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Post by frienduff on Feb 28, 2020 10:36:31 GMT -5
ME AND TRIPLES POSTED OUR LIKES AT THE IDENTICAL SAME TIME . THAT WAS FUNNY . I SEEN THEM POP UP TOGETHER IN AN INSTANT .
YES , FOR THOSE WHO CONTINUE FAITHFUL UNTO THE END , THE SAME SHALL BE SAVED . AND THOSE WERE JESUS OWN WORDS . TO THE END .
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Post by Tabitha3319 on Feb 28, 2020 10:38:05 GMT -5
ME AND TRIPLES POSTED OUR LIKES AT THE IDENTICAL SAME TIME . THAT WAS FUNNY . I SEEN THEM POP UP TOGETHER IN AN INSTANT . YES , FOR THOSE WHO CONTINUE FAITHFUL UNTO THE END , THE SAME SHALL BE SAVED . AND THOSE WERE JESUS OWN WORDS . TO THE END . When I look back and see you and the others faithfully standing on the truth, I remember to be encouraged.
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Post by frienduff on Feb 28, 2020 10:41:07 GMT -5
That's right sister . be encouraged . These are highly dark times and many deceivers abound both outside the churches and inside the churches . YES , many even come in HIS NAME , and yet come only to deceive . We in those days more than ever . And the lambs must continue in JESUS CHRIST , loving all things HE did say and teach , all things the apostels did say and teach , and continue faithful IN HIM to the end . So , leap up and PRAISE THE LORD SISTER . OH YES , PRAISE THE LORD .
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Post by Cletus on Feb 28, 2020 18:24:12 GMT -5
I have a favor to ask of you guys. Don't stop coming against OSAS. Yesterday, I read 1 Timothy and got convicted of trying to have authority over men with teaching. I think me addressing women is fine (Titus 2). I can help women, but the main preachers of OSAS and hyper-grace are men. I ask because I used to listen to men like this and was in a constant state of confusion, producing failure in my walk with God. If not to change the osas camp, to help those looking on and observing who are unsure who's right and who's wrong. Think of me as the little sister on the sidelines cheering you guys on, praying for ya'll and standing with you in Spirit. Sister, did your conviction come from chapter two?... because if its the two verses i am thinking of that is instruction from Paul to another man how to have order in gatherings of saints. I encourage you to really pray about this and seek God. its not good for a woman to try and be a pastor but a woman teaching or proclaiming the gospel to man or teaching or prophesying or exhorting is not strictly forbidden. dont believe it? behold:
Act 18:24 And a certain Jew named Apollos, born at Alexandria, an eloquent man, and mighty in the scriptures, came to Ephesus. Act 18:25 This man was instructed in the way of the Lord; and being fervent in the spirit, he spake and taught diligently the things of the Lord, knowing only the baptism of John. Act 18:26 And he began to speak boldly in the synagogue: whom when Aquila and Priscilla had heard, they took him unto them, and expounded unto him the way of God more perfectly.
there is a difference between being over a man, that is being in a position over a man like say pastor and then just fellowshipping or teaching. If what you say to a man is trying to expound the way of God more perfectly... whats the problem? did aquila and priscilla sin by telling a man... and even more did they try to be head over a man?
i encourage you to really seek Gods face on this. and not only that but to be sensitive to The Spirit. if God has you speak to a man to expound then i think you should. if The Spirit has you not say a word then i think you should.
please ask God to show you where the line is you dont pass. and if in the process you proceed to far, dont beat yourself up, just repent and move on. live and learn. sometimes we learn by failing. you have a part of Christ in you, you are apart of the body, and the other parts need what you got. its about the attitude of the heart. but i just gave you scripture where two women took a man to the side and wait, a man who was used by God mightily in Acts, and they didnt do nothing bad.
