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Post by frienduff on Jul 8, 2020 12:39:00 GMT -5
game time is over .
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Post by frienduff on Jul 8, 2020 12:42:45 GMT -5
that includes easter eggs and satan clause . or santa clause . a lie is a lie and neither exist . oh i know i seem as a hater for sure . but , i will pray destruction of the flesh , but my hope will be repentance and that the soul will be saved in the day of the LORD . Enough is enough . TIMOTHY DIED . HE DIED to expose evil and we celebrate and christanize it . NOT ON MY WATCH . Try not to see me as being hateful , SEE THE LOVE that i desire not a soul to perish instead .
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Post by frienduff on Jul 8, 2020 12:47:53 GMT -5
narrow way began that we might grow in the LORD . and anything pagan will cease that growth and lead to death . We have a place where we can truly grow . Who else knows this . We can be the peoples our LORD desires us to be . I got all hope and joy just seeing that . Finally a place is found where lambs can grow and by the Spirit exhort on another daily . But all pagan must be gone , anything that contradicts not only a paragraph of what JESUS said , but even a sentence , even a word , even a consonant of what HE SAID , must go . JESUS is our everything , HE ALONE reveals the FATHER UNTO US . AND I AM JOYED UP that we can GROW up into the LORD and abound . But we must be prepared to die to any contradictory statment , doctrine or word TO THE PURE HOLY TRUTH of our LORD .
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Post by Giller on Jul 9, 2020 10:57:38 GMT -5
For right now I think I will cover things which concern graven images, and will mention other things on that other topic later (Christmas) (still carefully studying stuff on it).
Exo 20:3-6 (3) Thou shalt have no other gods before me. (4) Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth: (5) Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me; (6) And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments.
So here is one scripture to meditate on, and now here is another scripture to meditate on:
Joh 20:29 (29) Jesus saith unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed.
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Post by Giller on Jul 9, 2020 11:18:49 GMT -5
Here are other things to think about.
Dan 3:1-5 (1) Nebuchadnezzar the king made an image of gold, whose height was threescore cubits, and the breadth thereof six cubits: he set it up in the plain of Dura, in the province of Babylon. (2) Then Nebuchadnezzar the king sent to gather together the princes, the governors, and the captains, the judges, the treasurers, the counsellors, the sheriffs, and all the rulers of the provinces, to come to the dedication of the image which Nebuchadnezzar the king had set up. (3) Then the princes, the governors, and captains, the judges, the treasurers, the counsellors, the sheriffs, and all the rulers of the provinces, were gathered together unto the dedication of the image that Nebuchadnezzar the king had set up; and they stood before the image that Nebuchadnezzar had set up. (4) Then an herald cried aloud, To you it is commanded, O people, nations, and languages, (5) That at what time ye hear the sound of the cornet, flute, harp, sackbut, psaltery, dulcimer, and all kinds of musick, ye fall down and worship the golden image that Nebuchadnezzar the king hath set up:
Rev 13:15 (15) And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.
Nebuchadnezzar wanted an image, and wanted people to worship it, The Antichrist will want an image, and want people to worship it, but what about God?
Yes God got people to construct the ark of the covenant, and on that ark he got them to form these cherubims, which actually had some type of representation to it, but notice that no were in the whole entire bible did God actually get people to make an image of himself, no not one time.
Some men in authority want images of themselves, God no image.
So should we even have pictures of so called Jesus, or images of God???
And who knows how Jesus even looked like, so if you make a picture of him, is it a misrepresentation of him?
Most so called Jesus' do not even look Hebrew.
Some men in authority= images, God = no images, but just strait worship to him.
