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Post by frienduff on Jun 24, 2018 19:44:08 GMT -5
DIRE TRUTH SISTER . DIRE TRUTH . the LORD revealed that to me Years ago . We wonder WHY their are so many different views on end times , GO back and see what each one who taught as they did , FIRST DID WITH JESUS and HIS SAYINGS . And everytime I see a warped end time eschatology , I question the one who taught it with JESUS basic sayings . YOU know what . EVERY TIME , EVERY SINGLE TIME they have OMITTED at least two or more of JESUS sayings . SO no wonder they get delusion . ON HIS DAY , he never mentioned one got told I NEVER knew you , cause you did not understand all end time prophecy . NOPE its because they were hearers but NOT DOERS of the WORD. They twisted HIS SAYINGS , HIS WORD and on that day , JUST as JESUS said , MY WORDS will be YOUR JUDGE> YEAH , what you said , IS DIRE DIRE DIRE DIRE DIRE DIRE TRUTH .
Frienduff If you see a warped end time eschatology especially on your own forum, you should rebuke openly and give scripture as to why, and not remain silent. The truth should be defended at all costs and the Word of God is our judge on a matter. I think that if we disagree on something someone says, to remain silent and spare their feelings is not putting the truth first. Talking about them, or around them is not how the Lord wants us to deal with each other, but through direct responses to that person having good communication skills to settle a matter. Ie, grab the bull by the horns then and there,...don't shake your head and walk away, but show love by correcting and giving good proof that they are wrong. This is love.
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Post by Sister on Jun 24, 2018 19:44:30 GMT -5
DIRE TRUTH SISTER . DIRE TRUTH . the LORD revealed that to me Years ago . We wonder WHY their are so many different views on end times , GO back and see what each one who taught as they did , FIRST DID WITH JESUS and HIS SAYINGS . And everytime I see a warped end time eschatology , I question the one who taught it with JESUS basic sayings . YOU know what . EVERY TIME , EVERY SINGLE TIME they have OMITTED at least two or more of JESUS sayings . SO no wonder they get delusion . ON HIS DAY , he never mentioned one got told I NEVER knew you , cause you did not understand all end time prophecy . NOPE its because they were hearers but NOT DOERS of the WORD. They twisted HIS SAYINGS , HIS WORD and on that day , JUST as JESUS said , MY WORDS will be YOUR JUDGE> YEAH , what you said , IS DIRE DIRE DIRE DIRE DIRE DIRE TRUTH .
Frienduff If you see a warped end time eschatology especially on your own forum, you should rebuke openly and give scripture as to why, and not remain silent. The truth should be defended at all costs and the Word of God is our judge on a matter. I think that if we disagree on something someone says, to remain silent and spare their feelings is not putting the truth first. Talking about them, or around them is not how the Lord wants us to deal with each other, but through direct responses to that person having good communication skills to settle a matter. Ie, grab the bull by the horns then and there,...don't shake your head and walk away, but show love by correcting and giving good proof that they are wrong. This is love. Sister Lights But that doesn't tell us anything we don't know. It's just "speaking" about them, in a negative light, and not giving any reasons why they are wrong. Needs to be expanded on where their doctrine has gone wrong and out in the open so we can learn. Show their doctrine(s) and bring out scriptures.
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Post by frienduff on Jun 24, 2018 19:52:32 GMT -5
Sister . Their is some outright frightening things some are teaching . And I mean things that would keep small children up at night . Bringing the upmost bizarre teachings about end times . Phew , its a madhouse . I don't read concepts from other books outside the bible . I tried it once , cause a Franciscan nun, secular fransican nun had asked me to at least read those other books . So she let me read her douehmy Rheims and those other books . SISTER , I nearly cried at every book . PHEW WEE, thems was filled with the wisdom of men . NO wonder they were pulled out of the KJV. but , at least I did read them to make sure . PHEW WEE, nope they aint for me . I mean, goats bleeting and Daniel and the dragon and other things , truths mixed with mans wisdom . It was enough that I could barely get through them. Some of them , I had to just stop . MAN , making me feel all empty and just dead . But that BIBLE. OH MAN, always JOY FILLED and EDIFIED. I would like all to answer . WHY that was that way for me . NOW I already KNOW the answer . But I would like some input from others who just embrace those books . WHY were they so empty to me , and yet so alive to others . AND WHY is the bible so edifying FOR ME , a book I just have no desire to put down . HOW come I don't get that from them other books . ANYONE wanna answer . I mean I KNOW why . Anyway , may all praise the LORD .
