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Post by Giller on Nov 30, 2020 13:51:32 GMT -5
Well God is good, and there is still hope via the elections, the Trump lawyers have not given up, and some things are starting to happen via electors, voting machines and stuff, and they had a hearing today in Arizona.
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Post by frienduff on Nov 30, 2020 13:57:13 GMT -5
Giller you know i dont care what the pope and others might say about ya , You are loved my friend . Now let the LORD be praised
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Post by watchful on Dec 1, 2020 7:22:05 GMT -5
It's hard to ignore this election when so much is at stake and globalism is threatening to take over.....since we are watching for certain prophecies to be fulfilled this is potentially a pivotal moment. I consider the USA (and it's constitution) as the leading nation of the free world to be standing in the way of the globalists, and if the USA falls the rest of "Christendom" (as it used to be) will follow suit. No Christian wants that. As for me I certainly don't trust the man in question here, just watching and am very interested to see what the Father is doing. Hoping that globalists won't have their way, but at the same time I'm even a bit apprehensive whether the solution could end up being as bad or worse. The truth is we sure do not know it all . I too have no desire to see the wicked gain ground and take over everything . But as we both know , GOD is in control . Whatever he allows , HE will work for the good of those who love HIM . I dont trust in any way either side . Though i do know who is behind the great reset , OR i should say who APPEARS to be the most behind it . The liberals appear to be the ones most behind it . I get what you say dear sister about being a bit apprehensive about the solution . I mean i sure wish the false prophets would get exposed . But this is what it is . My desire being , i am so tired of watching evangelicals hang onto these false leaders . But in the end no matter what happens , GOD has the lambs . SO long as our eyes are on HIM , we wont be deceived . And regardless of how this all turns out , GOD will use whatever comes against us , and work it for our good . I have come to the conclusion , that my prayer will simply be , LET the WILL OF GOD be DONE . Because HE alone is the only one i can trust , AND HE will use whatever and work it to the good of those who loved and love Him . Not so for the unrepentant . All we can do is pray they hear and repent . I know one thing for sure and for certain . GOD ALONE has always and will always KNOW what is best for us . SO i am just gonna cling to HIM . HE is with us through it all . Amen, and we really don't know anything at all actually, only what the Father chooses to reveal and even then it's only in part. All knowledge belongs to the Lord, it's not ours, it's His, and if He chooses to share some of it with us some of the time, in His wisdom and for His purposes, then amen. We should try not to draw a line under what we think we know for that reason and also because it's only in part to begin with, and it doesn't stop with what we think we know if we are continuing to learn and grow. We don't keep our eyes on what we think we know, we keep our eyes on the Lord. The Lord is in control, He is sovereign, and we can trust Him under any circumstance, but of course only hard hearts wouldn't be sad and grieved to see truth being thrown to the ground or care that things are waxing worse in the nation knowing it will only bring more suffering and darkness for that nation. The Lord marks those who sigh and cry for all the sin and wrong that is being done in Israel. It's agonizing to have to watch people running in the wrong direction and falling off a cliff. And if the Lord wants to SHOW Himself mightier than the mighty at any time, wow, we're all for it...even ask and plead and beg Him to. Not for our sakes, but for His sake, the sake of His name, and for righteousness' sake. I mean, who wouldn't want Him to?
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Post by joseph on Dec 1, 2020 9:05:35 GMT -5
"War on the Saints" by Jessie Penn-Lewis shows how even in many so-called 'REVIVALS', the enemy has gained ground (way more dangerous than so-called 'GLOBALISM' ....)
When Israel wanted to move in the direction of 'DEMOCRACY', God had already previously WARNED THEM, what would happen, and then God PUNISHED them for rejecting God, as written.
By 1955, books and reviews and reports , etc, were describing the untied states as a police state like nazi germany. And so it was, and so it is.
'The wicked gain ground'? They have been in power for centuries. Worldwide. Developing and completing many many plans of evil, as God always knew and permitted. Even today , with the total deception of /by pharmacy/ covid/ other so-called viruses (never identified except on paper) ...
