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Post by frienduff on Jun 5, 2020 12:23:40 GMT -5
FORWARD MARCH . LET US HAVE ABSOLUTELY ZERO FEAR OF WHAT MAN CAN DO . SO LET ME REMIND US ALL of WHY WE HAVE NO FEAR . IMMANUEL .
Just that one word alone is why i have zero fear . GOD WITH US . THE KING RULES AND REIGNS FROM HEAVEN . TO HE BE THE GLORY , IF I LIVE LET IT BE UNTO HE ALONE and if I DIE I AM PRESENT WITH THE KING . AMEN . TO THE TRENCHES fearing nothing man can do to us , OUR KING IS WITH US my friends and HEDOES LEAD us . To live is Christ to die is gain . FORWARD , MARCH always remembering to forgive all who do hate , all who do persecute , all who would even kill us . but never , ever, ever ever , conform one tittle of a dot in thier direction . BATTLE TIME . SOUND THE TRUMPETS .
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Post by John on Jun 5, 2020 12:26:24 GMT -5
Not believing in self defense as an individual can seem to work, but imagine if everyone followed your lead? We would not have any police force or military. Who would be there to protect the innocent from being attacked? If we are willing to call on the police to rescue us, how can we then say that we would not protect ourselves or our families? The same thing goes with the military. We are happy knowing they are there to protect us. How can we then say self defense is wrong? It works when the number of pacifists is low, but not if everyone was one. Man . Obama nearly said that word for word john . NOT that you agree with him . but i watched him say this too . but he was mocking the heck out of the sermon on the mount when he did it . The point being made is this , my best guess is , if i remain , LORD willing on this earth , for a time , OL FRIENDUFF gonna be seen as one dangerous vile and wicked man . DO not be suprised nor marvel if things like what i say next happen . yall could be seeing on the news , In time ahead, today a man was captured . he had guns in his house . he was writing of threats of harming folks . And its me . AND THEY ARE LYING TO THE WORLD and all . THEY GONNA LIE about us friend . and much more they will have the world so convinced by then , that we are all haters . THINK it cant happen . ITS NOT IF , BUT WHEN . They are gonna come for the loudest ones first . WHEN ONCE the TIME is allowed . My point was to make us THINK . And not to marvel WHEN those things begin to happen . Churches will spy on us , they will mark us and watch us and anyone not fitting in , Will be observed and turned over to authorites . ITS NOT IF MY FRIENDS , ONLY WHEN . ITS COMING and ITS COMING WORLDWIDE . and they gonna have a mark man . and by that mark they will determine friend from foe . WHOEVER has it not or speaks against it , IS THE FOE OF THE WORLD my friends . ITS COMING . mars hill is just a pimple of what is to come . just a pimple . YOU watch , SEE , watch how they start hinting at what is potnetially dangerous , or not good for society AND when i say watch , i mean our own churches GONNA DOTHIS . AS WILL THE WORLD . ITS COMING . but as i said , i have no idea if i will even be here still . no man knows his last day . but whether i am gone or still here at HIS COMING , THE WORDS CLING TO THE KING will utter out of this mouth . OH let it be SO LORD . I do not believe that Jesus was telling us self defense is wrong. I think he is telling us as individuals not to seek vengeance on those who wrong us. In Luke 22:36, Jesus says,
But now, he that hath a purse, let him take it, and likewise his scrip: and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one.
We use a sword to protect ourselves, and even kill if necessary. I can tell you this. If I was in your company, and someone was trying to do you harm, and I had a weapon, I would use deadly force to protect you even if you would not protect yourself, and would feel so sorrow or remorse for killing in self defense.
