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Post by karanbac on May 3, 2018 16:10:25 GMT -5
I am not convinced there is a massive universe like scientists claim, with planets orbiting distant suns. What if the sun is a unique creation, and it is not a star at all? I believe that if you sent a ship into space heading away from earth, you would eventually reach the end and you couldn't go any further. I love that there is a firmament....and theres video of man trying to nuke or bomb the firmament.....I believe God made a circle, a circle is flat. He didnt make a globe and man cant go past lower earth orbit....so much deception that I know I am in the minority but I really do like Gleason 1892 map of the world. It makes sense. I am certainly excited to be with God and learn how He did all that, Hes sooooooo amazing!
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Post by karanbac on May 3, 2018 16:17:05 GMT -5
In the beginning proof that God made TIME and that there was a beginning and that He is eternal God created....God created matter, animals, humans, vegetation, the seasons and the days. He is Creator of all that follows!
Its just amazing, it makes me cry sometimes how wonderful He is.
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Post by Sister on May 5, 2018 3:09:02 GMT -5
I am not convinced there is a massive universe like scientists claim, with planets orbiting distant suns. What if the sun is a unique creation, and it is not a star at all? I believe that if you sent a ship into space heading away from earth, you would eventually reach the end and you couldn't go any further. I love that there is a firmament....and theres video of man trying to nuke or bomb the firmament.....I believe God made a circle, a circle is flat. He didnt make a globe and man cant go past lower earth orbit....so much deception that I know I am in the minority but I really do like Gleason 1892 map of the world. It makes sense. I am certainly excited to be with God and learn how He did all that, Hes sooooooo amazing! karanbac
I am of the minority also. They fed us all these lies first, made us believe it as if it were truth, .....supposed to be common knowledge...we knew no better, ...they took in billions of dollars of tax payers money for space exploration, research, whatever, ...what have they done with that money?.....now God is exposing all their lies, not through t.v.,and radio, but through the internet, ...spreading the message fast that we've been lied to, with tons and tons of proof of things that just don't work according to their indoctrination......
What else do we expect from Satan's kingdom, the father of lies?...and knowing the purpose of what this big lie is, and what it leads to....is absolute mind blowing. The Lord is leaving us clues everywhere, that the whole world is a sham, a stage show, mostly everything is false in what they've taught us,....we just have to stop and think who's running this world?, is it not the prince of darkness?
I am proud to say that I am a firm believer in the flat earth, and the firmament is the canopy that covers the earth, the dome with seven heavens inside it,....seven layers of water, getting thicker and thicker until it's rock solid ice that looks like crystal glass. No rocket or anything is going to get through that, ....it has been proven, it just slows down as the condensation up there gets thicker,...it does a little squiggly sideways (through the first layer of water), then comes straight back down.
The planets are stars. This is why we can see them with telescopes, because they are inside the earth, the moon also and the sun. God placed the stars in those layers up there, some are more distant than others, the bigger ones are closer. The more distance ones sparkle because they are in water, we are looking up there and they are magnified through the water and shape of the dome. We've been lied to, everything is placed here inside earth for us. May everyone's eyes be opened. God is revealing all to us in these last days.
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2018 7:40:42 GMT -5
It was the Lord who foretold that knowledge would increase in the last days....and of course He was right. What may be known of God may be seen in all that He has created.....the more science discovers and observes, the more we may see and learn about this wonderful incredible genius God we are so privileged to call our Father...it glorifies Him and makes us marvel at Him all the more. My faith is not threatened by science one iota. Well, they call it science, but I call it miraculous and mind-blowing, the things that God has wrought.
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Post by karanbac on May 5, 2018 8:54:23 GMT -5
HALLEUJAH! Yes yes yes! When I thought of why do we expect men to act or obey God when this is the devils playground but for a time? He is prince of this fallen planet and he can have it! I need nor want nothing, no thing but God. I pray for everyone that day by day many come to realize that God is Who He says He is, OUR CREATOR!! God reveals Himself to us in little bits or at least to me as I know my head would explode with all that Hes revealed to me. Then to learn that the Bible is called a progressive revelation meaning the more I understand, the more I will be able to “know” about God and mature in Him. We are so very blessed to have The Truth, the Only Truth that really matters. It will be a long, tough haul in the coming years yet Jesus is our Hope, God is our Father and the Holy Spirit will lead us through it all. God bless you all and let’s give Him praise and glory!
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Post by karanbac on May 7, 2018 15:06:03 GMT -5
From John MacArthur Study Bible GENESIS 1:1 Give us 7 Key TRUTHS about God that the rest of the Bible is based on. 1) God exists 2) God existed before the universe and He will exist after the universe perishes. 3) GOD is the main character in the whole bible. 4) God is the Creator and that Hebrew word is never used of a humankind. 5) God is mysterious and the Hebrew word for God is plural. However in this verb form of God which is the subject is singular. This plural name points us to the Trinity later. 6) God is Creator of heaven and earth, He calls matter/things into being as He speaks. 7) God is not dependent on the universes but the universe is totally dependent on God.