Politics, Economy, Education, Stock Markets, Entertainment, Counselors (professional and other), Doctors/ Medical.....
all long often starting in and now continuing in the power of the enemy.
"The truth is we sure do not know it all . I too have no desire to see the wicked gain ground and take over everything . But as we both know , GOD is in control . "
"As in the days of NOAH" , so it is, only worse, .... billions totally deceived, besides the unbelievers .... on judgment day hearing 'be gone' instead of 'welcome into My Kingdom'. Babylon, long before catholicism, today including that and most all the churches, agencies, governments, most everything... opposed to Christ Jesus, enemies of God and of all who love the truth, who are called according to God's Own Purpose...
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Post by watchful on Dec 1, 2020 10:29:33 GMT -5
"War on the Saints" by Jessie Penn-Lewis shows how even in many so-called 'REVIVALS', the enemy has gained ground (way more dangerous than so-called 'GLOBALISM' ....) When Israel wanted to move in the direction of 'DEMOCRACY', God had already previously WARNED THEM, what would happen, and then God PUNISHED them for rejecting God, as written. By 1955, books and reviews and reports , etc, were describing the untied states as a police state like nazi germany. And so it was, and so it is. 'The wicked gain ground'? They have been in power for centuries. Worldwide. Developing and completing many many plans of evil, as God always knew and permitted. Even today , with the total deception of /by pharmacy/ covid/ other so-called viruses (never identified except on paper) ... Politics, Economy, Education, Stock Markets, Entertainment, Counselors (professional and other), Doctors/ Medical..... all long often starting in and now continuing in the power of the enemy. "The truth is we sure do not know it all . I too have no desire to see the wicked gain ground and take over everything . But as we both know , GOD is in control . " "As in the days of NOAH" , so it is, only worse, .... billions totally deceived, besides the unbelievers .... on judgment day hearing 'be gone' instead of 'welcome into My Kingdom'. Babylon, long before catholicism, today including that and most all the churches, agencies, governments, most everything... opposed to Christ Jesus, enemies of God and of all who love the truth, who are called according to God's Own Purpose... Amen, yes, I see what you're saying. God's ways are not man's ways....all man's ways are opposed to God's ways, by their very nature being of the fallen flesh and not spirit. But, in line with this thread generally, the Lord does intervene in the affairs of man and this world, and even raises and lowers the kings and kingdoms of this world. Israelites in Babylon were told to pray for it's peace and prosperity and we are to pray for our governments. We can't stop what has been prophesied ultimately, but that should not stop us from interceding and seeking what is good. We may think we know this is the end, and I tend to think we have entered the beginning of sorrows.....but the truth is only God knows the day and the hour....the future and timing of everything is in His hands...for all we know the Lord may tarry a lot longer. Things have looked bleak before when many believers thought it was the end...even the early church thought they were living in the end. I just try to keep in mind that we simply do not know for sure, so we are to keep occupying until He comes, and that includes praying for governments and other things that are going in the world. The whole thing about watching is not about "knowing for sure", it's about being alert and ready and having our eyes on the Lord no matter what period of history we are living through, because deceptions and snares are not just a danger for the church and world at the very end....they are always a danger for every generation and every soul no matter what time it is.
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Post by joseph on Dec 1, 2020 15:18:26 GMT -5
"Things have looked bleak before when many believers thought it was the end...even the early church thought they were living in the end. "
Why did or would things look bleak for any true believers ?
The King of Kings, the King of Glory, the Savior of All He Redeemed is at Hand ! That is not at all "bleak", is it ?
Corrie ten Boom learned the infinitely priceless value of loving her enemies, forgiving those who slaughtered her family, her neighbors, both the Jews and the gentiles were slaughtered in tremendous numbers, and Corrie ten Boom learned in the prison camp to love and to forgive her captors....
The Apostles chained to stone cold wet dark walls , at midnight, sang out loud with great thanksgiving in their hearts, sang praises and psalms or hymns to the Creator ! THey did not say "oh, my, it sure looks bleak" did they ? They Rejoiced ! in Trials and Arrests and Beatings and Maryrdom.... same with millions of other also, from then to today...
