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Post by frienduff on Jul 24, 2020 21:06:26 GMT -5
Dont that just make you want to sing sister tabitha . NOW HANDS UP . ITS TIME and HIGH TIME TO PRAISE THE HOLY LORD .
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Post by watchful on Jul 25, 2020 9:27:43 GMT -5
It just depends on what one means by ministry. Who desires a bishoprick desires a good thing. Ministry is a word that just means service...to minister is to serve and wash one another's feet. We are a priesthood of all believers so we all have a ministry to first of all minister to the Lord as well as to intercede for others. Been looking at John the Baptist lately....how it was prophesied he would exalt the valleys and make the mountains low. Under the old covenant there was a priestly class and they were thought to be more spiritual than the rest, who in times of apostasy they tended to lord over, but not so under the new covenant. Under the new covenant we are all priests.....and it was to the poor and obscure that the gospel was given, they were exalted....but not to the religious elites who didn't think they needed a physician so they were made low. Dontcha love the ways of the Lord...not like man's ways. We are given gifts and callings according to the will of the Lord so it doesn't really depend on our will, except that we may ask the Lord for gifts that we don't yet have but desire. As we grow in the Lord He will reveal one's gifts and callings and then we can take it from there.
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Post by watchful on Jul 25, 2020 9:41:00 GMT -5
Amen sister...I also believe His fullness is coming, though we will see a counterfeit manifest before the genuine happens. The day of the Lord will not come until after the falling away and son of perdition is revealed. It's important to be in the spirit and not in the flesh and emotionalism. Keep looking to the Lord and He will see us through. Bless you. Say that one again . you are correct sister . Right now we also have the largest move i have ever seen , they think they do hear from God , they all unity centered and they think unity is the great awakening . NO , its the falling away . Because Their unity is with the very ones that GOD said , TO COME YE OUT FROM AMONGST . and their gosple is now all about good works under a love so false , it wont even preach the TRUE LOVE OF GOD , that ONLY JESUS saves , but rather this lets have unity for world peace social go spell pile . Amen. Just wanted to bring a point in case it helps us all in discerning.....that the false counterfeit spirit allures through the flesh and emotions, it feels so good, just like the presence of the Lord, very hard to discern the difference so it's important to be in the spirit rather than just emotions, so as to not give the devil a foothold, so to speak. The false prophetic movement is rife with emotionalism and hype...that is not the Holy Spirit, but it is like the false prophets of Baal trying to drum up some false fire for their altar. We are to be sober and righteous, holy...that doesn't mean lacking joy and fervency at all, we enter into His gates with joy and praise, and heaven forbid that we would want to quench that.....but it is just that the genuine is not quite the same as what we see in those false movements.
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Post by frienduff on Jul 25, 2020 14:15:23 GMT -5
Say that one again . you are correct sister . Right now we also have the largest move i have ever seen , they think they do hear from God , they all unity centered and they think unity is the great awakening . NO , its the falling away . Because Their unity is with the very ones that GOD said , TO COME YE OUT FROM AMONGST . and their gosple is now all about good works under a love so false , it wont even preach the TRUE LOVE OF GOD , that ONLY JESUS saves , but rather this lets have unity for world peace social go spell pile . Amen. Just wanted to bring a point in case it helps us all in discerning.....that the false counterfeit spirit allures through the flesh and emotions, it feels so good, just like the presence of the Lord, very hard to discern the difference so it's important to be in the spirit rather than just emotions, so as to not give the devil a foothold, so to speak. The false prophetic movement is rife with emotionalism and hype...that is not the Holy Spirit, but it is like the false prophets of Baal trying to drum up some false fire for their altar. We are to be sober and righteous, holy...that doesn't mean lacking joy and fervency at all, we enter into His gates with joy and praise, and heaven forbid that we would want to quench that.....but it is just that the genuine is not quite the same as what we see in those false movements. If its so hard to discern it . HOW COME YOU CAN SEE IT . HOW COME I CAN SEE IT . it aint hard for lambs to discern , CAUSE JESUS LETS THEM KNOW . I dont see you stumbling into it . The flesh , YEAH THAT WILL ENTER RIGHT INTO IT . BUT THE SPIRIT is GREATER . LAMBS KNOW the difference between the smell of the beautfiful incense of truth and a pile of steamy dung . YOU wanna KNOW how simple it is to see it . Are they HUGE on bible doctrine . OR EMOTIONS . KADOW . THAT IS YOUR SIGN .