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Post by John on May 9, 2018 22:14:21 GMT -5
I am not convinced there is a massive universe like scientists claim, with planets orbiting distant suns. What if the sun is a unique creation, and it is not a star at all? I believe that if you sent a ship into space heading away from earth, you would eventually reach the end and you couldn't go any further. I love that there is a firmament....and theres video of man trying to nuke or bomb the firmament.....I believe God made a circle, a circle is flat. He didnt make a globe and man cant go past lower earth orbit....so much deception that I know I am in the minority but I really do like Gleason 1892 map of the world. It makes sense. I am certainly excited to be with God and learn how He did all that, Hes sooooooo amazing! More and more people are turning to the belief in a flat earth rather than a globe shaped earth. Lets suppose that is true. There are a few things I can't figure out, and I would like your opinion about them. 1. How do we have such differences in time zones if the world is flat? You see the sun going over the horizon. 2. Air travel would be different in a flat world as opposed to a globe shaped planet. Wouldn't that be obvious to anyone that flies? 3. At some point, wouldn't someone have flown east or west to the point of reaching the edge of the earth? 4. What about satellites? This would mean there would have to be a massive cover up. There may be explanations for these things, but I haven't heard any that make sense thus far. A flat earth would make sense in many ways with regard to things taught in the Bible, but I can't figure out why so many people would cover it up.
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Post by justinadams on May 10, 2018 5:59:50 GMT -5
I love that there is a firmament....and theres video of man trying to nuke or bomb the firmament.....I believe God made a circle, a circle is flat. He didnt make a globe and man cant go past lower earth orbit....so much deception that I know I am in the minority but I really do like Gleason 1892 map of the world. It makes sense. I am certainly excited to be with God and learn how He did all that, Hes sooooooo amazing! More and more people are turning to the belief in a flat earth rather than a globe shaped earth. Lets suppose that is true. There are a few things I can't figure out, and I would like your opinion about them. 1. How do we have such differences in time zones if the world is flat? You see the sun going over the horizon. 2. Air travel would be different in a flat world as opposed to a globe shaped planet. Wouldn't that be obvious to anyone that flies? 3. At some point, wouldn't someone have flown east or west to the point of reaching the edge of the earth? 4. What about satellites? This would mean there would have to be a massive cover up. There may be explanations for these things, but I haven't heard any that make sense thus far. A flat earth would make sense in many ways with regard to things taught in the Bible, but I can't figure out why so many people would cover it up. I have flow planes in the southern and northern hemispheres. Meteorology is opposite 'down-under'. I can attest to the Coriolis effect being opposite in the southern hemisphere. I have been shipboard and attest that water going down the sink does reverse in the Southern Hemisphere as you cross the equator. I have flown both polar routes and the earth always seems to be a globe. (both circle routes) I have stood in Australia and NZ many times and seen that the dippers are indeed upside down. I have noted the Emperor Penguins in the Antarctic. And seen antarctic expedition footage. Live satellite footage is available to all and our weather satellites constantly update the met offices. This all first hand stuff I know of. I have not been 'stupid' for believing NASA Lies. Or mindless to believe the science I was taught in school. Most of my understanding is first hand and does not require text books or the written word to substantiate. No one can convince me that what I have witnessed is false. The world is a globe. Furthermore, if you scale it down proportionally, it is more perfectly spherical than the best billiard ball mankind can manufacture.
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Post by justinadams on May 10, 2018 6:17:28 GMT -5
The fact that God took people where they were and with their current world-view and inspired them to write things as they saw them does not mean that what they thought they knew cosmologically is relevant to us today. Mesopotamian thought was of a different cosmology than ours today. The Lord did not give them a 21 st century scientific mind-set, but took them as they came. It served His purposes. Ancient scripture is NOT supposed to be a scientific treatise. The Lord did NOT give them a 'data-dump' but rather used them in-situ to reveal His Nature and NOT His science. They wrote in their own words from their own experiences what the Lord High God wanted them to convey. No more. No less. It is disingenuous for us to take ancient cosmology and force it into a modern mold, then present it as scientific fact.
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2018 12:20:24 GMT -5
What may be known of God can be seen in what He created. It makes sense that there is an "infinite" universe because it speaks of the infinite God who created it, and it serves to remind us of how small we are compared to Him. Utterly ingenious how He made a habitat for man in the middle of nothingness. Circles and globes are an amazing concept and they speak of their creator as having no beginning and no end. It's amazing how He made gravity by the rotation of the globe so that we would not fall off or float away into space. What a GREAT God!
