Cletus
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Post by Cletus on Jun 6, 2020 17:32:23 GMT -5
Cletus>yep. its frank>>Why the Hate? show me where i said something hateful
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Post by John on Jun 6, 2020 17:33:38 GMT -5
Cletus>yep. its frank>>Why the Hate? Frank, lets look at headhurt as a new beginning. You have been handling yourself much better than you did in the past. Are you willing to discuss the topic of unconditional eternal security using scripture only, and under the conditions I laid out. I am holding myself to the same standard.
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headhurt
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Post by headhurt on Jun 6, 2020 17:34:46 GMT -5
Cletus has the Ghost told you to Hate Me? or is it just YOU!
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Post by headhurt on Jun 6, 2020 17:36:20 GMT -5
Cletus where does this hate come from?>the Ghost?No it from You! lets be frank!
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Post by John on Jun 6, 2020 17:37:06 GMT -5
Cletus has the Ghost told you to Hate Me? or is it just YOU! headhurt, nobody hates you. We are both happy to let you remain under this username if you can abide by our rules. What about my challenge to you? Are you up for it?
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headhurt
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Post by headhurt on Jun 6, 2020 17:40:03 GMT -5
Im into threading and posting!>its very intro that 1% between you and me will always come up because a lie is a lie!
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Post by John on Jun 6, 2020 17:42:35 GMT -5
headhurt , this may come as a surprise to you, but I did not block your old account because I hate you, fear you, or was trying to punish you. It was because you refused to follow our rules in the TOS and SOF. If you are able to follow the rules now, you are welcome to remain. I have no vendetta against you.
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Post by John on Jun 6, 2020 17:44:44 GMT -5
Im into threading and posting!>its very intro that 1% between you and me will always come up because a lie is a lie! If we are not in the truth, you should be able to show us that using scripture alone. I am giving you a great opportunity to teach us the truth. I just expect you to do it using the Bible, not "the essence of God," not catch phrases, accusations, human logic, or things like that. Lets have a real Bible-based discussion. I will allow this in a single thread, so long as these guidelines are followed. What do you have to lose?
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Cletus
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Post by Cletus on Jun 6, 2020 18:03:06 GMT -5
headhurt i do not hate you. i am not being malicious towards you. but you need to understand i am a moderator, i have a job to do. apart of that job is to protect our members and ensure an environment on this forum that is peaceful and orderly. there was in days gone by a member that went by the name letmebeFrank. lets just say Franks behavior did not always cultivate the kind of environment at narrow way that is desirable for a church to fellowship. now, i am not going to mention certain behaviors. but i will not tolerate certain behaviors either. it is my belief that as much effort you have put into promoting osas that you could back that teaching up with scripture. i also believe a conversation between a osas-er and a non-osas-er could transpire and be peaceful. even more, i believe that thru scripture truth can be discovered, just as those more noble than those in Thessolinica did... and as iron sharpens iron. no on is going to just believe you because you said it. i just have one question, why do you believe a teaching you are unable to prove that the bible actually says,... does the bible say it? show me. if you cant its probably not in the bible.
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headhurt
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Post by headhurt on Jun 6, 2020 18:09:19 GMT -5
Why are you people afraid of me for my 1% that I do not agree with You?
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headhurt
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Post by headhurt on Jun 6, 2020 18:13:18 GMT -5
Im sure if anyone else came on your forum that had very wild thoughts you seem to say well lets not push it, be with me you have a melt down for that 1% why? because maybe there is some truth to it?
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Post by John on Jun 6, 2020 18:16:46 GMT -5
Why are you people afraid of me for my 1% that I do not agree with You? You are still here, aren't you? Who is afraid of you?
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Post by John on Jun 6, 2020 18:19:41 GMT -5
Im sure if anyone else came on your forum that had very wild thoughts you seem to say well lets not push it, be with me you have a melt down for that 1% why? because maybe there is some truth to it? We have our core beliefs in our Statement of Faith. We will allow discussion on things we do not agree with, if they do not go against our Statement of Faith. We have come out and rejected unconditional eternal security. It is a core belief of this forum that we reject it. That is the difference.
Even so, I am giving you a chance to defend the subject in a single thread, so long as you can stick with scripture. If it is truth, you should be able to do that. If you think it is truth, but cannot defend it using scripture, how do you know it is true? Why not have a Bible-based discussion on unconditional security?
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Post by Cletus on Jun 6, 2020 18:20:03 GMT -5
Why are you people afraid of me for my 1% that I do not agree with You? no one is afraid of you.
its not 1% as that 1% spills over into every aspect of a foundation of salvation and understanding of the gospel and even who Jesus Christ is.
osas is a false teaching. grace is not a license to remain in sin.
2Pe 2:20 For if after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, they are again entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning.
what you believe contradicts scripture.
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Post by headhurt on Jun 6, 2020 18:23:12 GMT -5
i just have one question, why do you believe a teaching you are unable to prove that the bible actually says,... does the bible say it? Hi C>like that , you seem very up tight, So tell me C Why did Jesus Talk SO MUCH IN PARABLES ?? can you tell me Why?? Your thoughts on this one first.
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