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Post by frienduff on Sept 1, 2020 13:10:38 GMT -5
I never mentioned lying being ok - where did that come from? I never thought that. I am sorry if you thought I did. Juan butero . for that is the italian name . She didnt think you did . John i have but one question for you . Do you love the sheep ............ IF so , false ones gotta be exposed for their sake . OH i know in this day and age that seemth as hate to many . But GOD did not THINK SO . HE WARNED a church about letting false ones seduce and had that against them . YOU ALLOW . you simply ALLOW . Todd is dangerous as many are . Let us have no fear in naming names . BUT let us also OFFER THE SOLUTION to all the ills and deceptoins . THAT IS JESUS and that BIBLE feeds us daily .
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Post by frienduff on Sept 1, 2020 13:13:07 GMT -5
IF we did a survey on who has perhaps the most hate or confusion in them . i would be voted number one on this site . AND YET , it was only the LOVE of GOD , for them that had me even warn . I do not think for one second anyone here thinks i am false . But they do think i am off on my approach and perhaps some doctrine . WELL , if so , i invite us to SHUT the clowns of the internet OFF . PICKUP only bibles . READ ONLY BIBLES . and in a few months lets talk . CAUSE I BET WE SEE EYE TO EYE IF THAT SIMPLE THING HAPPENS .
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Post by frienduff on Sept 1, 2020 13:14:09 GMT -5
Let the people point me to their teachers , I WILL POINT TO MINE . PS . JESUS in that bible .
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Post by frienduff on Sept 1, 2020 13:18:41 GMT -5
can we put down our internet ministirs . that is the question . can we not start over in bibles only . that is the question . IF anyone thinks me off on this , remember one thing . WHO ON EARTH AM I POINTING TOO . THE BIBLE . Try and remember that . See I KNOW and that by grace , where the TRUTH can be found . BIBLE . So i want to start a song today . ITS called love the truth in that bible . And its words are as is its title . LOVE THE WORDS IN THAT BIBLE . put the clowns down , and let us pick the BIBLE and JUST The bible UP . DO that for a time , and watch what happens .
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Post by gideons300 on Sept 1, 2020 14:15:51 GMT -5
One other thing. I do not recognize legalism as being a problem. The word is not even mentioned in scripture. It is a manufactured sin that people use to accuse others of doing if they preach against anything they happen to be doing. When I use the term 'legalistic', I am in no way referring to keeping the law. I am referring to relying on self-effort, and the power of our will-power to obey God. I brought it up in my response. Let me ask again a different way in order to clarify. Say a man is hounded by a secret sin. He tries his best to leave the sin behind but it has him by the neck. It could be an addiction of some sort. What counsel do you give this man as to how to walk as an overcomer? This is the very case of men living in Romans 7. The things they sincerely want to do, they fail at doing. The things they want to avoid doing, they succumb to them instead. What advice do you give this man? I will respond once I understand exactly where you stand on this issue. I do not want to make any false assumptions. Thanks in advance, John. blessings, Gideon
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Post by John on Sept 1, 2020 14:28:53 GMT -5
One other thing. I do not recognize legalism as being a problem. The word is not even mentioned in scripture. It is a manufactured sin that people use to accuse others of doing if they preach against anything they happen to be doing. When I use the term 'legalistic', I am in no way referring to keeping the law. I am referring to relying on self-effort, and the power of our will-power to obey God. I brought it up in my response. Let me ask again a different way in order to clarify. Say a man is hounded by a secret sin. He tries his best to leave the sin behind but it has him by the neck. It could be an addiction of some sort. What counsel do you give this man as to how to walk as an overcomer? This is the very case of men living in Romans 7. The things they sincerely want to do, they fail at doing. The things they want to avoid doing, they succumb to them instead. What advice do you give this man? I will respond once I understand exactly where you stand on this issue. I do not want to make any false assumptions. Thanks in advance, John. blessings, Gideon I can tell you based on what I have seen work for me and others. We are to resist the urge to sin with all our might, while crying out to God. When God sees we are serious, He will set us free from the bondage.
Here is a secret many do not know. Most bondages are the result of oppressing spirits. Get rid of them, and the addiction goes. If you keep resisting them, they will eventually move on to someone else.
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Post by gideons300 on Sept 1, 2020 14:59:31 GMT -5
Hmmmm. So people that struggle with sexual addictions, drug addictions, alcohol, gluttony, simply have not wanted it badly enough for God to intervene? If we cannot tell someone captive to sin how to get free other than to try harder, and if they really wanted to be free, God would free them, they are left no only still imprisoned but also now condemned because they do not want it badly enough.
Suppose a man by nature battles anger or impatience. What do you tell him? How does he go from fruitless to bearing fruit? It is one thing to try to obey, but when things are a problem, just choosing to do better is of little value.
blessings, Gids
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Post by John on Sept 1, 2020 15:05:41 GMT -5
Hmmmm. So people that struggle with sexual addictions, drug addictions, alcohol, gluttony, simply have not wanted it badly enough for God to intervene? If we cannot tell someone captive to sin how to get free other than to try harder, and if they really wanted to be free, God would free them, they are left no only still imprisoned but also now condemned because they do not want it badly enough. Suppose a man by nature battles anger or impatience. What do you tell him? How does he go from fruitless to bearing fruit? It is one thing to try to obey, but when things are a problem, just choosing to do better is of little value. blessings, Gids It does not matter what the addiction or sin is. They are to resist the temptation and cry out to God. If they are not serious, He will leave them in that state. Read Romans chapter one. Simply coming back to me and acting like I am giving wrong advise does not make me wrong. I stand by my answer.
