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Post by watchful on Mar 12, 2022 6:52:56 GMT -5
I luv >this one that that keeps coming>> Post by watchful on Mar 9, 2022 at 2:41pm It seems there is repentance unto salvation, as well as there is repentance from specific sins?  this Q bizzaro thinking on this forum if you pick up their thinking! You have to think of what they are saying and what the bible says!! This is BAD! What I was trying to say is that the repentance that is turning to God is what is necessary for salvation, repentance from going our own way and being away from God in general.......not necessarily repentance from specific sins, though usually repentance from some specific sins is granted at the time.....without even having to be told. Eg, not too many new believers go out and rob a bank after being saved, or commit murder, or run home and beat up their wife, if that's what they were doing beforehand. There are sins that we don't even know we have or do....there is more sanctification that comes after we are saved. That is WHY we still need to be instructed and built up in the word of God and Jesus (and His Spirit) after receiving Him (unless the person is going straight to heaven after believing, like the thief.) |
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Post by watchful on Mar 12, 2022 7:16:21 GMT -5
That Bad> Very Bad!~ Q> Salvation is a very easy Q> Jesus on the Cross and one turned to him and said I believe in you Jesus and what did Jesus say to Him??? You will be with me in PARADISE! Salvation is very simple!>It is man {satan} that makes the sword of GodJesus Hard to understand! Enjoy Something else to take note of, if I may mention....that repentance was a gift granted to the thief....he was given revelation of his sin, as well as revelation of Jesus. Without anyone preaching a perfectly formulated sermon on how to be saved or pointing his sins out to him. But just by being in the presence of Jesus. The foolishness of God is greater than the wisdom of man, and He is so gracious. Like Jesus saying to Peter when he confessed Jesus as being the Son of God....blessed are you Simon Bar Jonah because man did not reveal this to you, but God revealed it to you. Seems there are many different ways that a person may come to Christ, so many different testimonies, we just can't nail it down to a formula.....and ALL of them miraculous, ie, by His Spirit, not of our own. For me, the lesson I glean with this is how we need to rely on His Spirit. |
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Post by watchful on Mar 12, 2022 7:26:47 GMT -5
This is the stink that is on this forum, bang your Head, foam at the mouth {Les} Take My yoke upon you and learn from Me; for I am gentle and humble in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. For My yoke is easy and My burden is light.” But Les yoke is not light because of bad theology .Well les if you want to fall on pencils and roll on broken glass to get to HEV> thats up to you!! But Good For Posting! very intro to see the minds on this forum. Why is His yoke easy and burden light....because it is not by self effort per se, but by His Spirit, just yielding to His Spirit, obeying Him. And if we have the yoke of His Spirit will He lead us into sin? Of course not. Walk in the Spirit and we will not fulfill the lusts of the flesh. Just in yielding to Him, obeying His leading, which often requires a denying of self. Not my will but Yours, Lord. |
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Post by watchful on Mar 12, 2022 12:11:30 GMT -5
For clarification, this is what I particularly had a quibble about with the OP. I probably should have quoted it earlier:
<< It is impossible to place your faith in Jesus Christ as the Savior without first changing your mind about your sin and about who Jesus is and what He has done. >>
That's why I was saying I don't think anyone is able to know their sin and who Jesus is before the fact, since they only can know these things by faith, by the Spirit of Christ who has entered into their hearts.
Edit: This matters so that we will have grace for those who are lost.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2022 13:09:33 GMT -5
Why would someone need Jesus as their saviour if they don't understand what they are being saved from? What I am trying to get too in all this, i believe, is that I understand that it is by Grace through faith that I am saved, not by works also “If you confess with your mouth, ‘Jesus is Lord,’ and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved” (Romans 10:9) - In this passage 1 Corinthians 6:9-10 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God. The question is, if I simply believe that Jesus died on the cross, am I exempted from the consequence of these two verses. Another words, can I continue in sin, live each day living the above and enter the kingdom of Heaven simply because I believe in Jesus or it this the consequence only to those who never said yes to Jesus?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2022 17:02:05 GMT -5
sanctification. Expand your thoughts please?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2022 17:09:26 GMT -5
can I continue in sin,>> This is very intro on this forum!>> yes les you continue to sin!> because the bible tells me so but some on this forum believe not~!~! the bible says Man has fallen and thats why the blood of the Lamb was a must! To wipe away all sins once you believe! ALL ever more! or the blood was in vain, that some think on this forum but. but but !!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2022 17:14:56 GMT -5
Its very intro on this forum its mans thinking comes into play about salvation and t runns deep on this forum. I was told by John I am a heratic heretic
[ˈherəˌtik]
NOUN
a person believing in or practicing religious heresy.