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Post by frienduff on Jul 25, 2020 14:19:45 GMT -5
It just depends on what one means by ministry. Who desires a bishoprick desires a good thing. Ministry is a word that just means service...to minister is to serve and wash one another's feet. We are a priesthood of all believers so we all have a ministry to first of all minister to the Lord as well as to intercede for others. Been looking at John the Baptist lately....how it was prophesied he would exalt the valleys and make the mountains low. Under the old covenant there was a priestly class and they were thought to be more spiritual than the rest, who in times of apostasy they tended to lord over, but not so under the new covenant. Under the new covenant we are all priests.....and it was to the poor and obscure that the gospel was given, they were exalted....but not to the religious elites who didn't think they needed a physician so they were made low. Dontcha love the ways of the Lord...not like man's ways. We are given gifts and callings according to the will of the Lord so it doesn't really depend on our will, except that we may ask the Lord for gifts that we don't yet have but desire. As we grow in the Lord He will reveal one's gifts and callings and then we can take it from there. Correct . ministry is ministry . I gaurantee that over ninety eight percent of folks that want to be in ministry , WANT IT FOR SELF . PEROID . Women cant be bishops and deacons . If that offends anyone , i REFUSE to apologize . AND most men , TODAY who even desire the office of a bishop , DESIRE IT FOR ALL THE WRONG REASONS . AND THAT IS a fact . TRUE BISHOPS , TRUE ELDERS , TRUE DEACONS , THEY gonna be the most hated creatures that ever walked this earth . PEROID . NO LIME light for them , AND THEY WOULD never DESIRE IT ANYWAY . THE LIME LIGHT IS DUNG to a true person of GOD . THEY WANT NOTHING TO DO WITH IT . LET JESUS GET ALL THE GLORY . Let folks hate me sister . ITS just the way its gonna be . BUT at least KNOW THIS , I WONT BE POINTING TO ME , OR ANY PERSON . JUST TO JESUS . PEROID .
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Post by Tabitha3319 on Jul 25, 2020 14:27:26 GMT -5
Who am i , who are you . We are naught . JESUS IS the ALL IN ALL . Whoever will be great among you , let him be the one who ministirs , serves to the needs of others above their own selves . MINISTRY TODAY , has no idea what it means to even be in ministry . Everyone always wanting titles and recognition . FORGET ALL THAT . LET JESUS get the recognition . ALL i am is but a wee thing , who was more evil than most , but given grace . LET GOD get the recognition . Let us just be faithful to HIM . What a commendable attitude, brother!
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Post by Cletus on Jul 26, 2020 1:55:20 GMT -5
Mar 10:43 But so shall it not be among you: but whosoever will be great among you, shall be your minister: Mar 10:44 And whosoever of you will be the chiefest, shall be servant of all. Mar 10:45 For even the Son of man came not to be ministered unto, but to minister, and to give his life a ransom for many.
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Post by watchful on Jul 26, 2020 10:03:55 GMT -5
Amen. Just wanted to bring a point in case it helps us all in discerning.....that the false counterfeit spirit allures through the flesh and emotions, it feels so good, just like the presence of the Lord, very hard to discern the difference so it's important to be in the spirit rather than just emotions, so as to not give the devil a foothold, so to speak. The false prophetic movement is rife with emotionalism and hype...that is not the Holy Spirit, but it is like the false prophets of Baal trying to drum up some false fire for their altar. We are to be sober and righteous, holy...that doesn't mean lacking joy and fervency at all, we enter into His gates with joy and praise, and heaven forbid that we would want to quench that.....but it is just that the genuine is not quite the same as what we see in those false movements. If its so hard to discern it . HOW COME YOU CAN SEE IT . HOW COME I CAN SEE IT . it aint hard for lambs to discern , CAUSE JESUS LETS THEM KNOW . I dont see you stumbling into it . The flesh , YEAH THAT WILL ENTER RIGHT INTO IT . BUT THE SPIRIT is GREATER . LAMBS KNOW the difference between the smell of the beautfiful incense of truth and a pile of steamy dung . YOU wanna KNOW how simple it is to see it . Are they HUGE on bible doctrine . OR EMOTIONS . KADOW . THAT IS YOUR SIGN . Test the doctrine, but also test the spirits. If it were possible even the very elect would be deceived...no small potatoes going on. And those who are young in the faith or came up through the churches it is harder for them to see the forest for the trees. Discernment is also something that we grow in, and some have more or less discernment. I'm not sure it's quite a cut and dried thing....there is a battle for souls.