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Post by frienduff on Jun 24, 2018 19:59:27 GMT -5
Sister . no one was talking about anyone on this site . Don't let the mind wander into that realm. its how the dark one tries to separate .
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Post by frienduff on Jun 24, 2018 20:07:27 GMT -5
What we should do , is examine and exhort on all of JESUS sayings . That is what I mostly did . But I warn us all, FOLKS FIGHT LIKE HECK when I say one or two of JESUS sayings and they done twisted them . MAN they fight and fight and fight . Never once have I seen one repent even when I corrected BY JESUS sayings . they attack it . I pray hard and feverent that none of us here will do that . I mean IF WE LOVE JESUS , then we LOVE HIS SAYINGS . this is where the rift meets the raft though . For I have seen many claim to LOVE JESUS and even say that , AND YET they have willfully broken his sayings , JUSTIFY IT and refuse to repent . I mean some of the biggest battles I have come up against aint end time pre mid or post trib. ITS when I see the error and then The SPIRIT has me to ask them about some of JESUS sayings and BAM , their it is , they justify remarriage , or they justify heaping up money , or whatever it is . But I pray this does not happen here . Now I am going to go ahead and let all of us in on something . And its something I have been called a loser for or something I have been told GOD gives me grace if I were to DO IT . YALL READY . By grace I have been a single man for years and years now . DO you all want to know WHY . CAUSE if I remarry another ITS ADULTERY . NO IFS , NO ANDS and NO BUTS about it . YET , HAPPY IS THE ONE WHO KEEPS HIS SAYINGS . I mean HOW DEPRESSED DO I SEEM . I GOT THE JOY OF THE LORD . WE don't put away wives and wives don't put away husbands and remarry and THEN JUSTIFY IT . Cuase the GRACE OF GOD don't teach us TO TRANSGRESS the sayings OF JESUS . NOW HOW many think I am wrong about this . Yet , I get accused of being wrong all the time . by those who I don't see no joy in . AINT that something .
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Post by PG4Him on Jun 24, 2018 20:10:10 GMT -5
Did you soak in that scripture I gave you? that the "testimony of Jesus" is the spirit of prophecy? One gives, one receives. The holy spirit is that telephone line so to speak, so you can hear and understand that spirit speaking which is the spirit of truth which shall show us "all things to come", not just some things , but "all".....the whole lot that has been given in the scriptures from the Word of God.There is a bit of conflation going on here that I want to clear up. Jesus has shown us what will happen in the end. No doubt about it. I believe every word of it. That prophesy has been given to us. But interpretation of an existing prophesy is not what makes someone a prophet. Going through Daniel/Revelation to figure out what will happen isn’t prophesying. It’s exegesis. People with a good grasp on Revelation are good at studying Scripture. That’s it. When I speak of true prophets, I speak of people who are introducing new, original information. Not new Scripture, but a truly unique word about my destiny, my calling, God’s work in my generation, etc. People who lie about this are false prophets doing much damage. If a preacher is teaching unbiblical things, whether from Revelation or from Proverbs, bad teaching is bad teaching. But at the end of the day, it’s just teaching. It doesn’t mean someone is a bad person because they’re confused about a metaphorical woman in the sky. It is very dangerous to de-legitimize the preaching of the gospel over disagreements in Revelation. I don’t know why this continues to be such a distressing proposition.
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Post by frienduff on Jun 24, 2018 20:21:53 GMT -5
SISTER candance , you loved no matter what the pope or anyone says against you . I mean it don't matter what the common man or presidents or world leaders or well renown scholars , the pope or any says about ya sister . I LOVES YA . IF a man LOVES ME , HE KEEPS MY SAYINGS . AND When I see another one WHO LOVES JESUS , and don't fight against HIS sayings , but agrees . MAN my heart lights up with joy and happiness. You loved sister . it don't matter what the world thinks about us , we forgive all who hate us , but by grace we never conform to their lies . NOW THROW THOSE HANDS UP , THROW THEM UP , LEAP UP , YES leap up out of that chair . AND PRAISE THE LORD . PS, if your mobile and driving , you don't have to leap up . But we can praise HIM THOUGH .