synonyms:
dissident · dissenter · nonconformist · unorthodox thinker · heterodox thinker · apostate · freethinker · iconoclast · schismatic · renegade · disruptor · [more]
a person holding an opinion at odds with what is generally accepted. bUT THAT WAS to his theology , that I say hes >very>very Wrong! and most like john believe in this way I take it! And I say this belief is wrong because it keeps you in a form of BONDAGE! Enjoy
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2022 17:31:16 GMT -5
This is just mind blowing to me people can thread like this>Walk in the Spirit and we will not fulfill the lusts of the flesh. Just in yielding to Him, obeying His leading, which often requires a denying of self. Not my will but Yours, Lord. This is just garbage and impossible! Jesus went on immediately, however, to point out their hypocrisy and commanded the people, “But do not ye after their works: for they say, and do not” (v. 3). He then cited the hypocrisy of the Pharisees. They lay heavy burdens upon the people but would not do anything to make the load lighter. Their own works were done to be observed by men rather than God. They made broad their phylacteries
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2022 17:38:18 GMT -5
Why was I called A H >MMM<> Because I believe >Call on Jesus and Believe in Him And I will be saved!!> Thats It! Salvation is mine. Enjoy
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2022 17:42:11 GMT -5
Forever!>>But some say>NONONONONONO~!~! that H! Enjoy
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Post by watchful on Mar 13, 2022 10:59:12 GMT -5
This is just mind blowing to me people can thread like this>Walk in the Spirit and we will not fulfill the lusts of the flesh. Just in yielding to Him, obeying His leading, which often requires a denying of self. Not my will but Yours, Lord. This is just garbage and impossible! Jesus went on immediately, however, to point out their hypocrisy and commanded the people, “But do not ye after their works: for they say, and do not” (v. 3). He then cited the hypocrisy of the Pharisees. They lay heavy burdens upon the people but would not do anything to make the load lighter. Their own works were done to be observed by men rather than God. They made broad their phylacteries ?? Hmmmm, that is God's word, not my own thoughts. I think you need to explain your thoughts, since you never address the scriptures that are being pointed out to you. For all I or anybody knows, you may not know the bible very well and don't recognize when it is being mentioned without chapter and verse. So how about you telling us how you understand what these passages mean below:
Gal 5:16
This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh.
Gal 5:25
If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit.
Rom 8:1
There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
Rom 8:4
That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
Rom 6:1-4
What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound?
God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein?
Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death?
Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.
And please explain why God would ask of us what is impossible for us to do? Feel free to say otherwise, but it seems as though you might not be familiar with these scriptures either: Mat 10:38
Whoever does not take up their cross and follow me is not worthy of me.
Mat 16:24
Then Jesus said to his disciples, “Whoever wants to be my disciple must deny themselves and take up their cross and follow me.
Luk 14:27
And whoever does not carry their cross and follow me cannot be my disciple.
Jhn 12:26
Whoever serves me must follow me; and where I am, my servant also will be. My Father will honor the one who serves me.
Luk 22:41-43
And he was withdrawn from them about a stone's cast, and kneeled down, and prayed,
Saying, Father, if thou be willing, remove this cup from me: nevertheless not my will, but thine, be done.
And there appeared an angel unto him from heaven, strengthening him.
Mat 13:47
“Once again, the kingdom of heaven is like a net that was let down into the lake and caught all kinds of fish.
When it was full, the fishermen pulled it up on the shore. Then they sat down and collected the good fish in baskets, but threw the bad away.
This is how it will be at the end of the age. The angels will come and separate the wicked from the righteous
and throw them into the blazing furnace, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.
Matt 12:12-14
And he saith unto him, Friend, how camest thou in hither not having a wedding garment? And he was speechless.
Then said the king to the servants, Bind him hand and foot, and take him away, and cast him into outer darkness; there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.
For many are called, but few are chosen.
Phl 2:12
Wherefore, my beloved, as ye have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling.
After reading those scrips, are we ready to do that yet? Hope so! |
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Post by watchful on Mar 13, 2022 11:11:20 GMT -5
sanctification. Expand your thoughts please?
For when for the time ye ought to be teachers, ye have need that one teach you again which be the first principles of the oracles of God; and are become such as have need of milk, and not of strong meat.
For every one that useth milk is unskilful in the word of righteousness: for he is a babe.
But strong meat belongeth to them that are of full age, even those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil.
Heb 6:1-3
Therefore leaving the principles of the doctrine of Christ, let us go on unto perfection; not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works, and of faith toward God,
Of the doctrine of baptisms, and of laying on of hands, and of resurrection of the dead, and of eternal judgment.
And this will we do, if God permit.
That we are saved through faith by the blood of Jesus is the milk of the word...even repentance from dead works (sin) in general is part of that. But the word of righteousness, about living and walking in righteousness and holiness, starts to get into strong meat, and is for those who are growing and maturing. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2022 17:50:39 GMT -5
You can cherry pick all you want people!~~ thats a sign of bad theology then you have to pick the cherries! Enjoy
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2022 17:54:35 GMT -5
And its called Bondage that some seem to like on this forum, it seems to come in all false teaching! You can smell it a mile away like dead carp on the bank. Enjoy
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this Q bizzaro thinking on this forum if you pick up their thinking! You have to think of what they are saying and what the bible says!! This is BAD!