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Post by justinadams on Jul 3, 2018 5:02:55 GMT -5
Remember the NY subway saying? Just because I am paranoid does not mean they are not out to get me.
Well, we hear a lot of conspiracies, SPEAK, subliminal RF, and new AI stuff surfacing today. Here are some additional thoughts.
I have a son that is on the Autism spectrum. In days past, if I was slightly upset with something he was doing, he would look up and see my body language. Then with EITHER hand would pick up an alphabet block and hurl it at my forehead. Nine times out of ten he would hit me with amazing accuracy.
Body language? AI does not care what language you use. Any spoken or written word is taken note of and did it ever occur to anyone that lipreading is on the list of ways to accumulate information? Spies are taught this and other ways of getting information. So whatever man has devised, an AI can utilize to gather its data. AI does not care for our feelings as it has none. We are just a number on a THREAT LEVEL or a part of 'the matrix' that is good code or bad code.
Remember HAL. Be warned. It will be the survival of the Gestalt that is the AI's primary goal. It will also gobble up its 'masters' with impunity.
Do not for one moment think you can outsmart this burgeoning science. You cannot.
As Believers in our Creator, The Most High Yahweh, we just need to be wily and harmless and proclaim our Father's Love.
Do not be afraid of AI. AI can only produce its father's fruit. Lies, destruction and death.
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Post by Cletus on Jul 3, 2018 7:52:15 GMT -5
I seemed to miss your point. I dont know HAL or gestalt? what are you saying here... artificial intelligence is bad?
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Post by 2fw8212a on Jul 3, 2018 8:15:55 GMT -5
I seemed to miss your point. I dont know HAL or gestalt? what are you saying here... artificial intelligence is bad? It is something to worry about... What can be done with it?!
"For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also." - James 2:26
"He was granted power to give breath to the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak and cause as many as would not worship the image of the beast to be killed." - Revelation 13:15 They could use it to code/program a spirit within it. "It is the Spirit who gives life; the flesh profits nothing. The words that I speak to you are spirit, and they are life." - John 6:63
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Post by Abby-Joy on Jul 3, 2018 14:12:53 GMT -5
1 Corinthians 2:16, "For who hath known the mind of the Lord, that he may instruct him? But we have the mind of Christ."
When we are walking in Him, relying on Him, abiding in Him, hidden in Him ...that is, Jesus Christ... they cannot approach unto the wisdom and mind of Christ.
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Post by frienduff on Jul 3, 2018 18:13:31 GMT -5
1 Corinthians 2:16, "For who hath known the mind of the Lord, that he may instruct him? But we have the mind of Christ."
When we are walking in Him, relying on Him, abiding in Him, hidden in Him ...that is, Jesus Christ... they cannot approach unto the wisdom and mind of Christ. THAT IS RIGHT SISTER . THAT IS RIGHT . YOU LOVED . NOW throw those hands up and PRAISE and shout praises TO THE LORD .
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Post by Cletus on Jul 3, 2018 22:05:56 GMT -5
I seemed to miss your point. I dont know HAL or gestalt? what are you saying here... artificial intelligence is bad? It is something to worry about... What can be done with it?!
"For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also." - James 2:26
"He was granted power to give breath to the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak and cause as many as would not worship the image of the beast to be killed." - Revelation 13:15 They could use it to code/program a spirit within it. "It is the Spirit who gives life; the flesh profits nothing. The words that I speak to you are spirit, and they are life." - John 6:63worry not letters. My confusion is based on ignorance. I dont like the idea scientists are trying to create a sentient being, and it makes my spirit want to not even talk about it... but i still do not know what HAL or Gestalt is? I ggogled hal and got stocks for Halliburton and some doctors and some kind of cartoons. for gestalt i got info on psychology and a theory.
if its a robot thats going around killing people thats the issue i am not to concerned as i got something for it.
if the concern is the antichrist, thats going to be a person.