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Post by frienduff on Jun 5, 2020 12:30:15 GMT -5
Man . Obama nearly said that word for word john . NOT that you agree with him . but i watched him say this too . but he was mocking the heck out of the sermon on the mount when he did it . The point being made is this , my best guess is , if i remain , LORD willing on this earth , for a time , OL FRIENDUFF gonna be seen as one dangerous vile and wicked man . DO not be suprised nor marvel if things like what i say next happen . yall could be seeing on the news , In time ahead, today a man was captured . he had guns in his house . he was writing of threats of harming folks . And its me . AND THEY ARE LYING TO THE WORLD and all . THEY GONNA LIE about us friend . and much more they will have the world so convinced by then , that we are all haters . THINK it cant happen . ITS NOT IF , BUT WHEN . They are gonna come for the loudest ones first . WHEN ONCE the TIME is allowed . My point was to make us THINK . And not to marvel WHEN those things begin to happen . Churches will spy on us , they will mark us and watch us and anyone not fitting in , Will be observed and turned over to authorites . ITS NOT IF MY FRIENDS , ONLY WHEN . ITS COMING and ITS COMING WORLDWIDE . and they gonna have a mark man . and by that mark they will determine friend from foe . WHOEVER has it not or speaks against it , IS THE FOE OF THE WORLD my friends . ITS COMING . mars hill is just a pimple of what is to come . just a pimple . YOU watch , SEE , watch how they start hinting at what is potnetially dangerous , or not good for society AND when i say watch , i mean our own churches GONNA DOTHIS . AS WILL THE WORLD . ITS COMING . but as i said , i have no idea if i will even be here still . no man knows his last day . but whether i am gone or still here at HIS COMING , THE WORDS CLING TO THE KING will utter out of this mouth . OH let it be SO LORD . I do not believe that Jesus was telling us self defense is wrong. I think he is telling us as individuals not to seek vengeance on those who wrong us. In Luke 22:36, Jesus says,
But now, he that hath a purse, let him take it, and likewise his scrip: and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one.
We use a sword to protect ourselves, and even kill if necessary. I can tell you this. If I was in your company, and someone was trying to do you harm, and I had a weapon, I would use deadly force to protect you even if you would not protect yourself, and would feel so sorrow or remorse for killing in self defense.
For what is written of me must be accomplished . And he was numered with the transgressors . As says the entire verse . and it was , and when peter cut the ear off , JESUS said SHEATH THAT SWORD , HE WHO LIVES BY IT , WILLL DIE BY IT . There was a reason JESUS said as HE DID . and it was not to allow us to harm our enemies in self defense . Rather what had to be accomplished had to be accompllished . Anyway , lets focus on THE POINT i was making . that even a man such as myself , will be seen as DANGEROUS .
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Post by frienduff on Jun 5, 2020 12:34:20 GMT -5
BATTLE TIME . Sound the trumpet . The trogan horse of peace is on the rise . A peace offering unto all religoins and even christendom has come . And it has been allowed into many churches even . but at night as men slept , the doors were opened and the DECEPTOIN BEGAN , for from within came men who under the pretense of peace came to DECIEVE from within , KILLING the mind and heart by the sword of false peace and safety and unity for all .
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Post by John on Jun 5, 2020 12:52:26 GMT -5
I do not believe that Jesus was telling us self defense is wrong. I think he is telling us as individuals not to seek vengeance on those who wrong us. In Luke 22:36, Jesus says,
But now, he that hath a purse, let him take it, and likewise his scrip: and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one.
We use a sword to protect ourselves, and even kill if necessary. I can tell you this. If I was in your company, and someone was trying to do you harm, and I had a weapon, I would use deadly force to protect you even if you would not protect yourself, and would feel so sorrow or remorse for killing in self defense.
For what is written of me must be accomplished . And he was numered with the transgressors . As says the entire verse . and it was , and when peter cut the ear off , JESUS said SHEATH THAT SWORD , HE WHO LIVES BY IT , WILLL DIE BY IT . There was a reason JESUS said as HE DID . and it was not to allow us to harm our enemies in self defense . Rather what had to be accomplished had to be accompllished . Anyway , lets focus on THE POINT i was making . that even a man such as myself , will be seen as DANGEROUS . Jesus clearly was telling us to buy a sword for self-defense, but in that instance where Peter cut off the man's ear, Jesus did not want Peter to defend him. He came to earth to die. Peter also stood no chance of surviving against the Roman officials, so Jesus did not want him to use the sword at that time.
But yes, I do understand your main point. Even a pacifist will be seen as dangerous. I agree with that.