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Post by PG4Him on Jun 24, 2018 20:23:59 GMT -5
Now I am going to go ahead and let all of us in on something . And its something I have been called a loser for or something I have been told GOD gives me grace if I were to DO IT . YALL READY . By grace I have been a single man for years and years now . DO you all want to know WHY . CAUSE if I remarry another ITS ADULTERY . NO IFS , NO ANDS and NO BUTS about it . YET , HAPPY IS THE ONE WHO KEEPS HIS SAYINGS . I mean HOW DEPRESSED DO I SEEM . I GOT THE JOY OF THE LORD . WE don't put away wives and wives don't put away husbands and remarry and THEN JUSTIFY IT . Cuase the GRACE OF GOD don't teach us TO TRANSGRESS the sayings OF JESUS. Good for you, Frienduff. I really mean that. Not many people today will stick by a conviction. As soon as it’s inconvenient, they toss it out the window. Then they start yelling at you just because you disagree. Call me old-fashioned if you want. Call me a prude. Call me anything you like. In this world, such things are a compliment. It means I’m different. All of this will pass away, and I will see Jesus face to face. Nothing else matters.
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Post by tlsitd on Jun 24, 2018 20:24:34 GMT -5
DIRE TRUTH SISTER . DIRE TRUTH . the LORD revealed that to me Years ago . We wonder WHY their are so many different views on end times , GO back and see what each one who taught as they did , FIRST DID WITH JESUS and HIS SAYINGS . And everytime I see a warped end time eschatology , I question the one who taught it with JESUS basic sayings . YOU know what . EVERY TIME , EVERY SINGLE TIME they have OMITTED at least two or more of JESUS sayings . SO no wonder they get delusion . ON HIS DAY , he never mentioned one got told I NEVER knew you , cause you did not understand all end time prophecy . NOPE its because they were hearers but NOT DOERS of the WORD. They twisted HIS SAYINGS , HIS WORD and on that day , JUST as JESUS said , MY WORDS will be YOUR JUDGE> YEAH , what you said , IS DIRE DIRE DIRE DIRE DIRE DIRE TRUTH .
Frienduff If you see a warped end time eschatology especially on your own forum, you should rebuke openly and give scripture as to why, and not remain silent. The truth should be defended at all costs and the Word of God is our judge on a matter. I think that if we disagree on something someone says, to remain silent and spare their feelings is not putting the truth first. Talking about them, or around them is not how the Lord wants us to deal with each other, but through direct responses to that person having good communication skills to settle a matter. Ie, grab the bull by the horns then and there,...don't shake your head and walk away, but show love by correcting and giving good proof that they are wrong. This is love. A person can only receive the truth that God enables him or her to receive, regardless of how much Scripture is provided. And that goes for all people. It is God Himself, and not just His written word, who gives a person correct understanding of His written word, and if He does not do this, all the Scripture in the Bible won't show him or her truth that God does not show or convict him or her of; the person will just keep using more and more Scripture to "support" his or her own misunderstanding of Scripture. And engaging in long debates with someone whose doctrine or Scriptural understanding is flawed is generally a fruitless and counterproductive activity which results in strife and poisons the atmosphere of a forum, to the detriment of others. Wisdom is knowing when to leave a thing alone and let God take care of it, because He is the only one who can, and each person's faith must dictate to him or her when to engage or not engage and when enough is enough said---and no one can or should argue with that, as it is a matter of personal conviction and God's own judgment. In God's eyes, a person's doctrine, and his or her obedience to His doctrine (both in deed and in heart), is far more important than understanding eschatology (believe it or not). God will show the one who loves and seeks to please Him everything that he or she truly needs to know about eschatology in His good time. One can have a perfect heart toward God without having a perfect understanding of eschatology. The Christian who truly loves God and desires to do His will and to honor Him will receive all the understanding from Him about all things that is necessary for him or her to have, not just eschatology. (I don't believe that your emphasis on this particular subject being of central importance to a Christian's walk with the Lord is God's emphasis. Take care that you don't make more of it than He does.)
