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Post by frienduff on May 13, 2020 12:57:20 GMT -5
THEY PUT NO DIFFERENCE between the HOLY WORD of GOD and the words of men . Fact is they reverance the words of men , NOT THE WORDS OF GOD . HOW is that for an example . yall dont know how much i have no desire for approval . but i can only hope one did not read this . OH FATHER , my prayer is , that one or none is being influenced by their own minds . THE BIBLE contains THY WORDS and all in it was SPIRIT INSPIRED . Ol frienduff is worried . |
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Post by frienduff on May 13, 2020 12:58:20 GMT -5
Let everyone , come and say , We cling to the bible , cause GOD INSPIRED IT . I need to hear it . i am worried right now .
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Post by frienduff on May 13, 2020 13:00:05 GMT -5
HOW MANY DO THAT . YALL KNOW the overwhemling majority do it . THEY DONT COUNT the words o JESUS AS HOLY , THEY DONT REVERANCE what he taught , they put the doctrines of men and make them as though they the precepts of GOD . AND YET , WHERE is the reverance FOR GOD IN THAT . THEY PUT no difference between the CLEAN and HOLY WORD of GOD and those twisted wacked out compromised teachings of men . IN fact , THEY actually CLING TO THE PROFANE words of men , NOT the HOLY WORD of GOD . HOW MANY DO THIS . HOW MANY CLING TO HERMES and will allow HIS HOLY WORDS to be twisted . I TELL US ALL , MANY are in dire , upmost peril of total grave danger . A LAMB WOULD REVERENCE EVERY WORD that COMETH OF THE MOUTH OF THE LORD . A lamb would LOVE IT , FOR IT CAME OF HIM . WE GOTTA STAND HOLY and DEFEND The truth like never before . OPEN THE HOLY BIBLE and close all ears to those profane words of men . TO the LORD be all glory . to my friends , I GOT only this to say , CLING to CHRIST , CLING to that bible , CLING CLING CLING . |
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Post by frienduff on May 13, 2020 13:03:24 GMT -5
No, sorry, that isn't all we need. We need the Lord to give us insight too brother.....we need to rely on Him....He doesn't always stick to context....often He says something that also goes beyond the logical context. Sometimes there is even a prophecy within a prophecy so to speak. Anyway, I wont belabour any of this, enough said if anyone wants to give it a ponder.. Have a blessed day. NO HE WONT . OH dear triple sevens i am worried right now . You just dont know how woried i am . IF we begin to go down a trail which teaches us not the simplicity found in Christ , in that bible THEN WE can SO called THINK UP anything and THINK WE HEAR FROM GOD . when in truth , its our over active mind . |
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Post by 777 on May 13, 2020 13:08:12 GMT -5
I agree to a point, but God will never contradict scripture, not ever. NO HE WONT . OH dear triple sevens i am worried right now . You just dont know how woried i am . IF we begin to go down a trail which teaches us not the simplicity found in Christ , in that bible THEN WE can SO called THINK UP anything and THINK WE HEAR FROM GOD . when in truth , its our over active mind . |
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Post by frienduff on May 13, 2020 13:25:15 GMT -5
NO HE WONT . OH dear triple sevens i am worried right now . You just dont know how woried i am . IF we begin to go down a trail which teaches us not the simplicity found in Christ , in that bible THEN WE can SO called THINK UP anything and THINK WE HEAR FROM GOD . when in truth , its our over active mind . I agree my friend . All i desire is all out love for the truth in those bibles . We can do this , THE LORD IS WITH US . But i truly beleive we need a child like return to that bible . As i am sure i am not alone . OTHERS agree too . |
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Post by watchful on May 13, 2020 13:59:16 GMT -5
Oh we must have a single eye on Christ, amen to that. And I agree with not serving 2 masters, just not sure what you mean by it. Brother not long ago I used to think that we should keep one eye on the Lord and the other eye figuring out what the devil was up to. Now I am finding out that we need to keep both eyes on the Lord entirely and when we do He lights our way and guides us, completely without our help. We are in the world so I know we can't really help what information comes our way, and we even find out things we wish we hadn't. But it's like we are not to have one foot in the world and the other foot in God's kingdom...and also that we can't be leaning on our own understanding and that of the Lord at the same time...that is like having two masters. If we keep our minds stayed on Him He will not only lead us through but keep us in His perfect peace as well. It might not make sense, I know, but that is what I'm finding out and experiencing. The more we are relying on Him and not on ourselves or others, the better....becoming like little children depending on the Lord, and walking in His kingdom, not walking in both worlds. Isa 42:16
I will lead the blind by ways they have not known, along unfamiliar paths I will guide them; I will turn the darkness into light before them and make the rough places smooth. These are the things I will do; I will not forsake them.