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Post by justinadams on Jul 4, 2018 4:37:35 GMT -5
2001 A Space Oddesy features a sentient computer (HAL) that decides Dave, the astronaut is not of use anymore and tries to dispose of him. It is quite chilling and as a younger person when I saw that movie I was in awe.
Arthur C Clark was an atheist I believe. It is wise for the Children of Light to keep tabs on representatives of the adversary. Jung and Freud have formed much of our modern thoughts and you might be surprised at how many churches have their own psychology departments. Gnosis is what it boils down to. The mind of man elevating itself above the Mind of Christ.
Gestalt is a hive mentality and is well represented in Herbert's books. Understand and beware!!
Although these people are not Christian, they cannot avoid saying truths from time to time. Like Heinlein did in his brief statement that ends with, "...specialization is for insects.."
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2018 6:51:38 GMT -5
<< Gestalt is a hive mentality and is well represented in Herbert's books. Understand and beware!! >>
If memory serves, I think it was Karl Jung who also talked about "collective consciousness"......what these men are observing has an element of truth to it....and being separated from this hive is part of how we must come out of Babylon and free our minds/souls from it, because it actually is on a level of collective witchcraft, and sinful. It is actually the occult realm of demonic influence and messages. The minds of mankind are in bondage/slavery to it, to one degree or another (the devil works to increase it). New age also talks about this kind of oneness, and I believe also it is the same one mind being alluded to here:
Rev 17:13 These have one mind, and shall give their power and strength unto the beast.
But the mind that we are to be of, and have, is the mind of Christ which we receive when we are translated out of the kingdom of darkness (Babylon) into the kingdom of light.
Jer 51:6 Flee out of the midst of Babylon, and deliver every man his soul: be not cut off in her iniquity; for this is the time of the LORD'S vengeance; he will render unto her a recompence.
Jer 51:45 My people, go ye out of the midst of her, and deliver ye every man his soul from the fierce anger of the LORD.
Is 52:2 Shake thyself from the dust; arise, and sit down, O Jerusalem: loose thyself from the bands of thy neck, O captive daughter of Zion.
Pro 6:5 Deliver thyself as a roe from the hand of the hunter, and as a bird from the hand of the fowler.
Jer 51:50 Ye that have escaped the sword, go away, stand not still: remember the LORD afar off, and let Jerusalem come into your mind. (the mind of Christ and New Jerusalem)
This is one reason why Abraham was called to come out of his world of that time and follow the Lord alone….that his soul be severed, as it were, from the mind of the world, to seek the city whose foundations are in God:
Isa 51:2 Look unto Abraham your father, and unto Sarah that bare you: for I called him alone, and blessed him, and increased him.
Those who do not come out of Babylon in their minds/souls will not be able to help but receive of the delusional plague that God is judging her with.....so it is important that we seek to be free of Babylon's 'collective mind' in our minds/souls and have the mind of Christ. I think those who have experienced any level of mind control (and are aware of it) will understand this. And this is also what "political correctness" has been all about in this generation...increasing the captivity of people's minds...the beginning of the delusion which the Lord is allowing in order to judge Babylon with this infection/plague in order to ultimately bring it down. May the Lord deliver His people, amen.
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Post by justinadams on Jul 4, 2018 7:23:29 GMT -5
We are beset by Babylon 365/24/7. Who can withstand this? The fact that we know the difference sometimes makes the agony almost unbearable. The constant war within the flesh like Saul (Paul) mentions is no small thing. Perhaps if we 'think' we have made it we are in even greater danger! "Oh wretched man that I am" says the Apostle. I can identify with that.
Any of our 'good works' are as "filthy rags" says the Lord. I recall Colin Urquhart talking about a ministers' meeting he was involved in.. it started slowly and then on day two everyone was on their knees sobbing about their sins.
I recall Smith Wigglesworth's vestry meetings.. more often than not all present except him ended on the floor and were driven out the door by the Holy presence. He recounted once when he was on a train journey, he was praying as usual and then there was a commotion and the passengers came to him crying out that they "were convinced of sin".