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Post by frienduff on Jul 9, 2020 13:45:22 GMT -5
Here are other things to think about. Dan 3:1-5 (1) Nebuchadnezzar the king made an image of gold, whose height was threescore cubits, and the breadth thereof six cubits: he set it up in the plain of Dura, in the province of Babylon. (2) Then Nebuchadnezzar the king sent to gather together the princes, the governors, and the captains, the judges, the treasurers, the counsellors, the sheriffs, and all the rulers of the provinces, to come to the dedication of the image which Nebuchadnezzar the king had set up. (3) Then the princes, the governors, and captains, the judges, the treasurers, the counsellors, the sheriffs, and all the rulers of the provinces, were gathered together unto the dedication of the image that Nebuchadnezzar the king had set up; and they stood before the image that Nebuchadnezzar had set up. (4) Then an herald cried aloud, To you it is commanded, O people, nations, and languages, (5) That at what time ye hear the sound of the cornet, flute, harp, sackbut, psaltery, dulcimer, and all kinds of musick, ye fall down and worship the golden image that Nebuchadnezzar the king hath set up: Rev 13:15 (15) And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed. Nebuchadnezzar wanted an image, and wanted people to worship it, The Antichrist will want an image, and want people to worship it, but what about God? Yes God got people to construct the ark of the covenant, and on that ark he got them to form these cherubims, which actually had some type of representation to it, but notice that no were in the whole entire bible did God actually get people to make an image of himself, no not one time. Some men in authority want images of themselves, God no image. So should we even have pictures of so called Jesus, or images of God??? And who knows how Jesus even looked like, so if you make a picture of him, is it a misrepresentation of him? Most so called Jesus' do not even look Hebrew. Some men in authority= images, God = no images, but just strait worship to him. And dont forget what GOD had one do . do you remember the rod that bore the golden serpent . the one what GOD had MOSES make . SO that when the people saw it they would be healed . MANY years later they made an idol of it and were bowing before it . AND GOD had a man DESTROY IT . GOD DOES NOT WANT US BOWING DOWN to anything BUT HE ALONE . I kid yall not GOD had a man DESTROY the actual ROD that moses had made , cause the people had made it into some kind of hope to bow before . ROME IS TANKED , that whore is a delusion .
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Post by Giller on Jul 10, 2020 8:48:01 GMT -5
So since God had never at any time had anyone make a direct image of him, should we have pictures of so called Jesus, or statues of God, or Jesus?
Now there are things which represent Jesus like a Lamb or lion, and there is the dove which represents the Holy Ghost, but I am not talking about those things as a form of representation, but rather a direct image, statue of Jesus and the Holy Ghost, or the Father?
Should we even have statues of a baby Jesus, in a manger scene?
Joh 20:29 (29) Jesus saith unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed.
Or should we just worship him by faith, and if we read of Jesus' birth just to remember it?
Deu 12:29-31 (29) When the LORD thy God shall cut off the nations from before thee, whither thou goest to possess them, and thou succeedest them, and dwellest in their land; (30) Take heed to thyself that thou be not snared by following them, after that they be destroyed from before thee; and that thou enquire not after their gods, saying, How did these nations serve their gods? even so will I do likewise. (31) Thou shalt not do so unto the LORD thy God: for every abomination to the LORD, which he hateth, have they done unto their gods; for even their sons and their daughters they have burnt in the fire to their gods.
We are not to serve or copy the ways of the pagans, or serve our God, in the way they served their gods.
And it is well known in history, that Nimrod's Babylon, had erected statues of Semiramus, holding a baby, which pointed to the Sun god Tammuz, yet God himself never commanded anyone under the Old covenant or New covenant, to make a statue of Mary holding a baby Jesus, which in Genesis it prophecies of the coming Messiah, coming through a woman.
Not one time did God command this, and he does not want us to serve him, by us making images, statues, or displays of Him, for he does not want us to serve him the way the heathens served their gods, and today we see this in the Catholic church, full of statues of saints (some so called), and of what they call Mary and baby Jesus, and so on.
So get away from the ways of the heathen, totally away. Do not copy Nimrod's Babylonian religion or Roman Catholicism.
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Post by Giller on Jul 10, 2020 9:19:38 GMT -5
And we have to remember that the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost is the one God.
God has a right to be worshiped for God is God.
But he does not want us to make direct statues of any of the persons of the God head, since all of them, including Jesus, comprise of being the one God.
He wants direct worship, and not heathen worship, he does not want us to look at what one calls a baby Jesus in a manger, to worship that baby, he wants direct worship and only direct worship.
No statues, no babies, no images, just direct access to God.
What he commands us to do is to worship him, to seek his face, and to directly reverence him, not through a statue, but just directly.
He had them make representation of things under the old covenant, but never a direct image, statue, in representation or not, of God directly.
We do not know what God looks like, let us not misrepresent him, and let us do what he says, and not do like the heathen do to their gods, like an image, statue, or a Semiramus like statue with a baby, or even the Roman Catholic form, God will not accept these things for he does not want to be served this way.
And never commanded us to serve him this way.
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Post by watchful on Jul 11, 2020 8:55:33 GMT -5
Amen. God is Spirit, and so the only way to worship Him is in SPIRIT and in truth. I believe we could even say that anything more than this comes from the evil one. Wanting someone discernible to the senses of the flesh is what led Israel astray...wanting a flesh and blood king like the pagans had, or tangible images of gods, rather than being led by a God they could neither see nor touch.