Isa 42:19
Who is blind but my servant, and deaf like the messenger I send? Who is blind like the one in covenant with me, blind like the servant of the LORD?
Isa 30:20-21
Although the Lord gives you the bread of adversity and the water of affliction, your teachers will be hidden no more; with your own eyes you will see them.
Whether you turn to the right or to the left, your ears will hear a voice behind you, saying, “This is the way; walk in it.”
We have to first become blind and deaf before we can see and hear, before the Lord can give us sight and hearing. That is, we need to forsake our own understanding, and our own judgments and conclusions, of judging by the seeing of the eye and hearing of the ear and look to the Lord instead. Not look to Him as well, but look to Him exclusively. The word of God says to lean not to our own understanding, but in all our ways acknowledge God. Does it say to lean on our own understanding as well as leaning on God's understanding at the same time? No, it means to not lean on our own understanding AT ALL and rely on the Lord completely.....be looking to Him and relying on Him with a single focus. We need to forsake leaning on our own understanding, we need to forsake trusting in the seeing of our eye completely........and learn to understand and see by the Holy Spirit. Become a fool in order to become wise, as the word says. |
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Post by watchful on May 13, 2020 14:23:44 GMT -5
In your view is someone always in the flesh, if they are informed about what their government stands for or not? It's important that we dont' mix the holy with the profane/common. We shouldn't confuse ordinary secular activity as something holy or as being of His Spirit and righteousness. Being informed....is not a virtue from heaven's point of view....it's nothing holy, God doesn't 'require' it, but it's just something practical we do as part of living in the world, like putting on your socks or going to the hardware store, or checking out the grocery store sales. Some individuals are more or less informed than others, depending on many factors....how much time they have to devote to being informed, how much interest, how much opportunity, how much natural intellectual ability they have, etc. If we devote too much time to being informed I'm sure that isn't even pleasing to the Lord, but keeping our eyes on the Him and being led by Him is what pleases Him and every believer can and needs to do that....that is part of holiness and walking on the Way. But being informed has nothing to do with being on the Way and holiness. God is not a man that He should lie, so really why should we put much stock in what men say anyhow......so much of what we hear/read are lies of mankind.....the only thing that matters is what is God's will, what is the FATHER doing, what does He intend to do....men have so many differing opinions, conjecture, fortune telling, speculation, rumour, gossip, and things they say are fickle and influenced by so many things such as politics, personal biases...etc. This even extends to the realm of science. And oh my, there's a huge amount of "babble" out there.  Hmmm... Anyway, hope that helps to understand what I mean by these things. |
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Post by watchful on May 13, 2020 14:46:16 GMT -5
profane. , not sacred , commmon , profane . not concerned with religion or religous matters . secular . Irreverant towards God or holy things . speaking , spoken , acting or done in contempt of sacred things . blasphemous, as profane words or langauge . to treat as if is profane , not Holy . syn . impious , godless, ungodly , irreverant , irreligious , unholy, unhallowed , unsanctified , secular , temporal wordly . profane . to treat as if profane or not sacred . (LIKE MANY CHURCHES TREAT THE WORDS OF GOD , as THOUGH THEY ARE NOT HOLY AND TOTAL TRUTH ) to Violate , to treat with irreverance , THEY DONT REVERANCE GODS WORD . my eyes are swelling up with tears . i can only hope a sister did not read this . She did read the other statement and put a like on it . But this one was left blank . OH HOLY FATHER , my prayer is , that no one is being led astray from THEY HOLY WORDS in that bible . MEN are snakes in the grass , BUT YOU OH LORD , are indeed the only hope we have . You can wipe away your tears brother....I think I skimmed that post but was confused as to your point, I couldn't relate it to what we were talking about so I passed it by. Of course we are to reverence God's word and not treat it as common. And really handling the word of God with our natural mind (hands of flesh) is treating it as common....reverencing it means we are using the poles (Spirit). I mostly can't keep up with an entire thread any more, not even close.....hardly ever read all posts in a thread, and when following a line of discussion, I try to maintain focus, which takes effort, I dont have the flexibility to jump from one train of thought to another and back again, lol. |
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Post by watchful on May 13, 2020 15:01:44 GMT -5