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Post by frienduff on Jun 24, 2018 20:34:23 GMT -5
Now I am going to go ahead and let all of us in on something . And its something I have been called a loser for or something I have been told GOD gives me grace if I were to DO IT . YALL READY . By grace I have been a single man for years and years now . DO you all want to know WHY . CAUSE if I remarry another ITS ADULTERY . NO IFS , NO ANDS and NO BUTS about it . YET , HAPPY IS THE ONE WHO KEEPS HIS SAYINGS . I mean HOW DEPRESSED DO I SEEM . I GOT THE JOY OF THE LORD . WE don't put away wives and wives don't put away husbands and remarry and THEN JUSTIFY IT . Cuase the GRACE OF GOD don't teach us TO TRANSGRESS the sayings OF JESUS. Good for you, Frienduff. I really mean that. Not many people today will stick by a conviction. As soon as it’s inconvenient, they toss it out the window. Then they start yelling at you just because you disagree. Call me old-fashioned if you want. Call me a prude. Call me anything you like. In this world, such things are a compliment. It means I’m different. All of this will pass away, and I will see Jesus face to face. Nothing else matters. you wont hear old fashioned or prude from me dear sister . I will say , YOU LOVED SISTER . NOW THROW THOSE HANDS UP and LET US ALL REJOICE IN THE LORD . THE ONLY REASON we were even drawn to Christ was by the FATHER . Let us continue in HIS grace , obeying HIS SPIRIT and feasting on sound doctrine so as we are made wise unto salvation through our faith in Christ . SISTER, IT IS TRULY LORD PRAISING TIME . People , HE who created all, became FLESH and was actually, SPIT ON , YES SPIT ON , mocked , beaten , beaten down so bad he would have died from even those wounds . SO WE COULD HAVE SALVATOIN . NOW , to me , THAT IS ALL THE REASON I NEED TO REJOICE . I was naught but wicked , and man I mean wicked to the core . GOD forgave me FOR JESUS sake , NOT what I did , WHAT JESUS DID for me . THAT is why we have HOPE . THAT , HE ALONE is why we got HOPE . GODS ARM DID BRING SALVATION and how horrible to watch men mock that , by saying HIS NAME , but denying HIS SAYINGS . We owe OUR LORD much more than that . WE owe HIM our entire LIFE and no matter what the cost WE will rejoice IN HIM and BY HIM . OH MAN , its LORD PRAISING TIME folks . YES , LORD PRAISING TIME .
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Post by frienduff on Jun 24, 2018 20:38:10 GMT -5
THE JOY of the LORD is our strength , and HIS SALVATION is our JOY . but I warn us all, lusts will choke that RIGHT OUT OF US . I SEEN many who get mad at GOD cause they don't get they hearts desire , they don't get that new big house, or whatever . PLEASE I say . I REJIOCE cause I AM SAVED BY HIS GRACE Given us IN CHRIST . And it don't matter what we lose , MY JOY , OUR JOY wont fade . Grown men could sing in prison , SO WE CAN WE , grown men rejoiced when they were beaten for his name sake , SO WILL WE , if our faith , our hope REMAINS IN HIM and some lust don't choke it out . THE JOY of the LORD , is simply TO KNOW HIM MORE no matter what the cost . OH man, truly it is LORD PRAISING TIME AGAIN . NOw lets throw those hands up and PRAISE THE LORD .
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Post by tlsitd on Jun 24, 2018 20:43:43 GMT -5
There's no need to write essays on all of the things that are incorrect about the teachings of various groups that are teaching error, comparing what they teach and believe with what the New Testament teaches. If you know what the New Testament teaches, and have a firm grasp on that, then when you hear error, you'll know it, because you know what the Bible teaches about it. Not many people want to read essays on the beliefs of every heretical group. People who are interested in finding out what various groups believe can do so on their own---guided by faith. But they'd do better to spend their time studying God's word in order to know His doctrine very well, so that no matter what they hear from whatever place they may hear it, they will know what is truth and what is error, and what is of God and what is not.