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Post by frienduff on Jun 5, 2020 16:21:50 GMT -5
Man . Obama nearly said that word for word john . NOT that you agree with him . but i watched him say this too . but he was mocking the heck out of the sermon on the mount when he did it . The point being made is this , my best guess is , if i remain , LORD willing on this earth , for a time , OL FRIENDUFF gonna be seen as one dangerous vile and wicked man . DO not be suprised nor marvel if things like what i say next happen . yall could be seeing on the news , In time ahead, today a man was captured . he had guns in his house . he was writing of threats of harming folks . And its me . AND THEY ARE LYING TO THE WORLD and all . THEY GONNA LIE about us friend . and much more they will have the world so convinced by then , that we are all haters . THINK it cant happen . ITS NOT IF , BUT WHEN . They are gonna come for the loudest ones first . WHEN ONCE the TIME is allowed . My point was to make us THINK . And not to marvel WHEN those things begin to happen . Churches will spy on us , they will mark us and watch us and anyone not fitting in , Will be observed and turned over to authorites . ITS NOT IF MY FRIENDS , ONLY WHEN . ITS COMING and ITS COMING WORLDWIDE . and they gonna have a mark man . and by that mark they will determine friend from foe . WHOEVER has it not or speaks against it , IS THE FOE OF THE WORLD my friends . ITS COMING . mars hill is just a pimple of what is to come . just a pimple . YOU watch , SEE , watch how they start hinting at what is potnetially dangerous , or not good for society AND when i say watch , i mean our own churches GONNA DOTHIS . AS WILL THE WORLD . ITS COMING . but as i said , i have no idea if i will even be here still . no man knows his last day . but whether i am gone or still here at HIS COMING , THE WORDS CLING TO THE KING will utter out of this mouth . OH let it be SO LORD . I do not believe that Jesus was telling us self defense is wrong. I think he is telling us as individuals not to seek vengeance on those who wrong us. In Luke 22:36, Jesus says,
But now, he that hath a purse, let him take it, and likewise his scrip: and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one.
We use a sword to protect ourselves, and even kill if necessary. I can tell you this. If I was in your company, and someone was trying to do you harm, and I had a weapon, I would use deadly force to protect you even if you would not protect yourself, and would feel so sorrow or remorse for killing in self defense.
okay . but be encouraged by what i say next . If you were in my company and had a sword and went to protect me from my killers . I would simply say as did JESUS to peter , put that sword away john he who lives by the sword shall perish by the sword . If my time is up , May the LORD forgive them for killing me , but if my time is not up , MARK MY WORDS , GOD WONT LET THEM KILL ME PERIOD . SOmething i learned and am still learning . GOD , it is HE who is in control of all life . And IF HE has deemed a mans time is up , Cant nothing stop that , and if HE DEEMS that mans time is not up , Why he might even blind them and i could run away . But i would rebuke you and say , DO NOT touch them . You know i love ya john . Can you at least see the beauty in this . My mind has total peace in it .
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Post by John on Jun 5, 2020 17:32:53 GMT -5
I do not believe that Jesus was telling us self defense is wrong. I think he is telling us as individuals not to seek vengeance on those who wrong us. In Luke 22:36, Jesus says,
But now, he that hath a purse, let him take it, and likewise his scrip: and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one.
We use a sword to protect ourselves, and even kill if necessary. I can tell you this. If I was in your company, and someone was trying to do you harm, and I had a weapon, I would use deadly force to protect you even if you would not protect yourself, and would feel so sorrow or remorse for killing in self defense.
okay . but be encouraged by what i say next . If you were in my company and had a sword and went to protect me from my killers . I would simply say as did JESUS to peter , put that sword away john he who lives by the sword shall perish by the sword . If my time is up , May the LORD forgive them for killing me , but if my time is not up , MARK MY WORDS , GOD WONT LET THEM KILL ME PERIOD . SOmething i learned and am still learning . GOD , it is HE who is in control of all life . And IF HE has deemed a mans time is up , Cant nothing stop that , and if HE DEEMS that mans time is not up , Why he might even blind them and i could run away . But i would rebuke you and say , DO NOT touch them . You know i love ya john . Can you at least see the beauty in this . My mind has total peace in it . That is fine Frienduff. I can respect your point of view in this matter. My normal instinct would be to do whatever was necessary to protect the innocent.
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