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Post by Tabitha3319 on Feb 27, 2020 1:55:30 GMT -5
So, when I read the Apostles letters, I notice that they'll say things past tense when it comes to repentance.
A lot of people teach that repentance is something you must constantly do to deal with sin.
However, when I read the Apostles letter, I feel like they also expected a full repentance of all sin as soon as they became Christians.
The reason I say this is because for most of my Christian life, I tried sin management instead of reckoning myself dead to sin.
When I finally resolved to completely get rid of sin and live in full obedience to Christ, then all the promises became true.
My theory is that I merely caught up to the point that the Apostles expected their audience to be in.
I feel like historical believers would have had a clearer understanding of Jesus as a literal Lord and Master.
I think we must continually confess any sin and repent to receive forgiveness, but true repentance leads to a state of full surrender to God. Not partial management of particular sins.
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Post by John on Feb 27, 2020 7:37:01 GMT -5
There is not much I can add to what you said Tabitha3319, except to say that I agree with your conclusions. Excellent post.
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Post by 777 on Feb 28, 2020 10:57:22 GMT -5
So, when I read the Apostles letters, I notice that they'll say things past tense when it comes to repentance. A lot of people teach that repentance is something you must constantly do to deal with sin. However, when I read the Apostles letter, I feel like they also expected a full repentance of all sin as soon as they became Christians. The reason I say this is because for most of my Christian life, I tried sin management instead of reckoning myself dead to sin. When I finally resolved to completely get rid of sin and live in full obedience to Christ, then all the promises became true. My theory is that I merely caught up to the point that the Apostles expected their audience to be in. I feel like historical believers would have had a clearer understanding of Jesus as a literal Lord and Master. I think we must continually confess any sin and repent to receive forgiveness, but true repentance leads to a state of full surrender to God. Not partial management of particular sins. Amen! Repentance means to turn away from sin. It means to go and sin no more. A lot of people see Jesus as a literal Savior, but not as Lord and Master. That is where a lot of the strife occurs. When anyone suggests actual obedience to Christ is required, they are attacked immediately as a legalist or Judaiser.
I remember that people used to say in church all the time, "If Jesus isn't Lord of everything, he's not Lord at all." I don't remember hearing that in a while. I guess it isn't politically correct today.
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Post by joseph on Feb 28, 2020 14:35:54 GMT -5
So, when I read the Apostles letters, I notice that they'll say things past tense when it comes to repentance. A lot of people teach that repentance is something you must constantly do to deal with sin. However, when I read the Apostles letter, I feel like they also expected a full repentance of all sin as soon as they became Christians. The reason I say this is because for most of my Christian life, I tried sin management instead of reckoning myself dead to sin. When I finally resolved to completely get rid of sin and live in full obedience to Christ, then all the promises became true. My theory is that I merely caught up to the point that the Apostles expected their audience to be in. I feel like historical believers would have had a clearer understanding of Jesus as a literal Lord and Master. I think we must continually confess any sin and repent to receive forgiveness, but true repentance leads to a state of full surrender to God. Not partial management of particular sins. As you read thru the Epistles, including ACTS of course, did you see a description of the people who were dead to the world and the world was dead to them ? People who were daily full of peace, joy, and righteousness ? People who were chastised/ scourged/ reprimanded/ edified/ encouraged/ uplifted/ and even banned by Yahweh's Directions ? (daily) People who walked DAILY in UNION with JESUS, one with Jesus as Jesus and the Father are one ? Good if the Father revealed all this and more to you.
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Post by Cletus on Feb 28, 2020 17:47:19 GMT -5
Repentance is drop it like a hot potato, turn 180 degrees and walk away and do not return and pick it back up.
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Post by frienduff on Feb 28, 2020 20:24:45 GMT -5
Repentance is drop it like a hot potato, turn 180 degrees and walk away and do not return and pick it back up. Yep . drop it like its hot . Short and right to the point . Thank you for the lovely reminder .
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Post by Tabitha3319 on Feb 28, 2020 20:33:03 GMT -5
I think a lot of times I used to try what I call "sin management".
I would work on one sin one day and another sin another day.
But accepting any sin is not okay. It's all from one source, the flesh. We must die to the flesh and live to Christ.
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Post by frienduff on Feb 28, 2020 20:34:10 GMT -5
I think a lot of times I used to try what I call "sin management". I would work on one sin one day and another sin another day. But accepting any sin is not okay. It's all from one source, the flesh. We must die to the flesh and live to Christ. SPOT ON RIGHT . now hands up and praise the LORD .
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Post by Tabitha3319 on Feb 28, 2020 20:49:22 GMT -5
I think a lot of times I used to try what I call "sin management". I would work on one sin one day and another sin another day. But accepting any sin is not okay. It's all from one source, the flesh. We must die to the flesh and live to Christ. SPOT ON RIGHT . now hands up and praise the LORD . \o/Hallelujah!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 29, 2020 11:48:35 GMT -5
So, when I read the Apostles letters, I notice that they'll say things past tense when it comes to repentance. A lot of people teach that repentance is something you must constantly do to deal with sin. However, when I read the Apostles letter, I feel like they also expected a full repentance of all sin as soon as they became Christians. The reason I say this is because for most of my Christian life, I tried sin management instead of reckoning myself dead to sin. When I finally resolved to completely get rid of sin and live in full obedience to Christ, then all the promises became true. My theory is that I merely caught up to the point that the Apostles expected their audience to be in. I feel like historical believers would have had a clearer understanding of Jesus as a literal Lord and Master. I think we must continually confess any sin and repent to receive forgiveness, but true repentance leads to a state of full surrender to God. Not partial management of particular sins. Amen......"Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord; " (Acts 3:19).....being born again. Have you been born again honey.....sometimes we can get off to a rocky start as new believers and unfamiliar with His ways, but the Lord is so faithful to teach us and lead us into His truth. .
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Post by 777 on Feb 29, 2020 14:11:15 GMT -5
I think a lot of times I used to try what I call "sin management". I would work on one sin one day and another sin another day. But accepting any sin is not okay. It's all from one source, the flesh. We must die to the flesh and live to Christ. I think it is more about doing our best to do what we know is right in all areas. It is about taking up our cross daily to follow Christ.
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Post by John on Feb 29, 2020 16:45:01 GMT -5
Repentance is drop it like a hot potato, turn 180 degrees and walk away and do not return and pick it back up. I love that Cletus! It is a great word picture we can all relate to. You can't hold onto a hot potato for long.
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