I agree to a point, but God will never contradict scripture, not ever. NO HE WONT . OH dear triple sevens i am worried right now . You just dont know how woried i am . IF we begin to go down a trail which teaches us not the simplicity found in Christ , in that bible THEN WE can SO called THINK UP anything and THINK WE HEAR FROM GOD . when in truth , its our over active mind . Well you just let me know where my mind has been overactive here brother.....please point it out. And if anyone sees where I have contradicted scripture .....please point it out. Or is it possible you are just not clear on what I'm saying....I've tried to clarify, so see if any of that resolves your concerns.. |
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Post by John on May 13, 2020 18:51:45 GMT -5
Brother not long ago I used to think that we should keep one eye on the Lord and the other eye figuring out what the devil was up to. Now I am finding out that we need to keep both eyes on the Lord entirely and when we do He lights our way and guides us, completely without our help. We are in the world so I know we can't really help what information comes our way, and we even find out things we wish we hadn't. But it's like we are not to have one foot in the world and the other foot in God's kingdom...and also that we can't be leaning on our own understanding and that of the Lord at the same time...that is like having two masters. If we keep our minds stayed on Him He will not only lead us through but keep us in His perfect peace as well. It might not make sense, I know, but that is what I'm finding out and experiencing. The more we are relying on Him and not on ourselves or others, the better....becoming like little children depending on the Lord, and walking in His kingdom, not walking in both worlds. Isa 42:16
I will lead the blind by ways they have not known, along unfamiliar paths I will guide them; I will turn the darkness into light before them and make the rough places smooth. These are the things I will do; I will not forsake them.
Isa 42:19
Who is blind but my servant, and deaf like the messenger I send? Who is blind like the one in covenant with me, blind like the servant of the LORD?
Isa 30:20-21
Although the Lord gives you the bread of adversity and the water of affliction, your teachers will be hidden no more; with your own eyes you will see them.
Whether you turn to the right or to the left, your ears will hear a voice behind you, saying, “This is the way; walk in it.”
We have to first become blind and deaf before we can see and hear, before the Lord can give us sight and hearing. That is, we need to forsake our own understanding, and our own judgments and conclusions, of judging by the seeing of the eye and hearing of the ear and look to the Lord instead. Not look to Him as well, but look to Him exclusively. The word of God says to lean not to our own understanding, but in all our ways acknowledge God. Does it say to lean on our own understanding as well as leaning on God's understanding at the same time? No, it means to not lean on our own understanding AT ALL and rely on the Lord completely.....be looking to Him and relying on Him with a single focus. We need to forsake leaning on our own understanding, we need to forsake trusting in the seeing of our eye completely........and learn to understand and see by the Holy Spirit. Become a fool in order to become wise, as the word says.
MY son, forget not my law; but let thine heart keep my commandments: For length of days, and long life, and peace, shall they add to thee. Let not mercy and truth forsake thee: bind them about thy neck; write them upon the table of thine heart: So shalt thou find favour and good understanding in the sight of God and man. Trust in the LORD with all thine hear; and lean not unto thine own understanding. In all thy ways acknowledge him, and he shall direct thy paths. Be not wise in thine own eyes: fear the LORD, and depart from evil. It shall be health to thy navel, and marrow to thy bones.
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Post by John on May 13, 2020 18:55:34 GMT -5
It's important that we dont' mix the holy with the profane/common. We shouldn't confuse ordinary secular activity as something holy or as being of His Spirit and righteousness. Being informed....is not a virtue from heaven's point of view....it's nothing holy, God doesn't 'require' it, but it's just something practical we do as part of living in the world, like putting on your socks or going to the hardware store, or checking out the grocery store sales. Some individuals are more or less informed than others, depending on many factors....how much time they have to devote to being informed, how much interest, how much opportunity, how much natural intellectual ability they have, etc. If we devote too much time to being informed I'm sure that isn't even pleasing to the Lord, but keeping our eyes on the Him and being led by Him is what pleases Him and every believer can and needs to do that....that is part of holiness and walking on the Way. But being informed has nothing to do with being on the Way and holiness. God is not a man that He should lie, so really why should we put much stock in what men say anyhow......so much of what we hear/read are lies of mankind.....the only thing that matters is what is God's will, what is the FATHER doing, what does He intend to do....men have so many differing opinions, conjecture, fortune telling, speculation, rumour, gossip, and things they say are fickle and influenced by so many things such as politics, personal biases...etc. This even extends to the realm of science. And oh my, there's a huge amount of "babble" out there. Hmmm... Anyway, hope that helps to understand what I mean by these things.
