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Post by watchful on Oct 26, 2020 13:43:49 GMT -5
All I will say is I don't believe that Donald Trump is just business as usual for God. The Lord is doing some very specific things at the end of this age and He does nothing without letting His servants know. His word tests hearts....to some Trump became an idol, but not to everyone.
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Post by Cletus on Oct 26, 2020 22:28:44 GMT -5
One thing we all have to remember is that the nation is still full of sin. It does not matter who the President is, if we are still killing babies, and still promoting the homosexual agenda. There is no reason why we would not continue to see chastisements on America.
I have no way of knowing who are true prophets of God. There are so many voices on places like YouTube, but I have heard more than one claim that Trump will have another term, and that Roe Verses Wade will be overturned. Once that happens, at least one is saying it will be like a cloud of darkness will be lifted off of America, and things will get better. Is that true? I hope these men and women are really hearing from God, because that would be great, not only for unborn children, but for the nation as a whole.
Everyone pretty much knows that I did vote for Trump and all the Republicans on the ballot. Abortion was the biggest issue to me, but there are many other reasons I voted for Trump. I do not believe all the negative polls, but I do believe we are being set up for a fight after the results come in. I expect there will be a fight over what votes count, and it will wind up in the Supreme Court. I do not think either side will just accept defeat and quietly say it was the will of the people. Only God knows for sure what is going to happen.
As far as the attitude goes that Trump is not holy enough, I would ask, based on what? You could make an argument about his lifestyle before he ran for President, but since being elected, I have not seen any evidence of immorality or corruption on his part. Saying things that are objectionable to some in tweets and being rude at times does not make him unfit to serve or unworthy of the vote of Christians. Look at the alternative.
there have been a lot of rallies lately of Gods own repenting. even when Jeremiah was told dont pray for them... he did. hope is not just an abstract idea. its at our fingertips now.
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Post by John on Oct 27, 2020 7:51:58 GMT -5
All I will say is I don't believe that Donald Trump is just business as usual for God. The Lord is doing some very specific things at the end of this age and He does nothing without letting His servants know. His word tests hearts....to some Trump became an idol, but not to everyone. I have never seen President Trump as the savior of America, but I see him as the man God is using at this time to accomplish his agenda. When I look at the things he has done as President, while I do not agree with everything, I approve overall.
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Post by Cletus on Oct 27, 2020 21:22:10 GMT -5
All I will say is I don't believe that Donald Trump is just business as usual for God. The Lord is doing some very specific things at the end of this age and He does nothing without letting His servants know. His word tests hearts....to some Trump became an idol, but not to everyone. I have never seen President Trump as the savior of America, but I see him as the man God is using at this time to accomplish his agenda. When I look at the things he has done as President, while I do not agree with everything, I approve overall.
there are only three things i have seen of Trump i do not like. one is how he handled the illegals. more specifically how he decided not to go after those harboring, i.e giving them jobs. if he cut that off we would have had the jail cell space and it would have cut off their main reason for coming here. the other is the peace treaty thing with Israel trying to make it a two state deal. thats dividing Gods chosen nation, and that is a big no no. once that began to be announced and gain traction this country became more and more divided fast. the other was having hindus or whatever they were celebrate in the white house. to me thats some of that lost ground you spoke of in your occupy video. maybe there was more, but nothing comes to mind right off.
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Post by PG4Him on Nov 3, 2020 12:19:12 GMT -5
Back in 2016 I was in opposition to Trump, and I made many of the same objections spoken here in this thread. I actually voted third-party that year. However on the night of the election, we were having a prayer meeting/Bible study, and the Lord clearly spoke to tell us Trump was His will. Not His will to bring judgment or punishment. But truly His will to protect us from Hillary. There was peace and happiness that night in our prayer meeting when we accepted that Trump would win. If you have a different viewpoint, that’s between you and the board, but I cannot betray what the Lord told me that night. And no I’m not interested in having an argument over dueling revelations. I must be true to the measure given to me, and not swerve either right or left due to arguments from other people. If you think I am wrong, you are welcome to pray for the Lord to give me a different revelation. So today I voted for Trump. Whether or not he wins, and whether or not my voters, I must endeavor to be obedient to the knowledge and measure I have, doing my upmost show to the Lord that I take his knowledge seriously.
