will serve? Are you going to serve along side the all inclusive church who is marching towards the same hell as the unbelievers, or do you have what it takes to withstand the persecutions, and be part of the sanctified ones, separated for the Lord's service? As for me, I choose to serve the Lord and reject the so-called inclusive hell bound church. Come out from among them, says the Lord, and be ye separate, and God will receive you. I have more to add, but I will end this post.
And who are the main one behind this . ARE THE ONES I BEEN WARNING AGAINST . THEY ALL IN IT TOGETHER . thanks for the post butero . thanks for the reminder .
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Post by frienduff on Feb 14, 2020 21:50:51 GMT -5
LET THE TRUE LAMBS STAND TOGETHER NOW and till our last day . NOW . TIME is running out and the delusion of the all inclusion one big church , will SPROUT and become ONE GIANT TREE . The lambs must resist , I say again the lambs must resist .
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Post by frienduff on Feb 14, 2020 21:53:02 GMT -5
PS , for though the tree shall indeed grow huge and bountiful , and may shall enter under its shade and be amongst its branches and help produce its fruit . I TELLL us all , that TREE and all OF IT , WILL NOT WITHSTAND nor be left standing ON THE DAY OF THE LORD . CHOOSE YE THE LORD and HE ALONE LET US SERVE , for all else is vain and death and its end the second death . MARK THOSE WORDS .
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Post by frienduff on Feb 14, 2020 21:53:50 GMT -5
PS , for though the tree shall indeed grow huge and bountiful , and many shall enter under its shade and be amongst its branches and help produce its fruit . I TELLL us all , that TREE and all OF IT , WILL NOT WITHSTAND nor be left standing ON THE DAY OF THE LORD . CHOOSE YE THE LORD and HE ALONE LET US SERVE , for all else is vain and death and its end the second death . MARK THOSE WORDS .
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Post by frienduff on Feb 14, 2020 21:56:28 GMT -5
PS , for though the tree shall indeed grow huge and bountiful , and many shall enter under its shade and be amongst its branches and help produce its fruit . I TELLL us all , that TREE and all OF IT , WILL NOT WITHSTAND nor be left standing ON THE DAY OF THE LORD . CHOOSE YE THE LORD and HE ALONE LET US SERVE , for all else is vain and death and its end the second death . MARK THOSE WORDS .
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Post by frienduff on Feb 15, 2020 9:43:13 GMT -5
To whom it may concern , and that is all of us , let the LORD BE PRAISED . Keep reading the holy scriptures , continue in prayer , exhortations and being hearers and doers of the word . OH let the Lord be praised .
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Post by Cletus on Feb 15, 2020 12:00:46 GMT -5
it takes discernment to know if someone has The Holy Spirit. It takes The Holy Spirit to have discernment. what i see the underlying topic of the OP is... is the great falling away. lets see what scripture says here: 2Th 2:3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; 2Th 2:4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.
verse 4 tells us WHY... the enemy wants to steal (kill and destroy) us from God and he knows he cant snatch us out of Gods hand and he has to get us to walk away.
we must be very careful with the ecumenical movement. back in the day the ecumenical movement had good motives and there was in certain locations an outpouring of the Spirit. However, the enemy perverts everything including scripture. there is nothing wrong with different churches coming together as long as they operate under the headship of Jesus. good example. i used to go to a baptist church. only 4 doors down is a methodist church. The Holy Spirit can be found in each church. people preaching Holiness unto The LORD can be found in each church. the baptist preacher wanted to start bringing these churches together. attending each others services as guests, and just kinda mingle. in my mind this is good as The Book does say the hand cannot say to the foot i have no need of you... but those who are not of the body of Christ... simply there is nothing in common. if the false inclusive movement creeps in its our part to warn others and if its not taken to heart then come out of her my people so that you do not share in her plagues.
Mat 16:13 When Jesus came into the coasts of Caesarea Philippi, he asked his disciples, saying, Whom do men say that I the Son of man am? Mat 16:14 And they said, Some say that thou art John the Baptist: some, Elias; and others, Jeremias, or one of the prophets. Mat 16:15 He saith unto them, But whom say ye that I am? Mat 16:16 And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God. Mat 16:17 And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven.
Many people professing to be a christian today have not had things revealed to them. they have their own idea of who God is, and how He Is. they think God is just to loving and good to send people to hell, when in fact He is to good and honest to not judge sin. what they have imagined is their own version of love, goodness, and holiness, and they have left out judgment.
Deu 32:4 He is the Rock, his work is perfect: for all his ways are judgment: a God of truth and without iniquity, just and right is he. Deu 32:5 They have corrupted themselves, their spot is not the spot of his children: they are a perverse and crooked generation.
Psa 37:28 For the LORD loveth judgment, and forsaketh not his saints; they are preserved for ever: but the seed of the wicked shall be cut off. Psa 37:29 The righteous shall inherit the land, and dwell therein for ever. Psa 37:30 The mouth of the righteous speaketh wisdom, and his tongue talketh of judgment. Psa 37:31 The law of his God is in his heart; none of his steps shall slide. Psa 37:32 The wicked watcheth the righteous, and seeketh to slay him. Psa 37:33 The LORD will not leave him in his hand, nor condemn him when he is judged. Psa 37:34 Wait on the LORD, and keep his way, and he shall exalt thee to inherit the land: when the wicked are cut off, thou shalt see it. Psa 37:35 I have seen the wicked in great power, and spreading himself like a green bay tree. Psa 37:36 Yet he passed away, and, lo, he was not: yea, I sought him, but he could not be found. Psa 37:37 Mark the perfect man, and behold the upright: for the end of that man is peace. Psa 37:38 But the transgressors shall be destroyed together: the end of the wicked shall be cut off. Psa 37:39 But the salvation of the righteous is of the LORD: he is their strength in the time of trouble. Psa 37:40 And the LORD shall help them, and deliver them: he shall deliver them from the wicked, and save them, because they trust in him.
the problem is people are not genuine in their heart to living right before God. they do not judge their own motives. they have no desire for truth. the problem in the world right now is not the signs of the times... its the heart of man.
now, why on God's green earth would you want to unite with that? y y y?
can you pray this :
Psa 119:9 BETH. Wherewithal shall a young man cleanse his way? by taking heed thereto according to thy word. Psa 119:10 With my whole heart have I sought thee: O let me not wander from thy commandments. Psa 119:11 Thy word have I hid in mine heart, that I might not sin against thee. Psa 119:12 Blessed art thou, O LORD: teach me thy statutes. Psa 119:13 With my lips have I declared all the judgments of thy mouth. Psa 119:14 I have rejoiced in the way of thy testimonies, as much as in all riches. Psa 119:15 I will meditate in thy precepts, and have respect unto thy ways. Psa 119:16 I will delight myself in thy statutes: I will not forget thy word.
if not, get there and stay there. perilous times are coming to a neighborhood near you.
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