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Post by watchful on Dec 1, 2020 17:04:11 GMT -5
"Things have looked bleak before when many believers thought it was the end...even the early church thought they were living in the end. " Why did or would things look bleak for any true believers ? The King of Kings, the King of Glory, the Savior of All He Redeemed is at Hand ! That is not at all "bleak", is it ? Corrie ten Boom learned the infinitely priceless value of loving her enemies, forgiving those who slaughtered her family, her neighbors, both the Jews and the gentiles were slaughtered in tremendous numbers, and Corrie ten Boom learned in the prison camp to love and to forgive her captors.... The Apostles chained to stone cold wet dark walls , at midnight, sang out loud with great thanksgiving in their hearts, sang praises and psalms or hymns to the Creator ! THey did not say "oh, my, it sure looks bleak" did they ? They Rejoiced ! in Trials and Arrests and Beatings and Maryrdom.... same with millions of other also, from then to today... Just a figure of speech brother....'negative' circumstances in the world similar to things that are prophesied to happen in the end.
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Post by frienduff on Dec 1, 2020 17:27:41 GMT -5
"Things have looked bleak before when many believers thought it was the end...even the early church thought they were living in the end. " Why did or would things look bleak for any true believers ? The King of Kings, the King of Glory, the Savior of All He Redeemed is at Hand ! That is not at all "bleak", is it ? Corrie ten Boom learned the infinitely priceless value of loving her enemies, forgiving those who slaughtered her family, her neighbors, both the Jews and the gentiles were slaughtered in tremendous numbers, and Corrie ten Boom learned in the prison camp to love and to forgive her captors.... The Apostles chained to stone cold wet dark walls , at midnight, sang out loud with great thanksgiving in their hearts, sang praises and psalms or hymns to the Creator ! THey did not say "oh, my, it sure looks bleak" did they ? They Rejoiced ! in Trials and Arrests and Beatings and Maryrdom.... same with millions of other also, from then to today... JUST remember . THERE is a big difference in forgiving our enemies , as there is to conforming to their unity . PONDER LONG on that .
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Post by watchful on Dec 3, 2020 10:49:07 GMT -5
Been hearing things about Trump supporters trying to rouse up some kind of civil war......that is so dreadful to think about, and I don't even want to think about it....but there is peace only in having the mind of the Lord on the matter, to know that He is ruling and reigning and bringing His purposes about and knowing that He is worthy of our trust.
Dan 5:28 PERES; Thy kingdom is divided, and given to the Medes (Darius) and Persians (Cyrus).
Jer 51:33 For thus saith the LORD of hosts, the God of Israel; The daughter of Babylon is like a threshingfloor, it is time to thresh her: yet a little while, and the time of her harvest shall come.
(Threshing divides the wheat from the chaff. Babylon being divided in two is also like a picture of the Red Sea being divided in two so the Israelites could escape Egypt…in this case, escape Babylon.)
Babylon split in two giving birth, as it were, to her harvest. What was her harvest? It was the harvest of the remnant of Jews who returned to Israel/Jerusalem and began rebuilding the Temple. If there is civil war or states seceding the union in America many Jews will find it too uncomfortable to remain and will return to Israel (along with all their wealth that they acquired while in “Babylon”). This would greatly strengthen the state of Israel.
Now that speaks of the natural realm….but there is a biblical principle of first the natural then the spiritual….so perhaps there will be a harvesting of a remnant in a spiritual sense as well, who will escape captivity and bondage to the world to be able to fully enter the kingdom of God. Bible says it is through much tribulation (threshing) that we enter the kingdom of God. And maybe new souls added to the kingdom as well, who knows, God knows. Like plundering the enemy’s camp on our way out......that’s the Lord’s idea of vengeance and would be according to biblical pattern, so wouldn't rule it out.