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Post by frienduff on Jul 26, 2020 10:13:53 GMT -5
If its so hard to discern it . HOW COME YOU CAN SEE IT . HOW COME I CAN SEE IT . it aint hard for lambs to discern , CAUSE JESUS LETS THEM KNOW . I dont see you stumbling into it . The flesh , YEAH THAT WILL ENTER RIGHT INTO IT . BUT THE SPIRIT is GREATER . LAMBS KNOW the difference between the smell of the beautfiful incense of truth and a pile of steamy dung . YOU wanna KNOW how simple it is to see it . Are they HUGE on bible doctrine . OR EMOTIONS . KADOW . THAT IS YOUR SIGN . Test the doctrine, but also test the spirits. If it were possible even the very elect would be deceived...no small potatoes going on. And those who are young in the faith or came up through the churches it is harder for them to see the forest for the trees. Discernment is also something that we grow in, and some have more or less discernment. I'm not sure it's quite a cut and dried thing....there is a battle for souls. Yes indeed many decievers do abound . And they have come in to decieve . So they come in under the cloak of whom they come to decieve . THIS ONE THING is what its all about . Get ready sister . Cause its about one thing , this serpent truly is . Its men have one goal . ONE . have you guess what the goal is . UNITY . and they have entered into all religoins now , into politics , it dont matter . You name the group , THEY DONE CLAIMED IT . Within our religoin , they come to a baptist as a baptist , to a liberal as a liberal church , you name it they claim it and they KNOW how to decieve . MY goodness they can even quoate scrips . BUT the key is , and this is THE KEY . What are they really big on , IS IT ALL , DOES IT INCLUDE ALL OF JESUS sayings , or is it just some selected ones which they put the emphasis on and do so in order to swing the direction of those they rule over . Exactly . I watched that charlaton Todd white spin like he is dj disco king verses and whatever . NOTICE its about UNITY with this man . JUST as it is with them all now . ITS how they work that one and evil work they do . They use the LOVE word , and just as deceptive is how they have entered into MESSIANCI JEWISH CAMPS . OH YES . Just cause one is a jew and says they believe in JESUS , DONT MEAN they GODS ANNOINTED and APPOINTED , JEWS can decieve as good as the gentile leaders DECIEVE . WE IN TROUBLE SISTER . cause between this lets be a jew and this unity move , ITS LEADING ALL RIGHT TO THE BEAST . And i cant stop it . SEE this one dark spirit has been at work a very long time . And now , near the end it has FLOODED the hearts and minds of the peoples to have their trust in THE FLESH , IN MEN . HO HOWL YE THE DAY , unto the man whose trust is in men , IS ALL i can say . DECEPTOINS . BIG TIME . ALL AROUND and ALL WITHIN .
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Post by John on Jul 26, 2020 16:50:59 GMT -5
Amen sister...I also believe His fullness is coming, though we will see a counterfeit manifest before the genuine happens. The day of the Lord will not come until after the falling away and son of perdition is revealed. It's important to be in the spirit and not in the flesh and emotionalism. Keep looking to the Lord and He will see us through. Bless you. Say that one again . you are correct sister . Right now we also have the largest move i have ever seen , they think they do hear from God , they all unity centered and they think unity is the great awakening . NO , its the falling away . Because Their unity is with the very ones that GOD said , TO COME YE OUT FROM AMONGST . and their gosple is now all about good works under a love so false , it wont even preach the TRUE LOVE OF GOD , that ONLY JESUS saves , but rather this lets have unity for world peace social go spell pile . I have never seen so many people claiming to be prophets of the Lord as I am seeing today, and they are all speaking different things. Some are predicting horrible things and others good things, but most are being proven to be in error when things they claim will come to pass do not. A prophet from God will be right in what they speak, all the time. We need to be careful about claiming God said this or God said that unless we know it is true.