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Post by justinadams on May 11, 2018 4:19:22 GMT -5
I feel I should herald a note of warning here. The 'flat-earth' idea along with its inherent distrust of NASA and the proponents of governmental infidelity is fraught with error. I have found that this is the thin edge of a very large wedge. It is a slippery slope down to major error. If you study where and whence all these 'new' ideas came from you might be surprised.
If your God is too small, how small is too small and how big is too big? Yahweh Created a convenient size for His System to perform to His Standards. He could have made it ten times bigger or ten times smaller. So what? We are hoodwinked with our own concepts of acceptability. We are bigness bigots! It has to be bigger and better, or smaller and more compact. Why? Because we are overcome with our own brilliance of perception. Therefore we LIMIT everything to what we think it SHOULD be rather than what it ACTUALLY is.
I do not expect to be popular for this idea, but please take care with who and what you follow. The earth is a sphere - it always was and will be as long as the Lord High God wishes it to be so. The universe(s) are as large or as small as the Lord High God decides they will be. To be Eternally the Only Wise God suggests that He and His Creation are without end and stretch out forever. To be Infinite in a Godly domain means that while He sees fit, His Creation will always and forever endure for His pleasure and His Glory.
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Post by John on May 11, 2018 11:43:58 GMT -5
I feel I should herald a note of warning here. The 'flat-earth' idea along with its inherent distrust of NASA and the proponents of governmental infidelity is fraught with error. I have found that this is the thin edge of a very large wedge. It is a slippery slope down to major error. If you study where and whence all these 'new' ideas came from you might be surprised. If your God is too small, how small is too small and how big is too big? Yahweh Created a convenient size for His System to perform to His Standards. He could have made it ten times bigger or ten times smaller. So what? We are hoodwinked with our own concepts of acceptability. We are bigness bigots! It has to be bigger and better, or smaller and more compact. Why? Because we are overcome with our own brilliance of perception. Therefore we LIMIT everything to what we think it SHOULD be rather than what it ACTUALLY is. I do not expect to be popular for this idea, but please take care with who and what you follow. The earth is a sphere - it always was and will be as long as the Lord High God wishes it to be so. The universe(s) are as large or as small as the Lord High God decides they will be. To be Eternally the Only Wise God suggests that He and His Creation are without end and stretch out forever. To be Infinite in a Godly domain means that while He sees fit, His Creation will always and forever endure for His pleasure and His Glory. Flat earth, globe shaped earth, small universe, large universe, old earth, young earth, it doesn't matter. None of those things change the reality of God, and the Bible is not being contradicted over such things.
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Post by joseph on Apr 12, 2019 14:30:34 GMT -5
"Flat earth" wind of doctrine is today like a hand grenade without the pin pulled. As long as the pin is not pulled it does not explode and harm anyone.
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Post by justinadams on Apr 14, 2019 4:35:24 GMT -5
"Flat earth" wind of doctrine is today like a hand grenade without the pin pulled. As long as the pin is not pulled it does not explode and harm anyone. Unfortunately Joseph, even without the pin pulled, if you are beaten around the head and shoulders with it it can still do enough damage to prevent well reasoned thought. It has caused many to stumble; and this is the adversary's aim anyway, to cast doubt in the hearts of many.
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Post by justinadams on Apr 14, 2019 4:43:26 GMT -5
I am not convinced there is a massive universe like scientists claim, with planets orbiting distant suns. What if the sun is a unique creation, and it is not a star at all? I believe that if you sent a ship into space heading away from earth, you would eventually reach the end and you couldn't go any further. I love that there is a firmament....and theres video of man trying to nuke or bomb the firmament.....I believe God made a circle, a circle is flat. He didnt make a globe and man cant go past lower earth orbit....so much deception that I know I am in the minority but I really do like Gleason 1892 map of the world. It makes sense. I am certainly excited to be with God and learn how He did all that, Hes sooooooo amazing! I've been across the equator and visited 'down under' many times. Flown both polar routes and have also flown light aircraft in both hemispheres. The weather effects are different. The earth is undoubtedly a sphere and the Coriolis effects in both hemispheres are completely opposite as we are told. I have been aboard ship and witness the water going down the plug-hole in the opposite direction in the south when compared to the north. I have seen the dipper in the north and witnessed it upside down in the south. I have actually been to both hemispheres and witnessed the southern cross for myself. The earth is a beautiful sphere, and so is the moon. There is much more I could say so if you would like to know first-hand information, just ask me. P.s. I had driven across Iran just before the Shah was displaced and just as the Bulgarian murder squad killed that guy in the UK with an umbrella-injection capsule. I had just previously gone across the Bulgarian border and they all took notice of the cross on the front of our van. Months later, for the first time in many, I sailed across the equator and into the southern hemisphere. This was before I took many flight to NZ and AUS. So first-hand information and practical understanding gives me a unique approach.
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