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Post by John on Aug 15, 2018 16:09:54 GMT -5
When this ministry began, we didn't have complete unity in every doctrinal position. What we had was people that love the Lord and who were being attacked and persecuted for not agreeing with a small group with an agenda. If you have 26 people, you will have 26 opinions. This is a non-denominational message board with a very basic statement of faith. If you disagree on something, discuss it in the forums respectfully. We don't need name calling, personal attacks, or underhanded efforts to pit one person against another. Stand up for your beliefs, but be respectful. All that are here are brothers and sisters in the Lord. They all are loved of God, and should feel welcomed.
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Post by Abby-Joy on Aug 15, 2018 17:13:25 GMT -5
Thank you for this, brother John. I agree.
PS... I wanted to see if I could get a photo in here.
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Post by tlsitd on Aug 15, 2018 18:46:13 GMT -5
Therefore, having put away falsehood, let each one of you speak the truth with his neighbor, for we are members one of another...Let all bitterness and wrath and anger and clamor and slander be put away from you, along with all malice. Be kind to one another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, as God in Christ forgave you. (Ephesians 4:25,31,32)
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Post by frienduff on Aug 15, 2018 22:43:46 GMT -5
Therefore, having put away falsehood, let each one of you speak the truth with his neighbor, for we are members one of another...Let all bitterness and wrath and anger and clamor and slander be put away from you, along with all malice. Be kind to one another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, as God in Christ forgave you. (Ephesians 4:25,31,32) That is right sister lights . onward in the LORD . we must contend more than ever for the true faith , we must exhort daily and even more so . I just watchted yet another depressing video . Wanna know why it was depressing . preacher was going on about the mark of the beast and how its all tied into a global system . TRUE . Here was the kicker . He said we can take a chip or like tech at least up till the mid point of triblatoin . SEE THE PROBLEM SISTER . Pretrib preachers , keep thinking we wont be here for the mark . NOW more have been selling this to the churches . THEY GONNA TAKE THE THING . We better get the mindset to LOSE all for JESUS and that we are going to suffer all out tribulation against us . Folks he is not the first pre trib preacher I heard say this . hal Lindsey has said , no its not the mark , that the SIX SIX SIX gets inserted into the chip later , AFTER WE GONE . and others tooo. YALL , they getting set up . THEY GETTING SET UP . NOW armour up and die for the LORD if need be . HE died for us and warned us WE would have tribulation IN THIS WORLD . folks gonna sell out left and right . JUST WATCH .
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Post by frienduff on Aug 15, 2018 22:47:19 GMT -5
But butero wont . He aint going to take no chip or like tattoe in GODS temple , which is our body . WE AINT EVEN OUR OWN our body IS GODS . The betrayal IS giving what IS GODS ONLY to the beast sytem . NO BODY do that . DONT DO IT . I warned many a tribber called pre, WE GOING TO SEE THIS , THIS thing is going to HAPPEN BEFORE JESUS RETURNS FOR THE CHURCH . fact. WE better not have a thing to do with that . As we get closer and closer , the ones who DO love the LORD and have believed still in pretrib ARE GOING to realize , OKAY we were off . BUT many wont , many who never did love the LORD , THEY GONNA TAKE IT .
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Post by ladypeartree on Aug 16, 2018 4:07:59 GMT -5
Ok so I have no opinions as to when God is going to call us home as far as I am concerned it is not my business to know that is HIS call. Sooooo apart from the fact that I really dislike all tattoos why would I want to have a machine implanted in my body to make life a slight bit easier for big businesses ( which is how it is being marketed ) I have 4 dogs and they all have microchips ( they are rescue dogs and came with them already in place and the law is moving fast here to make all dogs chipped ) I have a scanner as I used to foster rescue dogs and I can tell you those chips are TINY but boy do they move all over the place They are also known to cause cancer and have been known to cause fits in animals so why put that into your body ? I have heard lots of people say it is ok to have a chip as it is not a mark and even then you would have to " bow down and worship the beast or the statues of the beast " to be condemned hmmmm bit like saying it is ok to do " soft " drugs as they cant possibly lead you into any temptation or actual harm …. talk to those that treat drug addicts or have lost someone to harmless recreational drugs " We complain about living in a nanny state " where the government tell you what you can and cant do so why would you want something in your bodies that make it so easy for the government to track your every movement ? WHY would you want to do anything to extend your life on this earth when you would put your eternal soul in danger ? I will not leave this earth a day before God calls me home nor will I stay a moment longer than He choses so I don't see the point in even thinking about chips (unless they are the sort to eat ) If I need one in order to access the things of this world thanks but NO THANKS
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Post by John on Aug 16, 2018 5:29:07 GMT -5
There are disagreements over when the Lord will return, but there are other disagreements as well. That is to be expected. I am just saying that rather than get mad about it, if you believe you have the truth on your side, defend your position in a respectful manner. I have never understood why people get so angry when another person doesn't agree with them. I can see where this could create problems in a marriage, if the wife is not in unity with her husband since she is his help-meet, but within the church at large, make your case, and if you don't come to the same conclusions, agree to disagree and move on. Look at the war taking place at another message board over unconditional eternal security. Why? How about just acknowledging that this has divided the church for centuries, and just accept it, regardless of which side you are on. I am not saying it is not important, but it has nothing to do with your salvation. Doctrinal purity doesn't save you. If you reject the deity of Christ or are part of the movement that says there are many paths to God, that is another matter, as there is only one way we can be saved, faith in Jesus Christ.