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Post by Tabitha3319 on Feb 28, 2020 19:44:35 GMT -5
I have a favor to ask of you guys. Don't stop coming against OSAS. Yesterday, I read 1 Timothy and got convicted of trying to have authority over men with teaching. I think me addressing women is fine (Titus 2). I can help women, but the main preachers of OSAS and hyper-grace are men. I ask because I used to listen to men like this and was in a constant state of confusion, producing failure in my walk with God. If not to change the osas camp, to help those looking on and observing who are unsure who's right and who's wrong. Think of me as the little sister on the sidelines cheering you guys on, praying for ya'll and standing with you in Spirit. Sister, did your conviction come from chapter two?... because if its the two verses i am thinking of that is instruction from Paul to another man how to have order in gatherings of saints. I encourage you to really pray about this and seek God. its not good for a woman to try and be a pastor but a woman teaching or proclaiming the gospel to man or teaching or prophesying or exhorting is not strictly forbidden. dont believe it? behold:
Act 18:24 And a certain Jew named Apollos, born at Alexandria, an eloquent man, and mighty in the scriptures, came to Ephesus. Act 18:25 This man was instructed in the way of the Lord; and being fervent in the spirit, he spake and taught diligently the things of the Lord, knowing only the baptism of John. Act 18:26 And he began to speak boldly in the synagogue: whom when Aquila and Priscilla had heard, they took him unto them, and expounded unto him the way of God more perfectly.
there is a difference between being over a man, that is being in a position over a man like say pastor and then just fellowshipping or teaching. If what you say to a man is trying to expound the way of God more perfectly... whats the problem? did aquila and priscilla sin by telling a man... and even more did they try to be head over a man?
i encourage you to really seek Gods face on this. and not only that but to be sensitive to The Spirit. if God has you speak to a man to expound then i think you should. if The Spirit has you not say a word then i think you should.
please ask God to show you where the line is you dont pass. and if in the process you proceed to far, dont beat yourself up, just repent and move on. live and learn. sometimes we learn by failing. you have a part of Christ in you, you are apart of the body, and the other parts need what you got. its about the attitude of the heart. but i just gave you scripture where two women took a man to the side and wait, a man who was used by God mightily in Acts, and they didnt do nothing bad.
Thank you for that Scripture. When I read Timothy 2 my response was that I would stop teaching men until I got further clarification from Scripture. Right now, I know that I hate false teaching. Sometimes, a man will ask a question, and the appropriate Scripture will come to mind. I will keep in mind the example you gave.
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Post by frienduff on Feb 28, 2020 20:27:17 GMT -5
Sister, did your conviction come from chapter two?... because if its the two verses i am thinking of that is instruction from Paul to another man how to have order in gatherings of saints. I encourage you to really pray about this and seek God. its not good for a woman to try and be a pastor but a woman teaching or proclaiming the gospel to man or teaching or prophesying or exhorting is not strictly forbidden. dont believe it? behold:
Act 18:24 And a certain Jew named Apollos, born at Alexandria, an eloquent man, and mighty in the scriptures, came to Ephesus. Act 18:25 This man was instructed in the way of the Lord; and being fervent in the spirit, he spake and taught diligently the things of the Lord, knowing only the baptism of John. Act 18:26 And he began to speak boldly in the synagogue: whom when Aquila and Priscilla had heard, they took him unto them, and expounded unto him the way of God more perfectly.
there is a difference between being over a man, that is being in a position over a man like say pastor and then just fellowshipping or teaching. If what you say to a man is trying to expound the way of God more perfectly... whats the problem? did aquila and priscilla sin by telling a man... and even more did they try to be head over a man?
i encourage you to really seek Gods face on this. and not only that but to be sensitive to The Spirit. if God has you speak to a man to expound then i think you should. if The Spirit has you not say a word then i think you should.
please ask God to show you where the line is you dont pass. and if in the process you proceed to far, dont beat yourself up, just repent and move on. live and learn. sometimes we learn by failing. you have a part of Christ in you, you are apart of the body, and the other parts need what you got. its about the attitude of the heart. but i just gave you scripture where two women took a man to the side and wait, a man who was used by God mightily in Acts, and they didnt do nothing bad.
Thank you for that Scripture. When I read Timothy 2 my response was that I would stop teaching men until I got further clarification from Scripture. Right now, I know that I hate false teaching. Sometimes, a man will ask a question, and the appropriate Scripture will come to mind. I will keep in mind the example you gave. That's right sister . we hate that false doctrine . read proverbs . to hate every evil way . exactly . lambs don't have any taste for false doctrine . lambs LOVE TRUTH .