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Post by Giller on Jul 11, 2020 10:57:10 GMT -5
Amen. God is Spirit, and so the only way to worship Him is in SPIRIT and in truth. I believe we could even say that anything more than this comes from the evil one. Wanting someone discernible to the senses of the flesh is what led Israel astray...wanting a flesh and blood king like the pagans had, or tangible images of gods, rather than being led by a God they could neither see nor touch. You quoted a really good scripture here Watchful, which goes along with the subject. I will mention it in full, so people can see it fully: Joh 4:23-24 (23) But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him.(24) God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth. I myself do not want anything to do, with these so called Jesus pictures, images, statues etc. Sometimes I will share songs with people, and often times I will pic the version I tend to like better, but I notice that sometimes they have so called Jesus pictures in the video, I do not share it for those pictures, but even in this I want to be careful, because I do not want to give the wrong message to people, for I am not for these Jesus pictures, so I will seek to cease even sharing any music videos that put Jesus pictures in it, and will find versions that do not. I want to be the witness God wants me to be, in every area, every aspect, as much as possible, because I love God. And concerning these so called Jesus pictures, a friend of mine says that most of them look like an Italian. And this is just a thought, but will there be similarities to the way this so called Jesus is portrayed, and how the Antichrist will look? Who knows maybe yes, maybe no, but they are bombarding us with this so called image.
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Post by watchful on Jul 11, 2020 13:11:10 GMT -5
Amen. God is Spirit, and so the only way to worship Him is in SPIRIT and in truth. I believe we could even say that anything more than this comes from the evil one. Wanting someone discernible to the senses of the flesh is what led Israel astray...wanting a flesh and blood king like the pagans had, or tangible images of gods, rather than being led by a God they could neither see nor touch. You quoted a really good scripture here Watchful, which goes along with the subject. I will mention it in full, so people can see it fully: Joh 4:23-24 (23) But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him.(24) God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth. I myself do not want anything to do, with these so called Jesus pictures, images, statues etc. Sometimes I will share songs with people, and often times I will pic the version I tend to like better, but I notice that sometimes they have so called Jesus pictures in the video, I do not share it for those pictures, but even in this I want to be careful, because I do not want to give the wrong message to people, for I am not for these Jesus pictures, so I will seek to cease even sharing any music videos that put Jesus pictures in it, and will find versions that do not. I want to be the witness God wants me to be, in every area, every aspect, as much as possible, because I love God. And concerning these so called Jesus pictures, a friend of mine says that most of them look like an Italian. And this is just a thought, but will there be similarities to the way this so called Jesus is portrayed, and how the Antichrist will look? Who knows maybe yes, maybe no, but they are bombarding us with this so called image. It could be brother. One thing that comes to mind is how in Isaiah it says about Jesus that he has no form or comeliness, nothing in his appearance that we should desire him......but King Saul (type of antichrist) was chosen because he had a kingly stature and appearance. Pictures of Jesus that I have seen mostly portray him as being on the tall and handsome side, rather than ordinary. Whereas David (type of Christ and God's choice) was easily overlooked as far as outward things go. But inwardly he had a heart that was after God's own heart.
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Post by Giller on Jul 13, 2020 0:06:18 GMT -5
Apostasy
I am getting close to sharing, some things I have been studying via history and church history.
And I do not know how many people realize that in some form, after a manner, and through some differing methods, is that history is about to repeat itself, and is actually repeating itself right now.
This is what Paul said concerning the Ephesus church in his time:
Act 20:17 (17) And from Miletus he sent to Ephesus, and called the elders of the church.
Act 20:18 (18) And when they were come to him, he said unto them, Ye know, from the first day that I came into Asia, after what manner I have been with you at all seasons,
Act 20:28-30 (28) Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood. (29) For I know this, that after my departing shall grievous wolves enter in among you, not sparing the flock. (30) Also of your own selves shall men arise, speaking perverse things, to draw away disciples after them.
So Paul had called for the elders of the church of the Ephesians to meet him at Miletus, for he had something to say to them.
And Acts chapter 20 is dated to around 60 A.D.
Here is what Adam Clarke says about Paul's departing:
(Adam Clarke)
(Acts 20:29 After my departing - Referring, most likely, to his death; for few of these evils took place during his life....)
And I bear witness to this, for it seems that only few of these things happened in the Ephesus church when Paul was alive.
But in a much bigger manner after he was off the scene.