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Post by tlsitd on Aug 16, 2018 5:56:04 GMT -5
Therefore, having put away falsehood, let each one of you speak the truth with his neighbor, for we are members one of another...Let all bitterness and wrath and anger and clamor and slander be put away from you, along with all malice. Be kind to one another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, as God in Christ forgave you. (Ephesians 4:25,31,32) That is right sister lights . onward in the LORD . we must contend more than ever for the true faith , we must exhort daily and even more so . I just watchted yet another depressing video . Wanna know why it was depressing . preacher was going on about the mark of the beast and how its all tied into a global system . TRUE . Here was the kicker . He said we can take a chip or like tech at least up till the mid point of triblatoin . SEE THE PROBLEM SISTER . Pretrib preachers , keep thinking we wont be here for the mark . NOW more have been selling this to the churches . THEY GONNA TAKE THE THING . We better get the mindset to LOSE all for JESUS and that we are going to suffer all out tribulation against us . Folks he is not the first pre trib preacher I heard say this . hal Lindsey has said , no its not the mark , that the SIX SIX SIX gets inserted into the chip later , AFTER WE GONE . and others tooo. YALL , they getting set up . THEY GETTING SET UP . NOW armour up and die for the LORD if need be . HE died for us and warned us WE would have tribulation IN THIS WORLD . folks gonna sell out left and right . JUST WATCH .
That's very unfortunate. But rest assured, brother, Jesus will defend His saints who love Him from deception and will strengthen their faith and give them all of the understanding that they need to be faithful to Him to the end, even if they don't know everything they need to know about the tribulation right now. It's the love of the Lord that will determine whether we stand or fall during that time. No true Christian is going to be deceived into taking the mark by the strong delusion that is going to deceive the unsaved; if they are truly born again, they will know exactly what it is and what the consequences of taking it are. Now, they may deceive THEMSELVES into taking it, like they deceive themselves about compromising obedience to God in other ways now, but they're not going to be deceived by the delusion. It will be an act of knowledgeable, willful rebellion on their part to take the mark and worship the image of the beast. So, knowing this, I exhort Christians to make their love for Jesus perfect as it should be, and to repent of any compromise in their lives now, so that they will be able to save their lives in Christ during that time of testing, with God's support. He gives strong support to those whose hearts are perfect toward Him (completely His), not to compromisers and rebels. Christians who are either of these things and who don't repent are doomed. They will do whatever they feel they have to do to stay alive on earth during that time (because their hearts are with themselves), and it will cost them their life in Christ. You can be sure that there will be a whole lot of angry, apostate Christians shaking their fists at God when Jesus doesn't come and take them away from the tribulation and they find themselves in the midst of it. Many believe in the pre-trib rapture lie because they are suffering-avoidant, self-loving, rebels, who aren't willing to suffer for Jesus' sake---not even the slightest inconvenience to their own personal comfort and pleasure and desires, when obedience to His word and His will requires it. They don't think they should have to suffer, so they try to make excuses for why they shouldn't have to; but the truth of it is that they're self-loving cowards. They don't even love the Lord here, as their disobedience to Him proves---much less would they rather depart from this world by martyrdom to be with Him, as Paul said he desired to do. They only want to depart this world to avoid suffering and to inherit pleasure, not because they love Jesus and want to be with Him. No one who willfully disobeys the Lord and makes excuses for doing so really loves Him; I don't care what they say or think (and neither does God). So if Christians like these claim that they really want to be with Jesus, they're fooling themselves. They just want to avoid suffering for His sake, as they've been avoiding it their whole miserable Christian life, and to have pleasure in heaven, as they've been having on earth, living for themselves here rather than for Jesus Christ. Those are the kinds of Christians who are going to be sifted out from among the Lord's faithful ones by the tribulation. God is going to purify His people, and only those who love Him will survive the furnace.
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Post by 2fw8212a on Aug 16, 2018 6:57:28 GMT -5
I have never understood why people get so angry when another person doesn't agree with them.
I believe it is a weakness of the flesh, and it needs practice and growth to overcome.
It really is hard when you are sure about something but others cannot understand you...
the reasons for others to disagree with you on scriptural truths can be that they are not ready to receive such truth, or their hearts are hardened and cannot see.
Because if truth is known in a deeper level, and someone isn't ready to receive it then it will create opportunity to evil spirits to attack the person...
and this can be very dangerous if the person is not ready to counter attack with the required truth and faith and end up deceived and lost.
That is how knowing too much can deceive someone into perdition.
"To everything there is a season, A time for every purpose under heaven..." - Ecclesiastes 3:1
"...A man can receive nothing unless it has been given to him from heaven." - John 3:27
And how truth at the wrong time or manner can be destructive.
"...Knowledge puffs up, but love edifies." - 1 Corinthians 8:1
"For in it the righteousness of God is revealed from faith to faith; as it is written, “The just shall live by faith.”" - Romans 1:17
"Nevertheless, to the degree that we have already attained, let us walk by the same rule, let us be of the same mind." - Philippians 3:16
God bless you all in Jesus' name!
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Post by frienduff on Aug 16, 2018 7:43:18 GMT -5
By the grace of our LORD we will keep on exhorting one another and more so as we see the day approaching . I am still tired from yesterday . Let us remember the true grace of God and all The LORD did for us and in mercy does . Let us put Christ first above all things , and let us be here for one another .
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