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Post by Tabitha3319 on Mar 7, 2020 17:45:49 GMT -5
What is the evidence or signs of true salvation?
What are the signs of a false teacher?
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Post by John on Mar 7, 2020 18:49:37 GMT -5
What is the evidence or signs of true salvation? What are the signs of a false teacher? I will give you the most obvious evidence of salvation, a changed life. In the story of the salvation of Zacchaeus, notice what happens. Luke 19:8-10
And Zacchaeus stood and said unto the Lord; Behold, Lord, the half of my goods I give to the poor; and if I have taken any thing from any man by false accusation, I restore him four-fold. And Jeuss said unto him, This day is salvation come to this house, forsomuch as he also is a son of Abraham. For the Son of man is come to seek and to save that which was lost.
How can we recognize a false teacher? A false teacher is anyone that teaches things that are contrary to the Bible. The only way you can recognize a false teacher is if you know the Bible yourself. Most of the time, false teachers come with some truth.
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Post by Tabitha3319 on Mar 7, 2020 22:33:56 GMT -5
What is the evidence or signs of true salvation? What are the signs of a false teacher? I will give you the most obvious evidence of salvation, a changed life. In the story of the salvation of Zacchaeus, notice what happens. Luke 19:8-10
And Zacchaeus stood and said unto the Lord; Behold, Lord, the half of my goods I give to the poor; and if I have taken any thing from any man by false accusation, I restore him four-fold. And Jeuss said unto him, This day is salvation come to this house, forsomuch as he also is a son of Abraham. For the Son of man is come to seek and to save that which was lost.
How can we recognize a false teacher? A false teacher is anyone that teaches things that are contrary to the Bible. The only way you can recognize a false teacher is if you know the Bible yourself. Most of the time, false teachers come with some truth.
I used to think it was impossible to go a day without sinning. After fully repenting, the sin kind of fell off after a while. I could pick it back up but I have no wish to. People get angry when you tell them you don't sin all the time. But it's not because of self-effort. It's because the Spirit of God is keeping you.
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Post by frienduff on Mar 8, 2020 9:13:37 GMT -5
How shall we know all we need to know . By knowing THE LORD and Learning HIM well in that bible . We need not to learn one ounce from the false , or their ways . Let us learn the KING well and all those apostels wrote too . If one comes teaching contrary to HIM and His pattern and uses words and hermeutics to justify their agenda , FLEE . We have all we need IN CHRIST . THE SPIRIT is our guide , and if any has the SPIRIT they would love the pure words of our KING and of those apostels . For God giveth a new heart with new desires and those desires are to please HIM , walking in the Spirit . And the fruit of the Spirit IS in all goodness , righteousness and truth . Proving what is ACCEPTPABLE TO GOD . Thus if any supports that which is not pleasing , not acceptable to GOD , they are not speaking by the SPIRIT , but by the flesh . A lamb feasts on and loves truth . Thus if any comes preaching a love , a freedom , a unity , a liberty , a anything that is contrary to CHRIST , or what the apostels wrote , contrary to sound doctrine , lambs better flee it .
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Post by Tabitha3319 on Mar 8, 2020 9:22:41 GMT -5
How shall we know all we need to know . By knowing THE LORD and Learning HIM well in that bible . We need not to learn one ounce from the false , or their ways . Let us learn the KING well and all those apostels wrote too . If one comes teaching contrary to HIM and His pattern and uses words and hermeutics to justify their agenda , FLEE . We have all we need IN CHRIST . THE SPIRIT is our guide , and if any has the SPIRIT they would love the pure words of our KING and of those apostels . For God giveth a new heart with new desires and those desires are to please HIM , walking in the Spirit . And the fruit of the Spirit IS in all goodness , righteousness and truth . Proving what is ACCEPTPABLE TO GOD . Thus if any supports that which is not pleasing , not acceptable to GOD , they are not speaking by the SPIRIT , but by the flesh . A lamb feasts on and loves truth . Thus if any comes preaching a love , a freedom , a unity , a liberty , a anything that is contrary to CHRIST , or what the apostels wrote , contrary to sound doctrine , lambs better flee it . I feel some song lyrics about false teaching coming on. Thank you, Frienduff
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Post by Cletus on Mar 8, 2020 22:14:51 GMT -5
by their fruits you will know them
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2020 14:49:01 GMT -5
The Lord recently opened my eyes to this matter. Cletus hits the nail on the head regarding knowing them by their fruit: falsehoods, accusations, petty bickering, and pride being among those I've noticed in the wolves who are stalking the Lord's flock. frienduff mentions hermeneutics, another giveaway that we're dealing with a false teacher. I'll add those who allude to mysteries, using such a thing as an introduction to pitch their non-biblical pet doctrine altering the words of God thereby. Without fail these emphasize portions of verses or passages to build the delusion they possess knowledge of "spiritual mysteries."