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Post by Cletus on Feb 28, 2020 23:37:21 GMT -5
Sister, did your conviction come from chapter two?... because if its the two verses i am thinking of that is instruction from Paul to another man how to have order in gatherings of saints. I encourage you to really pray about this and seek God. its not good for a woman to try and be a pastor but a woman teaching or proclaiming the gospel to man or teaching or prophesying or exhorting is not strictly forbidden. dont believe it? behold:
Act 18:24 And a certain Jew named Apollos, born at Alexandria, an eloquent man, and mighty in the scriptures, came to Ephesus. Act 18:25 This man was instructed in the way of the Lord; and being fervent in the spirit, he spake and taught diligently the things of the Lord, knowing only the baptism of John. Act 18:26 And he began to speak boldly in the synagogue: whom when Aquila and Priscilla had heard, they took him unto them, and expounded unto him the way of God more perfectly.
there is a difference between being over a man, that is being in a position over a man like say pastor and then just fellowshipping or teaching. If what you say to a man is trying to expound the way of God more perfectly... whats the problem? did aquila and priscilla sin by telling a man... and even more did they try to be head over a man?
i encourage you to really seek Gods face on this. and not only that but to be sensitive to The Spirit. if God has you speak to a man to expound then i think you should. if The Spirit has you not say a word then i think you should.
please ask God to show you where the line is you dont pass. and if in the process you proceed to far, dont beat yourself up, just repent and move on. live and learn. sometimes we learn by failing. you have a part of Christ in you, you are apart of the body, and the other parts need what you got. its about the attitude of the heart. but i just gave you scripture where two women took a man to the side and wait, a man who was used by God mightily in Acts, and they didnt do nothing bad.
Thank you for that Scripture. When I read Timothy 2 my response was that I would stop teaching men until I got further clarification from Scripture. Right now, I know that I hate false teaching. Sometimes, a man will ask a question, and the appropriate Scripture will come to mind. I will keep in mind the example you gave. have you ever received the baptism of The Holy Spirit?
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Post by Tabitha3319 on Feb 29, 2020 2:19:48 GMT -5
Thank you for that Scripture. When I read Timothy 2 my response was that I would stop teaching men until I got further clarification from Scripture. Right now, I know that I hate false teaching. Sometimes, a man will ask a question, and the appropriate Scripture will come to mind. I will keep in mind the example you gave. have you ever received the baptism of The Holy Spirit? My husband and I used to attend this Apostolic Pentecostal church. The pastor preached a sermon about the centurion gentile who received the Holy Spirit. He said, I don't know who this message is for. You're already a good and pious person. You just lack one thing. I came to the altar for prayer and begin to focus on Jesus and how I wanted to be Holy and acceptable. I wanted whatever He wanted. Then when the members started speaking in tongues, I did too. However, I haven't been able to speak in tongues privately. But when I learned about obedience and repentance, I began to manifest the fruit of the Spirit and my life improved %1000. The result has been sin falling away, more witnessing, more productivity at home, being a better wife and just being able to accomplish more with less. So, maybe?
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Post by John on Feb 29, 2020 17:10:59 GMT -5
I realized that some of us unintentionally derailed a thread in the Witnessing & Evangelism section, talking about things that had nothing to do with the topic, so I thought I would start a thread over here to talk about whatever. Maybe John would want to start a section for something like that, or we could just talk about anything in this one thread and have one massive single thread? What do you all think. Good idea, or is it just me? Curious if anyone gets the inside joke? That is clever, or is it just me? I think I will just leave it as a thread for now, because the Fellowship area is in place where someone can start a thread on most any topic they want to talk about. Maybe I will do something like that as a sub-topic if others are interested.
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Post by John on Feb 29, 2020 17:19:32 GMT -5
Imagine how Moses must have felt when he had been in the presence of Almighty God, then went down to see the Hebrews worshipping the golden calf. That's what it's like when you're in your Bible, but then you go to a "Christian" Facebook group. I have been kicked out of a couple of Facebook groups. One was a Christian group, but it was a bunch of liberal thinkers. It was started by a guy that used to be active at Worthy that goes by Golden Eagle. He invited me to join, and even though I knew I wouldn't fit in, I did anyway. It didn't take long before I was butting heads with the less than Biblical things being discussed, and when I was at odds with the wife of the man who started it, I was kicked out. There were no hard feelings on my part, because unlike Worthy Christian Forums, where they pretend they allow for any beliefs that don't go against their Statement of Faith, but that is a lie, this man was up front about what his group was about. We parted ways on good terms.
Then more recently, I was kicked out of a "Flat Earth" group. No, I am not a flat earther, but I was genuinely interested in knowing how they think, so I went there to learn. There was no strife over flat earth, but I was under assault from a bunch of atheist trolls after they found out I was a Christian. They baited me into telling them what I thought about the topic of homosexuals, and when I said it was a sin, and a mental disorder, I was said to be guilty of hate speech and kicked out. I was asked, so I told them. I didn't go there to discuss such things. I thought it was all about flat earth. You will find all types of mess at Facebook.
