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Post by frienduff on Aug 27, 2018 10:11:23 GMT -5
Before I continue on , I want us to deeply ponder this .
MY SHEEP hear MY VOICE , you do not hear for you are not MY sheep . Let this sink in a bit before reading on . Ponder it , believe and receive this .
Now lets continue . MY SHEEP hear my voice and the voice of a stranger THEY will not , they flee the voice of strangers , they know not the voice of a stranger .
Let is sink in a bit . Marvel not , JESUS said to those , NO man can come to me , LEST the FATHER draw HIM . okay let this sink in a bit .
NO man can come to the FATHER lest by the SON . IF you loved GOD you would COME TO ME . let this sink in a bit .
Any man who loves GOD will come to me . IF a man loves me HE KEEPS my sayings . HE who hates me keeps not my sayings . Let this sink in a bit . AND , Ye shall know a tree BY its fruits . a hint , a good tree will always POINT TO THE TREE ,which is CHRIST and they will walk by the power of grace that teaches them to deny ungodlienss and wordly lusts and to be walking soberly righteously and godly in this world as they await the coming of our LORD . NOW , with all that said , WHO on earth would ever try and change the way we evangelize souls in order to win such souls . But seeker friendly sure did . IT went to those in willfull sin and asked them What would bring them to Church . DID JESUS ever once say , You do not hear , because you were mistreated by others , because they were too religious and spoke truth , because you did not feel welcome . NO , HE said YOU DO NOT HEAR because you are not my sheep as I have said , MY SHEEP hear my voice . But seeker friendly went to sinners and got advice from those who willfully had rejected truth , and used their methods to gain souls . BUT , how on earth did that work out . OH the churches blew up over night , they did get many souls , but rest assured in the years since then , I seen a great evil , the churches got only worse and no souls are getting saved . Cause they left off the way of CHRIST in order to enlarge their own churches . THIS was all an agenda which was part of THE AGENDA . And now THE agenda is showing its face more and more under this unity move and it will get only worse and those in it and the many who will come into it , will grow worse under a light which is NOT the LIGHT of CHRIST and under the shade of a tower , which man built , NOT GOD . OH we are in the gravest of times and dangerous deceptions grow and abound , BUT if the light that is in them be darkness WOE how great that darkness is , and if they are led into all hope under its shade , THEN how much worse when ITS HEAD does stand as a man and with kings rule one hour with this beast . And What do you suppose will happen to the ones who sold the truth , bought the lie , what happens to these ON THE DAY OF THE LORD . We must by grace , by our faith , RESIST this lie and buy only truth and sell her not . for many deceivers abound and get only worse .
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Post by frienduff on Aug 27, 2018 10:19:35 GMT -5
JESUS words destroy the words of the pope and many . The pope cries oh these other religions are coming to GOD too. BUT a reminder . JESUS said IF YOU LOVED GOD you would love me , you would come to ME . I DONT SEE THAT in the other religions , DO YOU ALL . so how on earth can they be coming to GOD their own way , without JESUS . the pope IS A LIAR , he is a deceiver and so are many others too . who preach this unity , who preach this all inclusive . ITS a LIE , leading all to THE LIE . The pope said who is he to judge , and that IF an atheist did good works , or as he told the kid , your father dropped you off at church right so he was doing good . And he left the kid with the answer that his daddy must be in heaven . WRONG again . The atheist in the popes example , HAD HEARD the name of JESUS and WILLFULLY REJECTED HIM and did not COME TO HIM . SO HOW On earth is he in heaven . FOR JESUS even said , Go and preach the gospel to all nations , he who believes is saved and he who believes not IS DAMNED . WHO knows more , JESUS or the pope , JESUS or men . THIS is the agenda of that inclusive move . to turn the hearts and minds of the children AWAY FROM JESUS and to make ready a people UNTO THE ANTI CHRIST . ITS all a lie . ANd we must have no part with it , no unity with it or those who partake of it .
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Post by 2fw8212a on Aug 27, 2018 10:25:15 GMT -5
Well, I believe to hear in this case is not simpling hearing like:
Oh, I can hear!
In this case it means to hear, to understand, and to obey. That is the hearing the Lord expects.
"Has the Lord as great delight in burnt offerings and sacrifices, As in obeying the voice of the Lord? Behold, to obey is better than sacrifice, And to heed than the fat of rams." - 1 Samuel 15:22
"But the ones that fell on the good ground are those who, having heard the word with a noble and good heart, keep it and bear fruit with patience." - Luke 8:15
"Here is the patience of the saints; here are those who keep the commandments of God and the faith of Jesus." - Revelation 14:12
Because many will hear, but they will not understand, consequently following and obeying another (satan, flesh, etc).