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Post by bethany on Sept 1, 2020 15:08:10 GMT -5
when we are saved, the Holy Spirit dwells within us, and strengthens us. Often addictions are mental health issues or we need deliverance from some abuse we have suffered.
1 corinthians 10 v 13:
There hath no temptation taken you but such as is common to man: but God is faithful, who will not suffer you to be tempted above that ye are able; but will with the temptation also make a way to escape, that ye may be able to bear it.
This promises that, once we are baptized in the Holy Spirit (born again) God will give an escape from the temptation and we will have what we need to resist. Only the 'Christians' who are not Born Again do not have this, perhaps this is why they cannot resist temptation?
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Post by John on Sept 1, 2020 15:18:20 GMT -5
when we are saved, the Holy Spirit dwells within us, and strengthens us. Often addictions are mental health issues or we need deliverance from some abuse we have suffered. 1 corinthians 10 v 13: There hath no temptation taken you but such as is common to man: but God is faithful, who will not suffer you to be tempted above that ye are able; but will with the temptation also make a way to escape, that ye may be able to bear it. This promises that, once we are baptized in the Holy Spirit (born again) God will give an escape from the temptation and we will have what we need to resist. Only the 'Christians' who are not Born Again do not have this, perhaps this is why they cannot resist temptation? We are told to resist the devil. If we want free, God will set us free. He does promise to make a way of escape. If we secretly like our sins, God will let us keep them.
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Post by bethany on Sept 1, 2020 15:53:19 GMT -5
He gives us a way out of temptation, and the strength. It is up to us if we choose to ignore Him and His help.
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Post by frienduff on Sept 1, 2020 16:20:40 GMT -5
One other thing. I do not recognize legalism as being a problem. The word is not even mentioned in scripture. It is a manufactured sin that people use to accuse others of doing if they preach against anything they happen to be doing. When I use the term 'legalistic', I am in no way referring to keeping the law. I am referring to relying on self-effort, and the power of our will-power to obey God. I brought it up in my response. Let me ask again a different way in order to clarify. Say a man is hounded by a secret sin. He tries his best to leave the sin behind but it has him by the neck. It could be an addiction of some sort. What counsel do you give this man as to how to walk as an overcomer? This is the very case of men living in Romans 7. The things they sincerely want to do, they fail at doing. The things they want to avoid doing, they succumb to them instead. What advice do you give this man? I will respond once I understand exactly where you stand on this issue. I do not want to make any false assumptions. Thanks in advance, John. blessings, Gideon I tell him the same thing JESUS did . GO and sin no more . let us not pander to the flesh, let us speak by the SPIRIT . dont matter why one is in sin . What matters is they cease it . SO let our appraoch to sin whether hidden or known be the same as was JESUS . GO AND SIN NO MORE . NO MORE , lest something EVEN worse come upon you . yep . KEEP it simple . let us be dead to our own minds and learn the JESUS of the bible and the doctrine also the apostels . its real simple . AND i will die before i cease it . be encouraged . But yeah . what would i tell someone who is in sin and been struggling . GO AND SIN NO MORE .
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Post by John on Sept 1, 2020 16:39:54 GMT -5
When I use the term 'legalistic', I am in no way referring to keeping the law. I am referring to relying on self-effort, and the power of our will-power to obey God. I brought it up in my response. Let me ask again a different way in order to clarify. Say a man is hounded by a secret sin. He tries his best to leave the sin behind but it has him by the neck. It could be an addiction of some sort. What counsel do you give this man as to how to walk as an overcomer? This is the very case of men living in Romans 7. The things they sincerely want to do, they fail at doing. The things they want to avoid doing, they succumb to them instead. What advice do you give this man? I will respond once I understand exactly where you stand on this issue. I do not want to make any false assumptions. Thanks in advance, John. blessings, Gideon I tell him the same thing JESUS did . GO and sin no more . let us not pander to the flesh, let us speak by the SPIRIT . dont matter why one is in sin . What matters is they cease it . SO let our appraoch to sin whether hidden or known be the same as was JESUS . GO AND SIN NO MORE . NO MORE , lest something EVEN worse come upon you . yep . KEEP it simple . let us be dead to our own minds and learn the JESUS of the bible and the doctrine also the apostels . its real simple . AND i will die before i cease it . be encouraged . But yeah . what would i tell someone who is in sin and been struggling . GO AND SIN NO MORE . In most cases, those so-called addictions are demons oppressing you, hammering away at you to smoke, drink in excess, watch porn, or for a Bible example, throw a javelin at King David to try to kill him. We are to resist them, and cry out to God. If we want free, God will make a way of escape.
Our sister Bethany is right when she said some suffer ill effects from child abuse or something tragic that happened in their life. I have no issue with Bible-based counselors. They can be very helpful in such cases, but when it comes to sin issues, and addictions, your help is in the Lord.
Just remember that He knows your heart and inner desires, and knows if you are really wanting free, or if you kind of like your addictions. Think about that if you are unable to break free from something.
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Post by frienduff on Sept 1, 2020 18:22:25 GMT -5
Be encouraged one and all . I leave us with JESUS words . NOW GO and SIN no more lest something even worse come upon you . HE said this to a man born unable to walk . He also said this to a lady who was caught in the act of adultery . She escaped death by stoning . SO what could be worse than death . THE SECOND death . That alone is how we must view SIN and unbelief in JESUS . ITs what i rest on . cause my savoir SAID IT .
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Post by frienduff on Sept 1, 2020 18:23:52 GMT -5
I follow not osas , nor men . FOLLOW JESUS . HE alone is , and i do mean ISSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS the only HOPE . all else is as the dust in the winds .
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