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Post by John on Feb 29, 2020 17:27:25 GMT -5
One lady railed at me for the Scripture I posted on how we are to break fellowship with "Christians" who live in sin. She said I was harsh, hardhearted, judgemental...and in danger of judgement. Another said the word sinner is a toxic cultural Christian term. 😤 I think I handled it well through God's grace. But oh my gosh. I need to make a rule for myself: never go on social media right after special God time. I dunno, the contrast between God's presence and the complaining was just so sharp It is sad, but that is how the church at large is today. We are not supposed to stand against sin. We are not to encourage Bible reading. We are not to promote discipleship. We are supposed to preach lies like Bloodbought does where he says God demands nothing from us except faith. Believe in him and live like you please. Live conservative if you want, but keep it to yourself.
This would be so foreign to the early church, and people that preach those heresies are the ones that need to worry about the judgment. You were doing the right thing. Bad company corrupts good manners. If a brother or sister is a fornicator, we are told not even to eat with them. I guess according to these people, Paul was harsh, hardhearted, judgmental and in danger of the judgment.
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Post by John on Feb 29, 2020 17:31:49 GMT -5
Are the leaders giving bad advise and calling you judgmental, or is it the regular members? It's regular members. The leaders may be involved in deleting posts but it's not like John, intervening with posts. I think from now on, if someone argues directly against Scripture, I'll ignore it. In a place like that, it would probably be wise. Had I known why I was being asked about homosexuality in that one group, I would have handled it different. I wasn't among Christians, so I was casting pearls before swine, and they turned around and attacked me. The atheist couldn't withstand my words, as I defended God and the Bible, so he set me up, knowing that the moment I honestly answered his question, I would be kicked out for hate speech.
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Post by Tabitha3319 on Feb 29, 2020 17:39:48 GMT -5
It's regular members. The leaders may be involved in deleting posts but it's not like John, intervening with posts. I think from now on, if someone argues directly against Scripture, I'll ignore it. In a place like that, it would probably be wise. Had I known why I was being asked about homosexuality in that one group, I would have handled it different. I wasn't among Christians, so I was casting pearls before swine, and they turned around and attacked me. The atheist couldn't withstand my words, as I defended God and the Bible, so he set me up, knowing that the moment I honestly answered his question, I would be kicked out for hate speech.
In every debate online, there's always people with different soils. By soil, I mean their receptiveness to truth and the gospel. You may be confronted by some Rocky sounding people. But you just never know how many seeds gets planted among the people who are still unsure. I used to think you were radical. But it stuck. By confronting Osas, you forced me to read Scripture to find out whether you were right or your opponents were.
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Post by John on Feb 29, 2020 17:45:31 GMT -5
In a place like that, it would probably be wise. Had I known why I was being asked about homosexuality in that one group, I would have handled it different. I wasn't among Christians, so I was casting pearls before swine, and they turned around and attacked me. The atheist couldn't withstand my words, as I defended God and the Bible, so he set me up, knowing that the moment I honestly answered his question, I would be kicked out for hate speech.
In every debate online, there's always people with different soils. By soil, I mean their receptiveness to truth and the gospel. You may be confronted by some Rocky sounding people. But you just never know how many seeds gets planted among the people who are still unsure. I used to think you were radical. But it stuck. By confronting Osas, you forced me to read Scripture to find out whether you were right or your opponents were. That is good to know. I suppose I am radical to most today, but what makes me come across that way? I just hold to a literal interpretation of the KJV Bible, and believe we should follow it's teachings exactly as written, even when it goes against cultural norms. Of course today, that is radical.
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Post by Tabitha3319 on Feb 29, 2020 17:59:27 GMT -5
In every debate online, there's always people with different soils. By soil, I mean their receptiveness to truth and the gospel. You may be confronted by some Rocky sounding people. But you just never know how many seeds gets planted among the people who are still unsure. I used to think you were radical. But it stuck. By confronting Osas, you forced me to read Scripture to find out whether you were right or your opponents were. That is good to know. I suppose I am radical to most today, but what makes me come across that way? I just hold to a literal interpretation of the KJV Bible, and believe we should follow it's teachings exactly as written, even when it goes against cultural norms. Of course today, that is radical.
I think I understand. Once God reveals truth to you, it's hard to remember what it's like to walk in lies. But I think Scripture teaches that God purposely blinds those who refuse to seek Him. When we seek Him, He removes the blinders. But modern believers are Scripture deficient.
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