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Post by John on Dec 3, 2020 10:59:01 GMT -5
Been hearing things about Trump supporters trying to rouse up some kind of civil war......that is so dreadful to think about, and I don't even want to think about it....but there is peace only in having the mind of the Lord on the matter, to know that He is ruling and reigning and bringing His purposes about and knowing that He is worthy of our trust. Dan 5:28 PERES; Thy kingdom is divided, and given to the Medes (Darius) and Persians (Cyrus). Jer 51:33 For thus saith the LORD of hosts, the God of Israel; The daughter of Babylon is like a threshingfloor, it is time to thresh her: yet a little while, and the time of her harvest shall come.(Threshing divides the wheat from the chaff. Babylon being divided in two is also like a picture of the Red Sea being divided in two so the Israelites could escape Egypt…in this case, escape Babylon.) Babylon split in two giving birth, as it were, to her harvest. What was her harvest? It was the harvest of the remnant of Jews who returned to Israel/Jerusalem and began rebuilding the Temple. If there is civil war or states seceding the union in America many Jews will find it too uncomfortable to remain and will return to Israel (along with all their wealth that they acquired while in “Babylon”). This would greatly strengthen the state of Israel. Now that speaks of the natural realm….but there is a biblical principle of first the natural then the spiritual….so perhaps there will be a harvesting of a remnant in a spiritual sense as well, who will escape captivity and bondage to the world to be able to fully enter the kingdom of God. Bible says it is through much tribulation (threshing) that we enter the kingdom of God. And maybe new souls added to the kingdom as well, who knows, God knows. Like plundering the enemy’s camp on our way out......that’s the Lord’s idea of vengeance and would be according to biblical pattern, so wouldn't rule it out. Who is saying that? Most of us supporting President Trump are still seeing a path to victory. If Biden successfully steals the election, all bets are off.
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Post by ohhello on Dec 3, 2020 13:01:12 GMT -5
Have you seen this?
Let us keep focused on Jesus at all times.
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Post by watchful on Dec 3, 2020 14:53:45 GMT -5
Been hearing things about Trump supporters trying to rouse up some kind of civil war......that is so dreadful to think about, and I don't even want to think about it....but there is peace only in having the mind of the Lord on the matter, to know that He is ruling and reigning and bringing His purposes about and knowing that He is worthy of our trust. Dan 5:28 PERES; Thy kingdom is divided, and given to the Medes (Darius) and Persians (Cyrus). Jer 51:33 For thus saith the LORD of hosts, the God of Israel; The daughter of Babylon is like a threshingfloor, it is time to thresh her: yet a little while, and the time of her harvest shall come.(Threshing divides the wheat from the chaff. Babylon being divided in two is also like a picture of the Red Sea being divided in two so the Israelites could escape Egypt…in this case, escape Babylon.) Babylon split in two giving birth, as it were, to her harvest. What was her harvest? It was the harvest of the remnant of Jews who returned to Israel/Jerusalem and began rebuilding the Temple. If there is civil war or states seceding the union in America many Jews will find it too uncomfortable to remain and will return to Israel (along with all their wealth that they acquired while in “Babylon”). This would greatly strengthen the state of Israel. Now that speaks of the natural realm….but there is a biblical principle of first the natural then the spiritual….so perhaps there will be a harvesting of a remnant in a spiritual sense as well, who will escape captivity and bondage to the world to be able to fully enter the kingdom of God. Bible says it is through much tribulation (threshing) that we enter the kingdom of God. And maybe new souls added to the kingdom as well, who knows, God knows. Like plundering the enemy’s camp on our way out......that’s the Lord’s idea of vengeance and would be according to biblical pattern, so wouldn't rule it out. Who is saying that? Most of us supporting President Trump are still seeing a path to victory. If Biden successfully steals the election, all bets are off.
I sure hope and pray it can be done peacefully brother. Think you might have misunderstood.....I wasn't accusing Trump supporters....I meant the thought of another civil war in America is dreadful...don't know how I could bear to watch that even from the relative comfort of being north of the border.
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Post by frienduff on Dec 3, 2020 18:03:00 GMT -5
Who is saying that? Most of us supporting President Trump are still seeing a path to victory. If Biden successfully steals the election, all bets are off.