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Post by PG4Him on Jun 24, 2018 20:45:07 GMT -5
you wont hear old fashioned or prude from me dear sister . I will say , YOU LOVED SISTER . NOW THROW THOSE HANDS UP and LET US ALL REJOICE IN THE LORD . THE ONLY REASON we were even drawn to Christ was by the FATHER . Let us continue in HIS grace , obeying HIS SPIRIT and feasting on sound doctrine so as we are made wise unto salvation through our faith in Christ . SISTER, IT IS TRULY LORD PRAISING TIME . People , HE who created all, became FLESH and was actually, SPIT ON , YES SPIT ON , mocked , beaten , beaten down so bad he would have died from even those wounds . SO WE COULD HAVE SALVATOIN . NOW , to me , THAT IS ALL THE REASON I NEED TO REJOICE . I was naught but wicked , and man I mean wicked to the core . GOD forgave me FOR JESUS sake , NOT what I did , WHAT JESUS DID for me . THAT is why we have HOPE . THAT , HE ALONE is why we got HOPE . GODS ARM DID BRING SALVATION and how horrible to watch men mock that , by saying HIS NAME , but denying HIS SAYINGS . We owe OUR LORD much more than that . WE owe HIM our entire LIFE and no matter what the cost WE will rejoice IN HIM and BY HIM . OH MAN , its LORD PRAISING TIME folks . YES , LORD PRAISING TIME . This brings us back to the OP. When we think of what Jesus did to purchase His bride — the amazing price He paid — how dare we think He’s coming back for a rebellious, opinionated, humanistic bride. I truly, dearly hope that He will be pleased with me.
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Post by 2fw8212a on Jun 24, 2018 20:55:26 GMT -5
This brings us back to the OP. When we think of what Jesus did to purchase His bride — the amazing price He paid — how dare we think He’s coming back for a rebellious, opinionated, humanistic bride. I truly, dearly hope that He will be pleased with me. "And now, little children, abide in Him, that when He appears, we may have confidence and not be ashamed before Him at His coming." - 1 John 2:28
"Love has been perfected among us in this: that we may have boldness in the day of judgment; because as He is, so are we in this world." - 1 John 4:17
"And everyone who has this hope in Him purifies himself, just as He is pure." - 1 John 3:3
"and come forth—those who have done good, to the resurrection of life, and those who have done evil, to the resurrection of condemnation." - John 5:29 God bless you in Jesus' name!
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Post by Sister on Jun 24, 2018 21:20:15 GMT -5
Sister . Their is some outright frightening things some are teaching . And I mean things that would keep small children up at night . Bringing the upmost bizarre teachings about end times . Phew , its a madhouse . I don't read concepts from other books outside the bible . I tried it once , cause a Franciscan nun, secular fransican nun had asked me to at least read those other books . So she let me read her douehmy Rheims and those other books . SISTER , I nearly cried at every book . PHEW WEE, thems was filled with the wisdom of men . NO wonder they were pulled out of the KJV. but , at least I did read them to make sure .PHEW WEE, nope they aint for me . I mean, goats bleeting and Daniel and the dragon and other things , truths mixed with mans wisdom . It was enough that I could barely get through them. Some of them , I had to just stop . MAN , making me feel all empty and just dead .But that BIBLE. OH MAN, always JOY FILLED and EDIFIED. I would like all to answer . WHY that was that way for me . NOW I already KNOW the answer . But I would like some input from others who just embrace those books . WHY were they so empty to me , and yet so alive to others . AND WHY is the bible so edifying FOR ME , a book I just have no desire to put down . HOW come I don't get that from them other books . ANYONE wanna answer . I mean I KNOW why . Anyway , may all praise the LORD . Frienduff........are you speaking about the apocrypha books that were removed from the KJV bible? ....you have to give an example, or quote a scripture that made your skin crawl so we can take a look at it, to see what you are speaking about and analyse whether you just misunderstood something, or it is in fact a contradiction. Test all things, because maybe back then, you didn't know what you know now......this is what the OT was like for me when I first read it,...I thought how could God be so mean, hard and cruel, and then it wasn't until I had more understanding that I realised his ways were fair and that he did everything for a good reason, being firm to keep the rest of the apples from getting contaminated. Now I see that everything he does is out of love for his children, and his judgements fair.
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