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Post by John on Nov 3, 2020 18:35:32 GMT -5
Back in 2016 I was in opposition to Trump, and I made many of the same objections spoken here in this thread. I actually voted third-party that year. However on the night of the election, we were having a prayer meeting/Bible study, and the Lord clearly spoke to tell us Trump was His will. Not His will to bring judgment or punishment. But truly His will to protect us from Hillary. There was peace and happiness that night in our prayer meeting when we accepted that Trump would win. If you have a different viewpoint, that’s between you and the board, but I cannot betray what the Lord told me that night. And no I’m not interested in having an argument over dueling revelations. I must be true to the measure given to me, and not swerve either right or left due to arguments from other people. If you think I am wrong, you are welcome to pray for the Lord to give me a different revelation. So today I voted for Trump. Whether or not he wins, and whether or not my voters, I must endeavor to be obedient to the knowledge and measure I have, doing my upmost show to the Lord that I take his knowledge seriously. Back in 2016, I was a very big skeptic of Donald Trump. I was not a never-Trump guy, but I did not vote for him in the Primary, and I was openly campaigning for Ted Cruz. Once Trump got the nomination, it was easy to vote for Trump for one reason, I knew what I was getting with Clinton. I did not know what I was getting with Trump. There was hope that maybe this man was sincere and would do right things. I felt I had nothing to lose, so I voted for Trump.
I have never regretted that decision, and Trump has been better than anything I had hoped for. He has been a man of his word, fulfilling campaign promises and mostly doing what is good and right. This time around, I was not just voting against Biden-Harris and the Democrats, but I was voting for President Trump. He has earned my vote by his actions. I know that there are many prophets claiming Trump will win, but I am not going to stick my neck out and claim to know what will happen, since the Lord did not reveal that to me, but I do believe that Trump is the right man for the job at this time. I pray that the Lord will allow him to remain our President for a second term.
Thank you for sharing that Candance. I am glad you did decide to vote for Trump, and I hope and pray that somehow Trump not only wins, but wins in a landslide and pulls an upset in places like Virginia where they assume Biden will win.
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Post by watchful on Nov 4, 2020 8:13:17 GMT -5
Back in 2016 I was in opposition to Trump, and I made many of the same objections spoken here in this thread. I actually voted third-party that year. However on the night of the election, we were having a prayer meeting/Bible study, and the Lord clearly spoke to tell us Trump was His will. Not His will to bring judgment or punishment. But truly His will to protect us from Hillary. There was peace and happiness that night in our prayer meeting when we accepted that Trump would win. If you have a different viewpoint, that’s between you and the board, but I cannot betray what the Lord told me that night. And no I’m not interested in having an argument over dueling revelations. I must be true to the measure given to me, and not swerve either right or left due to arguments from other people. If you think I am wrong, you are welcome to pray for the Lord to give me a different revelation. So today I voted for Trump. Whether or not he wins, and whether or not my voters, I must endeavor to be obedient to the knowledge and measure I have, doing my upmost show to the Lord that I take his knowledge seriously. We only know in part and prophecy is only in part too. Sometimes we see believers arguing two different, but not mutually exclusive, points needlessly because they are both right. It's just that they just each have a different part or layer of the truth. Well, it sure is a tight race, oh my. May God's will be done and I pray that He show Himself mighty in the face of His enemies, and show mercy to the elect in America and the western world. Isa 45:4 For Jacob my servant's sake, and Israel mine elect, I have even called thee by thy name: I have surnamed thee, though thou hast not known me.
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Post by 2fw8212a on Nov 5, 2020 4:46:09 GMT -5
Back in 2016 I was in opposition to Trump, and I made many of the same objections spoken here in this thread. I actually voted third-party that year. However on the night of the election, we were having a prayer meeting/Bible study, and the Lord clearly spoke to tell us Trump was His will. Not His will to bring judgment or punishment. But truly His will to protect us from Hillary. There was peace and happiness that night in our prayer meeting when we accepted that Trump would win. If you have a different viewpoint, that’s between you and the board, but I cannot betray what the Lord told me that night. And no I’m not interested in having an argument over dueling revelations. I must be true to the measure given to me, and not swerve either right or left due to arguments from other people. If you think I am wrong, you are welcome to pray for the Lord to give me a different revelation. So today I voted for Trump. Whether or not he wins, and whether or not my voters, I must endeavor to be obedient to the knowledge and measure I have, doing my upmost show to the Lord that I take his knowledge seriously. We only know in part and prophecy is only in part too. Sometimes we see believers arguing two different, but not mutually exclusive, points needlessly because they are both right. ... I agree, and the lack of spiritual maturity in the body does not help.
People must understand how the body of Christ works. It is NOT a competition.
❝And the eye cannot say to the hand, “I have no need of you”;
nor again the head to the feet, “I have no need of you.”❞ - 1 Corinthians 12:21
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Post by watchful on Nov 5, 2020 8:22:08 GMT -5
We only know in part and prophecy is only in part too. Sometimes we see believers arguing two different, but not mutually exclusive, points needlessly because they are both right. ... I agree, and the lack of spiritual maturity in the body does not help.