In full context, the Bible is speaking of the knowledge of God's laws, but the principal of being destroyed because of ignorance can be applied anywhere. It just makes sense to be informed about what is going on, so we can take measures to prepare for coming storms.
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Post by frienduff on May 13, 2020 19:02:00 GMT -5
Giller Being informed....is not a virtue from heaven's point of view....it's nothing holy, God doesn't 'require' it, but it's just something practical we do as part of living in the world, like putting on your socks or going to the hardware store, or checking out the grocery store sales. Some individuals are more or less informed than others, depending on many factors....how much time they have to devote to being informed, how much interest, how much opportunity, how much natural intellectual ability they have, etc. If we devote too much time to being informed I'm sure that isn't even pleasing to the Lord, but keeping our eyes on the Him and being led by Him is what pleases Him and every believer can and needs to do that....that is part of holiness and walking on the Way. But being informed has nothing to do with being on the Way and holiness. God is not a man that He should lie, so really why should we put much stock in what men say anyhow......so much of what we hear/read are lies of mankind.....the only thing that matters is what is God's will, what is the FATHER doing, what does He intend to do....men have so many differing opinions, conjecture, fortune telling, speculation, rumour, gossip, and things they say are fickle and influenced by so many things such as politics, personal biases...etc. This even extends to the realm of science. And oh my, there's a huge amount of "babble" out there. Hmmm... Anyway, hope that helps to understand what I mean by these things.
In full context, the Bible is speaking of the knowledge of God's laws, but the principal of being destroyed because of ignorance can be applied anywhere. It just makes sense to be informed about what is going on, so we can take measures to prepare for coming storms.
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Post by Giller on May 13, 2020 20:21:36 GMT -5
Watchful you can say what you want about me, I know I follow the lord, and that my eyes are fully on Jesus, I may not be perfect, but I am sure serving him, I will not even give some big response to the previous posts that you said about me.
If that is what you think of me, then so be it, I will not lose sleep over it, and I am trusting the Lord.
And I care not to argue with you back and forth.
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Post by watchful on May 13, 2020 20:43:37 GMT -5
Watchful you can say what you want about me, I know I follow the lord, and that my eyes are fully on Jesus, I may not be perfect, but I am sure serving him, I will not even give some big response to the previous posts that you said about me. If that is what you think of me, then so be it, I will not lose sleep over it, and I am trusting the Lord. And I care not to argue with you back and forth. Giller....I'm not thinking anything about you.....I addressed my posts to you to try and clarify what I meant in answer to the questions you asked....you've got the wrong end of the stick brother. Here is even my first post....it was not an attack....it was a caution about the speaker in the video you sent....but then a general word also cautioning and warning that we need to keep our eyes on Jesus rather than on the world per se: ________________________________________ As believers we really want to keep hold of heaven's perspective on things anyhow, and not give too much weight to conspiracy theories or it could lead us astray. It is the Lord who sends judgments and it is the Lord who raises and lowers kings and kingdoms, that's what He tells us in His word.....we need to give HIM His due glory and fear and not look to the world for answers or be leaning on our own understanding but acknowledge God and He will make our paths straight. As we keep our eyes on the Lord and follow Him, He will lead us and navigate us through whatever is going on in the world and that includes not receiving the mark of the beast. And actually I dont' believe it really matters what is going on in the world, I think we all can agree that it changes absolutely nothing about God's word, our obedience to Him, and His mandate for the church. Isa 8:11-13 This is what the LORD says to me with his strong hand upon me, warning me not to follow the way of this people: “Do not call conspiracy everything this people calls a conspiracy; do not fear what they fear, and do not dread it. The LORD Almighty is the one you are to regard as holy, he is the one you are to fear, he is the one you are to dread. ________________________________________________________________________________ Now here is your post agreeing with my point...so how can this all be an attack when you are in agreement: Your words: "Watchful, if we keep our eyes on the Lord completely, he will reveal both what is of him, and the hidden works of darkness, it is just the way it goes." Thought we were on the same page, at least in principle. Anyhow I was finished with this thread...it was a mistake to come back to answer your questions and clarify. I'm done now. |
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