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Post by John on Jul 26, 2020 18:07:10 GMT -5
It just depends on what one means by ministry. Who desires a bishoprick desires a good thing. Ministry is a word that just means service...to minister is to serve and wash one another's feet. We are a priesthood of all believers so we all have a ministry to first of all minister to the Lord as well as to intercede for others. Been looking at John the Baptist lately....how it was prophesied he would exalt the valleys and make the mountains low. Under the old covenant there was a priestly class and they were thought to be more spiritual than the rest, who in times of apostasy they tended to lord over, but not so under the new covenant. Under the new covenant we are all priests.....and it was to the poor and obscure that the gospel was given, they were exalted....but not to the religious elites who didn't think they needed a physician so they were made low. Dontcha love the ways of the Lord...not like man's ways. We are given gifts and callings according to the will of the Lord so it doesn't really depend on our will, except that we may ask the Lord for gifts that we don't yet have but desire. As we grow in the Lord He will reveal one's gifts and callings and then we can take it from there. Correct . ministry is ministry . I gaurantee that over ninety eight percent of folks that want to be in ministry , WANT IT FOR SELF . PEROID . Women cant be bishops and deacons . If that offends anyone , i REFUSE to apologize . AND most men , TODAY who even desire the office of a bishop , DESIRE IT FOR ALL THE WRONG REASONS . AND THAT IS a fact . TRUE BISHOPS , TRUE ELDERS , TRUE DEACONS , THEY gonna be the most hated creatures that ever walked this earth . PEROID . NO LIME light for them , AND THEY WOULD never DESIRE IT ANYWAY . THE LIME LIGHT IS DUNG to a true person of GOD . THEY WANT NOTHING TO DO WITH IT . LET JESUS GET ALL THE GLORY . Let folks hate me sister . ITS just the way its gonna be . BUT at least KNOW THIS , I WONT BE POINTING TO ME , OR ANY PERSON . JUST TO JESUS . PEROID . If those seeking the office of Deacon were actually doing the job of a Deacon as described in the Bible, there would be less wanting it. Deacons were to wait on tables, be servants. They were to make sure the widows were taken care of. It was not like Deacons today, where they are a board of people running a church.
Bishop is a different matter. They are the ones that oversee the carnal things in the church, including how the money is spent. Many desire that office because of the power, and some are like Judas Iscariot, who had the money bag, but was a thief. Many do want positions for wrong reasons, like many get into the ministry to get wealthy. Look at some of the ways preachers on tv live. I do not sit here in envy of them, or upset because they live in luxury. That is between them and God, but it is the fact that most sell out the truth to get where they are. If they preached the Bible as written, they would not have those big followings, so they teach false things for gain.
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Post by Tabitha3319 on Jul 26, 2020 19:20:40 GMT -5
Say that one again . you are correct sister . Right now we also have the largest move i have ever seen , they think they do hear from God , they all unity centered and they think unity is the great awakening . NO , its the falling away . Because Their unity is with the very ones that GOD said , TO COME YE OUT FROM AMONGST . and their gosple is now all about good works under a love so false , it wont even preach the TRUE LOVE OF GOD , that ONLY JESUS saves , but rather this lets have unity for world peace social go spell pile . Amen. Just wanted to bring a point in case it helps us all in discerning.....that the false counterfeit spirit allures through the flesh and emotions, it feels so good, just like the presence of the Lord, very hard to discern the difference so it's important to be in the spirit rather than just emotions, so as to not give the devil a foothold, so to speak. The false prophetic movement is rife with emotionalism and hype...that is not the Holy Spirit, but it is like the false prophets of Baal trying to drum up some false fire for their altar. We are to be sober and righteous, holy...that doesn't mean lacking joy and fervency at all, we enter into His gates with joy and praise, and heaven forbid that we would want to quench that.....but it is just that the genuine is not quite the same as what we see in those false movements. I suppose I am simply excited at what Gpd has already done/is doing in my life and I'm anxious to serve the Kingdom and have my gifts confirmed by other believers. I am sure I am being called to evangelize in a greater way. It is something I do when I'm fired up for the Lord--- pray for the saints and reach out to the lost in faith that Jesus will reveal Himself to that person.
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