I sure hope and pray it can be done peacefully brother. Think you might have misunderstood.....I wasn't accusing Trump supporters....I meant the thought of another civil war in America is dreadful...don't know how I could bear to watch that even from the relative comfort of being north of the border. SHANT WONT CANT . let us learn those three words well . FOR SIE ORDER CANT < WONT and SHANT be STOPPED . WELCOME TO THE LAST DAYS . WE ALL KNEW where it was headed . AND i saw a beast rise out of the earth . To whom the dragon hands all power . AND HE has power OVER the nations and it comes to make war against the lambs . SIE ORDER IS THAT SYSTEM . SIE ORDER is of the dragon . AND IT MAKES ready a system and a world and mindsets to follow that system and that world . IT WILL HAND all power UNTO the beast . I ALREADY KNOW WHO WINS . OH ITS TRUE many lambs are gonna BLEED in the days to come , BUT WE WIN . AND WE WIN , CAUSE JESUS WON . OUR END IS GOOD . THEY CAN KEEP THIS WORLD and all its hopes . I GOTS MINE . HIS NAME IS JESUS . HE ALONE is all i need . HE ALONE . YEP , sister knows what i say . SHE KNOWS JESUS IS THE ONLY HOPE , SHE KNOWS THIS WORLD is not home . JESUS IS HOME . Whatever comes , WILL COME , BUT JESUS WILL COME AS WELL , OH YES HE WILL . THE LAMBS WIN . TO JESUS BE THE GLORY . That is all i have to say .
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Post by frienduff on Dec 3, 2020 18:15:00 GMT -5
CLING TO JESUS . CLING TO JESUS . cause what is coming will not , shall not , cannot be stopped . The next move will be to convince the world that anyone who supported certain things ARE THE PROBLEM . And CHRIS has jumped the gun on that one . BUT I SAW it coming . KNEW where it was headed . WE IN THE LAST DAYS . If the world never loved lambs , THEN what makes us think in the last of days we would be recieved . IN fact the truth is , THe longer it goes on , ONLY THE MORE HATRED comes against the lambs . GOT TWO WORDS , OH WELL . OH WELL . THEY can do as they do to me . LAMBS HAVE ALL HOPE , LAMBS have a good end . PEROID . Now pray for those who persecute and will soon heavily persecute us . BUT NEVAH CONFORM to a lie .
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Post by watchful on Dec 4, 2020 8:18:42 GMT -5
I sure hope and pray it can be done peacefully brother. Think you might have misunderstood.....I wasn't accusing Trump supporters....I meant the thought of another civil war in America is dreadful...don't know how I could bear to watch that even from the relative comfort of being north of the border. SHANT WONT CANT . let us learn those three words well . FOR SIE ORDER CANT < WONT and SHANT be STOPPED . WELCOME TO THE LAST DAYS . WE ALL KNEW where it was headed . AND i saw a beast rise out of the earth . To whom the dragon hands all power . AND HE has power OVER the nations and it comes to make war against the lambs . SIE ORDER IS THAT SYSTEM . SIE ORDER is of the dragon . AND IT MAKES ready a system and a world and mindsets to follow that system and that world . IT WILL HAND all power UNTO the beast . I ALREADY KNOW WHO WINS . OH ITS TRUE many lambs are gonna BLEED in the days to come , BUT WE WIN . AND WE WIN , CAUSE JESUS WON . OUR END IS GOOD . THEY CAN KEEP THIS WORLD and all its hopes . I GOTS MINE . HIS NAME IS JESUS . HE ALONE is all i need . HE ALONE . YEP , sister knows what i say . SHE KNOWS JESUS IS THE ONLY HOPE , SHE KNOWS THIS WORLD is not home . JESUS IS HOME . Whatever comes , WILL COME , BUT JESUS WILL COME AS WELL , OH YES HE WILL . THE LAMBS WIN . TO JESUS BE THE GLORY . That is all i have to say . I dont' for one second believe that prophecy will be stopped either brother (and I have no lasting home in this wicked world but am looking forward to the world to come). Just that I wonder if lots of things can still happen in the meantime, and need to actually, in order that prophecies be fulfilled.
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