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Post by frienduff on May 5, 2020 15:13:44 GMT -5
The Lord recently opened my eyes to this matter. Cletus hits the nail on the head regarding knowing them by their fruit: falsehoods, accusations, petty bickering, and pride being among those I've noticed in the wolves who are stalking the Lord's flock. frienduff mentions hermeneutics, another giveaway that we're dealing with a false teacher. I'll add those who allude to mysteries, using such a thing as an introduction to pitch their non-biblical pet doctrine altering the words of God thereby. Without fail these emphasize portions of verses or passages to build the delusion they possess knowledge of "spiritual mysteries." MY SHEEP hear MY VOICE . exactly dusty . by their fruits ye shall know them . and they are often so filled with pride . so filled with the glamour of mens wisdom and hermenutics . This lil wee thing simply needs and relies ON THE KING . You are right dusty , what they do is they build the scriptures on a preconcieved idea . INSTEAD of letting the SPIRIT reveal TRUTH they instead find a pet doctrine and learn the bible FROM THAT LENS , from that ANGLE . example . Osas . THEY learn that doctrine . THEN all they see is OSAS in the verses they bring . THEY cant discern it . And its not just OSAS , i watch PROSPERITY ones do the same thing . But by thier fruits ye shall know them . DID JESUS ever say , GO GET THAT MONEY , HEAP ITUP , YOU A KINGS KID . NOPE . HE SAID quite the contrary . YET to a prosperity lover they see their own hearts desire in the scripture , INSTEAD OF SEEING THE TRUTH IN THE SCRIPTURE . and that is simply this , IF JESUS said it , THEN the scrips wont contradict it . HENCE if a man loves JESUS , HE SEES THE SCRIPS as he ought too . IF a man loves self and cares and pleasures in life , THEN by the flesh that IS HOW he will see the scripture . THEKEY always has been JESUS . And if we love HIM its seen by our obediance TO HIM . Mouth is mouth , but HEART IS HEART . what a man loves , will determine what a man sees . AND THAT IS A FACT . BUT thanks be to GOD , and HE ALONE , that he puts the pure true love into a heart of a lamb . AND that lamb LOVETH HIS KING .
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2020 16:26:16 GMT -5
The Lord recently opened my eyes to this matter. Cletus hits the nail on the head regarding knowing them by their fruit: falsehoods, accusations, petty bickering, and pride being among those I've noticed in the wolves who are stalking the Lord's flock. frienduff mentions hermeneutics, another giveaway that we're dealing with a false teacher. I'll add those who allude to mysteries, using such a thing as an introduction to pitch their non-biblical pet doctrine altering the words of God thereby. Without fail these emphasize portions of verses or passages to build the delusion they possess knowledge of "spiritual mysteries." MY SHEEP hear MY VOICE . exactly dusty . by their fruits ye shall know them . and they are often so filled with pride . so filled with the glamour of mens wisdom and hermenutics . This lil wee thing simply needs and relies ON THE KING . You are right dusty , what they do is they build the scriptures on a preconcieved idea . INSTEAD of letting the SPIRIT reveal TRUTH they instead find a pet doctrine and learn the bible FROM THAT LENS , from that ANGLE . example . Osas . THEY learn that doctrine . THEN all they see is OSAS in the verses they bring . THEY cant discern it . And its not just OSAS , i watch PROSPERITY ones do the same thing . But by thier fruits ye shall know them . DID JESUS ever say , GO GET THAT MONEY , HEAP ITUP , YOU A KINGS KID . NOPE . HE SAID quite the contrary . YET to a prosperity lover they see their own hearts desire in the scripture , INSTEAD OF SEEING THE TRUTH IN THE SCRIPTURE . and that is simply this , IF JESUS said it , THEN the scrips wont contradict it . HENCE if a man loves JESUS , HE SEES THE SCRIPS as he ought too . IF a man loves self and cares and pleasures in life , THEN by the flesh that IS HOW he will see the scripture . THEKEY always has been JESUS . And if we love HIM its seen by our obediance TO HIM . Mouth is mouth , but HEART IS HEART . what a man loves , will determine what a man sees . AND THAT IS A FACT . BUT thanks be to GOD , and HE ALONE , that he puts the pure true love into a heart of a lamb . AND that lamb LOVETH HIS KING . Amen! Another way to spot 'em: their hatred of the scriptures. Share the words of God and they protest. Every time. "That doesn't mean what you think it does..." "Let's look at the word 'repentance.'" "But that doesn't mean they aren't saved..." Every time!
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