I believe I have only once experienced something a little like this. Totally awe inspiring - QUIET POWER, IRREDUCIBLE HOLINESS.
I think for our benefit the Lord withholds His Presence often because it can be a consuming force in our frail persons.
I do often cringe when I am in an assembly where folk blithely sing, 'Come Holy Spirit, Come..' It worries me that if He did come as requested, we would all be flattened on our faces for a very long time...
Beware the Goodness and Severity of our Lord High God.
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Post by frienduff on Jul 4, 2018 10:02:19 GMT -5
2001 A Space Oddesy features a sentient computer (HAL) that decides Dave, the astronaut is not of use anymore and tries to dispose of him. It is quite chilling and as a younger person when I saw that movie I was in awe. Arthur C Clark was an atheist I believe. It is wise for the Children of Light to keep tabs on representatives of the adversary. Jung and Freud have formed much of our modern thoughts and you might be surprised at how many churches have their own psychology departments. Gnosis is what it boils down to. The mind of man elevating itself above the Mind of Christ. Gestalt is a hive mentality and is well represented in Herbert's books. Understand and beware!! Although these people are not Christian, they cannot avoid saying truths from time to time. Like Heinlein did in his brief statement that ends with, "...specialization is for insects.." The thing is AI wont be THE ANTI CHRIST . Take a look at Sophia . What do you see . WHEN she speaks WHO does she sound like . POLITICALLY CORRECT TO ME . ITS been pre programed HOW TO RESPOND . WHO do we THINK is running the AI show behind the scenes . WHY Does Sophia sound so PC . CAUSE SHE HAS BEEN PROGRAMMED HOW TO RESPOND to questions , and folks buy into it , LIKE ITS THE ROBOT ITSELF that came up with this . HOW much you wanna bet , THEY also start talking about the dangers of over population . OR other ELITE agendas . And again people will buy it , cause they think well AI is not political . SURE IT IS . THEY PRE PROGRAMED and LIFELESS computer to say EXACTLY WHAT THEY want it to say . AI will be part OF THE ANTI CHRIST KINGDOM . NO DOUBT ON THAT . NO DOUBT . But the anti Christ himself will be as he has always been. MAN . AI is not the one who got the all inclusive world peace and unity engine cranked. MAN DID . BUT men WILL USE AI to usher in some of the ideals , WHEN really it was man behind the scenes doing the work THROUGH the AI. aint that something .
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2018 10:17:01 GMT -5
We are beset by Babylon 365/24/7. Who can withstand this? The fact that we know the difference sometimes makes the agony almost unbearable. The constant war within the flesh like Saul (Paul) mentions is no small thing. Perhaps if we 'think' we have made it we are in even greater danger! "Oh wretched man that I am" says the Apostle. I can identify with that. Any of our 'good works' are as "filthy rags" says the Lord. I recall Colin Urquhart talking about a ministers' meeting he was involved in.. it started slowly and then on day two everyone was on their knees sobbing about their sins. I recall Smith Wigglesworth's vestry meetings.. more often than not all present except him ended on the floor and were driven out the door by the Holy presence. He recounted once when he was on a train journey, he was praying as usual and then there was a commotion and the passengers came to him crying out that they "were convinced of sin". I believe I have only once experienced something a little like this. Totally awe inspiring - QUIET POWER, IRREDUCIBLE HOLINESS. I think for our benefit the Lord withholds His Presence often because it can be a consuming force in our frail persons. I do often cringe when I am in an assembly where folk blithely sing, 'Come Holy Spirit, Come..' It worries me that if He did come as requested, we would all be flattened on our faces for a very long time... Beware the Goodness and Severity of our Lord High God. Amen brother, that makes me smile...and exult in the Lord. Thinking of Moses wanting to see the glory of the Lord and could only survive it by being hid in the cleft of the Rock, and even then further shielded by only seeing the back of God. And why when we see Jesus AS HE IS, we shall be like Him....because it will utterly slay what's left of "us"! Nevertheless, the Spirit and the Bride do say COME...because indeed that's our heart's desire isn't it!
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