And even though Paul gave them this warning of when he would be off the scene in the book of Acts, it seems that he wrote his specific epistle to the Ephesians in A.D. 64, which shows that he spoke to them again, which was of the things which are contained in the book of Ephesians, but it is said that Paul's martyrdom happened most likely in A.D. 65, which some say A.D. 66 or A.D. 67.
Now concerning the Apostle John, he wrote the book of Revelations in A.D. 96.
And this is what it says of the Ephesus church of John's time:
Rev 2:1-5 (1) Unto the angel of the church of Ephesus write; These things saith he that holdeth the seven stars in his right hand, who walketh in the midst of the seven golden candlesticks; (2) I know thy works, and thy labour, and thy patience, and how thou canst not bear them which are evil: and thou hast tried them which say they are apostles, and are not, and hast found them liars: (3) And hast borne, and hast patience, and for my name's sake hast laboured, and hast not fainted. (4) Nevertheless I have somewhat against thee, because thou hast left thy first love. (5) Remember therefore from whence thou art fallen, and repent, and do the first works; or else I will come unto thee quickly, and will remove thy candlestick out of his place, except thou repent.
Them leaving their first love was so severe that if they did not repent, and come back and do the first works, God would remove their candlestick, which means he would remove them as being one of his churches, for the 7 candlesticks represent the seven churches.
So by the end of John's ministry, the Ephesus church was not in good shape, and even after the Apostle John came off the scene which it is said that he died around 100 A.D., it seems that the church as a whole, went into deeper apostasy, especially starting in a bigger way in the 200's, but in a tremendous way, in the 300's.
Most churches of the day, were starting to receive doctrines such as the clergy over the laity (Nicolaitans), and the merging of church and state, and other things, which eventually gave rise to the Roman Catholic church, which God calls a whore, and calls her mystery Babylon the great, the mother of harlots.
So the falling away of that day, gave rise to a pagan church, which sought to merge Christianity with paganism, and really you cannot do that, for you cannot mix God's pure ways with the ways of the pagans or heathen, because if you do, it will give rise to a false religion, or a cult.
And that is what has happened, there were many things that the so called church of the 300's (and even 200's to some degree), to were they merge pagan practices with their brand of Christianity.
And it was only few who were not caught into this, but most were at that time caught up into this, and eventually accepted the new brand of so called Christianity, which was Roman Catholicism, as Christianity.
And today, it is this whore who is causing many churches to fall away from the faith, through its ecumenical merging and so on.
In one form, it is history repeating itself, but now the Catholic church is crying, come back to mama.
For they call themselves the mother church, and she is leading this ecumenical movement.
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Post by Giller on Jul 13, 2020 0:13:44 GMT -5
The falling away is here, and history in one form or another is repeating itself, but let us not allow it to repeat itself in our lives, nor accept pagan ways.
Let us hold on to the pure word.
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Post by watchful on Jul 13, 2020 6:45:34 GMT -5
ApostasyI am getting close to sharing, some things I have been studying via history and church history. And I do not know how many people realize that in some form, after a manner, and through some differing methods, is that history is about to repeat itself, and is actually repeating itself right now. This is what Paul said concerning the Ephesus church in his time: Act 20:17 (17) And from Miletus he sent to Ephesus, and called the elders of the church. Act 20:18 (18) And when they were come to him, he said unto them, Ye know, from the first day that I came into Asia, after what manner I have been with you at all seasons, Act 20:28-30 (28) Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood. (29) For I know this, that after my departing shall grievous wolves enter in among you, not sparing the flock. (30) Also of your own selves shall men arise, speaking perverse things, to draw away disciples after them. So Paul had called for the elders of the church of the Ephesians to meet him at Miletus, for he had something to say to them. And Acts chapter 20 is dated to around 60 A.D.Here is what Adam Clarke says about Paul's departing: (Adam Clarke)(Acts 20:29 After my departing - Referring, most likely, to his death; for few of these evils took place during his life....)