People must understand how the body of Christ works. It is NOT a competition.
❝And the eye cannot say to the hand, “I have no need of you”;
nor again the head to the feet, “I have no need of you.”❞ - 1 Corinthians 12:21No, we are not wrestling with flesh and blood, brother, not wrestling with one another for sure. However we are to run the race so as to win it, so we are definitely in competition with something. And we can't see what battles in the spirit someone else is fighting, so people often get numbered with transgressors for that reason. I'm glad you mentioned this because by God's grace it has sparked some insights into a few things, including the life and character of Jacob, which we are to have also. The devil wants us to occupy the low place he has for us under his foot, to play his game, but the Lord God wants to forge us into rulers and reigners with Him. Even the least in the kingdom need to compete so as to win the prize, maybe even more so. And so on that note, I want to say, don't give up the battle at the gate just yet my American Christian brothers and sisters, keep fighting on! Pray that Mr. Trump not hang out a white flag on the White House door, but that he instead EXPOSES the corruption of those who oppose the will of God. No defeat, no surrender. Yes he will have to brave being numbered with the transgressors, but isn't that the very American spirit in the natural which mirrors the overcoming spirit we are to have in the spiritual. The spirit of Jacob, amen!
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Post by watchful on Nov 5, 2020 8:28:00 GMT -5
God gave me this song many years ago and I never knew why until today. I often would sing the chorus. It's a secular song, but hear it with spiritual ears, the truth that applies in the spirit.
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Post by PG4Him on Nov 5, 2020 9:00:59 GMT -5
Trump signs everywhere in my town, hardly any Biden people, big Republican area that went red in 2016. Somehow went blue this year. People complaining to the city that their votes aren’t recorded. City government sent out a tweet saying the process is slow going. Yeah right. They got the Biden votes in quick but the Trump votes take time? I went in the system to check my vote. They got my voting history, but so far nothing for 2020. It's basically like I didn't even vote.
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Post by watchful on Nov 5, 2020 9:40:17 GMT -5
Trump signs everywhere in my town, hardly any Biden people, big Republican area that went red in 2016. Somehow went blue this year. People complaining to the city that their votes aren’t recorded. City government sent out a tweet saying the process is slow going. Yeah right. They got the Biden votes in quick but the Trump votes take time? I went in the system to check my vote. They got my voting history, but so far nothing for 2020. It's basically like I didn't even vote. View AttachmentWow. Bless you sister. May the Lord Jesus Christ expose with His bright light of day what they have done under cover of darkness. Turn over the rocks Lord! This battle isn't over yet.
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Post by 2fw8212a on Nov 5, 2020 11:07:11 GMT -5
I agree, and the lack of spiritual maturity in the body does not help.
People must understand how the body of Christ works. It is NOT a competition.
❝And the eye cannot say to the hand, “I have no need of you”;
nor again the head to the feet, “I have no need of you.”❞ - 1 Corinthians 12:21 No, we are not wrestling with flesh and blood, brother, not wrestling with one another for sure. However we are to run the race so as to win it, so we are definitely in competition with something... I mean competition in the body. An example:
I will not help sister watchful in her ministry because I want mine stronger.
That is what I am talking about.
Blessings!
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Post by watchful on Nov 5, 2020 13:15:54 GMT -5
No, we are not wrestling with flesh and blood, brother, not wrestling with one another for sure. However we are to run the race so as to win it, so we are definitely in competition with something... I mean competition in the body. An example:
I will not help sister watchful in her ministry because I want mine stronger.
That is what I am talking about.
Blessings!Amen, bless you Letters, hope I didnt' jump the gun, my engine's revving. To your point, I agree, we need to have the mindset that there is only one Body, not a million little bodies of churches and denominations and ministries. I think the Lord has long-suffered the wrong mindset for a very long time.....Paul was having to battle it even in the early church....'I am of so-and-so, or I am of such and such', when in truth we all should just simply be of Christ and His Spirit.
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Post by ohhello on Nov 5, 2020 14:10:26 GMT -5
Trump signs everywhere in my town, hardly any Biden people, big Republican area that went red in 2016. Somehow went blue this year. People complaining to the city that their votes aren’t recorded. City government sent out a tweet saying the process is slow going. Yeah right. They got the Biden votes in quick but the Trump votes take time? I went in the system to check my vote. They got my voting history, but so far nothing for 2020. It's basically like I didn't even vote. View AttachmentThat’s bad. Just proves something isn’t right. The Lord sees everything. The Lord is in control. We will keep praying.
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