And I bear witness to this, for it seems that only few of these things happened in the Ephesus church when Paul was alive. But in a much bigger manner after he was off the scene. And even though Paul gave them this warning of when he would be off the scene in the book of Acts, it seems that he wrote his specific epistle to the Ephesians in A.D. 64, which shows that he spoke to them again, which was of the things which are contained in the book of Ephesians, but it is said that Paul's martyrdom happened most likely in A.D. 65, which some say A.D. 66 or A.D. 67. Now concerning the Apostle John, he wrote the book of Revelations in A.D. 96. And this is what it says of the Ephesus church of John's time: Rev 2:1-5 (1) Unto the angel of the church of Ephesus write; These things saith he that holdeth the seven stars in his right hand, who walketh in the midst of the seven golden candlesticks; (2) I know thy works, and thy labour, and thy patience, and how thou canst not bear them which are evil: and thou hast tried them which say they are apostles, and are not, and hast found them liars: (3) And hast borne, and hast patience, and for my name's sake hast laboured, and hast not fainted. (4) Nevertheless I have somewhat against thee, because thou hast left thy first love. (5) Remember therefore from whence thou art fallen, and repent, and do the first works; or else I will come unto thee quickly, and will remove thy candlestick out of his place, except thou repent. Them leaving their first love was so severe that if they did not repent, and come back and do the first works, God would remove their candlestick, which means he would remove them as being one of his churches, for the 7 candlesticks represent the seven churches. So by the end of John's ministry, the Ephesus church was not in good shape, and even after the Apostle John came off the scene which it is said that he died around 100 A.D., it seems that the church as a whole, went into deeper apostasy, especially starting in a bigger way in the 200's, but in a tremendous way, in the 300's. Most churches of the day, were starting to receive doctrines such as the clergy over the laity (Nicolaitans), and the merging of church and state, and other things, which eventually gave rise to the Roman Catholic church, which God calls a whore, and calls her mystery Babylon the great, the mother of harlots. So the falling away of that day, gave rise to a pagan church, which sought to merge Christianity with paganism, and really you cannot do that, for you cannot mix God's pure ways with the ways of the pagans or heathen, because if you do, it will give rise to a false religion, or a cult. And that is what has happened, there were many things that the so called church of the 300's (and even 200's to some degree), to were they merge pagan practices with their brand of Christianity. And it was only few who were not caught into this, but most were at that time caught up into this, and eventually accepted the new brand of so called Christianity, which was Roman Catholicism, as Christianity. And today, it is this whore who is causing many churches to fall away from the faith, through its ecumenical merging and so on. In one form, it is history repeating itself, but now the Catholic church is crying, come back to mama. For they call themselves the mother church, and she is leading this ecumenical movement. Amen! Clergy-laity schism leads to so many evils, no wonder God hates it. It's the flesh to blame for that, uncrucified flesh nature. It leads to a worldly way of functioning in the church rather than having an invisible Head who is Christ by His Spirit. It is antichrist ultimately. Not recognizing Christ come to dwell in the flesh of every believer......a priesthood of all believers, and His way is a way of simplicity. This is why the word says to not go to the strange woman's house but drink one's own well and cistern, ie, look to Jesus and drink from His well, being taught and led by Him. And that way we can discern the difference between the truth and error. We're all looking for the Bogeyman Antichrist to come someday, when we need to look closer to home first, examining our own hearts, and then we wont' fall susceptible to the Antichrist delusion, however it manifests, in big way or small, and at any time in history. He will hold the promise of fulfilling the desires of the flesh....if we have ambition for power and pre-eminence he holds out the potential and promise of that being fulfilled....if our heart desires a flesh and blood idol and saviour, and holding men's persons in admiration, he holds out the promise of fulfilling that. So important to purify our hearts and give no place to the devil, closing off all the breaches in our armour. Let the Lord shine His light in all the deep hidden corners of our heart and work to cleanse us.
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Post by Giller on Jul 15, 2020 9:08:55 GMT -5
I am getting really good information on this pagan/christmas stuff, and it will reveal a lot, and it takes discernment these days, in seeing the truth of things and the lie.
Even the bible in many ways can correct history, the bible is always accurate, the bible even mentions sun god worship (Eze 8:16 ), the title "Queen of heaven" (Jer 7:18 ), Tammuz (Eze 8:14 ), Nimrod (Gen 10:8), Babel (Gen 10:10).
You even cannot trust many so called scholars today, here is an example of what I mean:
(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nimrod)
(...However, this traditional identification of the cities built by Nimrod in Genesis is no longer accepted by modern scholars...)
Yet even Jerome, which I do not bear witness with, affirms the story of Nimrod:
(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nimrod)
(...Jerome, writing c. 390, explains in Hebrew Questions on Genesis that after Nimrod reigned in Babel, "he also reigned in Arach [Erech], that is, in Edissa; and in Achad [Accad], which is now called Nisibis; and in Chalanne [Calneh], which was later called Seleucia...)
So Jerome was able to acknowledge the story of Nimrod, but most modern day so called scholars reject it.
Which shows when reading things, we need discernment, and the bible corrects many things, and tells the truth.
You will see how well it corrects things.
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