"For indeed the gospel was preached to us as well as to them; but the word which they heard did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in those who heard it." - Hebrews 4:2
"For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also." - James 2:26
"But be doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving yourselves." - James 1:22
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Post by frienduff on Aug 27, 2018 10:28:59 GMT -5
As john once came in the SPIRIT of Elijah and prepared the children to receive Christ SO too this false prophet does come in the spirit of what most think is of GOD , BUT ITS NOT LOOK at its works , LOOK AT IT . JUST LOOK AT what it is doing . Its not preparing the hearts and the minds to receive JESUS , no its making all seem as though their way is fine , so long as they do good works for untiy and so on . ITS not preparing the world FOR JESUS NOR HIS COMING . LOOK AT IT , LOOK AT IT , ITS the spirits of the false prophet who comes to prepare the childrens hearts and make the minds and hearts of the children ready FOR ANTI CHRIST . THIS SPIRIT is of the dark one . I PROMISE IT IS and if we have the eyes to see and ears to hear , WE WONT PARTAKE OF IT PEROID , we will expose it . Think about it , JOHN preached REPETANCE and got the folks ready to FOR CHRIST who was to come . THIS THING preaches ACCEPTANCE , NOT repentance , ACCEPTANCE and thus it makes the hearts ready NOT FOR JESUS , FOR ANTI CHRIST . CHRIST , the apostels all taught the folks that JESUS came to set us free. THIS SPRIIT comes to make people FEEL FREE while still in bondage . ITS A DELSUOIN . PAUL said we walk in liberty only use NOT liberty for an occasion to the flesh . THIS spirit says we walk in liberty , yet it honors the felsh , it honors gay marriage , it honors other religions , the only thing it hates and wont honor IS THE TRUTH , IS JESUS , IS the people of the lamb . SEE it for what it is , THE hour is getting late and a strong delusion builds . I cant warn and remind enough , these are the last final days . We about to witness the fulfillment of all things written . WE must be on guard ,WE must be diligent , we must beware lest many be led away with the error of the WICKED . ITS all coming to a head now , its all coming to the full . and a great end time battle leading to armegeddon , against all saints , IS RISING UP and will our persecution will soon begin in full, worldwide when once this delusion has filled the land , nations and churches full .
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Post by PG4Him on Aug 27, 2018 10:30:55 GMT -5
Two words: Peter Drucker.
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Post by frienduff on Aug 27, 2018 10:31:45 GMT -5
Well, I believe to hear in this case is not simpling hearing like:
Oh, I can hear!
In this case it means to hear, to understand, and to obey. That is the hearing the Lord expects.
"Has the Lord as great delight in burnt offerings and sacrifices, As in obeying the voice of the Lord? Behold, to obey is better than sacrifice, And to heed than the fat of rams." - 1 Samuel 15:22
"But the ones that fell on the good ground are those who, having heard the word with a noble and good heart, keep it and bear fruit with patience." - Luke 8:15
"Here is the patience of the saints; here are those who keep the commandments of God and the faith of Jesus." - Revelation 14:12
Because many will hear, but they will not understand, consequently following and obeying another (satan, flesh, etc).
"For indeed the gospel was preached to us as well as to them; but the word which they heard did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in those who heard it." - Hebrews 4:2
"For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also." - James 2:26
"But be doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving yourselves." - James 1:22EVERYONE read what letters just said , And see what JAMES said . BUT WHO SAID IT FIRST . JESUS DID . JESUS DID . right on letters . we must always exhort all to obey JESUS and be hearers and DOERS . JESUS DID , SO did the apostels . You loved letters . keep on with the good exhortations by the grace of GOD .
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Post by frienduff on Aug 27, 2018 10:33:08 GMT -5
Two words: Peter Drucker. Who is peter drucker . was he a big part of this inclusivism move or did he expose it .
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Post by 2fw8212a on Aug 27, 2018 10:39:48 GMT -5
...we must always exhort all to obey JESUS and be hearers and DOERS . Am I following the Lord Jesus, the real one?
"...by the mouth of two or three witnesses the matter shall be established." - Deuteronomy 19:15
"And we are His witnesses to these things, and so also is the Holy Spirit whom God has given to those who obey Him." - Acts 5:32
"...Indeed, let God be true but every man a liar." - Romans 3:4
"You will know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes from thornbushes or figs from thistles?" - Matthew 7:16
You hear what He said, good... But hearing is something even those who are in the world can do.
And who is the lord of the world?! Surely, it is not the real Jesus.
"But why do you call Me ‘Lord, Lord,’ and not do the things which I say?" - Luke 6:46
God bless you all in Jesus' name!
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Post by PG4Him on Aug 27, 2018 10:49:52 GMT -5
Two words: Peter Drucker. Who is peter drucker . was he a big part of this inclusivism move or did he expose it . Peter Drucker was the one who mentored Rick Warren. Look up “rick warren peter drucker” and you will see how Warren became famous.
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Post by PG4Him on Aug 27, 2018 15:39:30 GMT -5
If you fast-forward to 1:45:00 in this video, there’s a lot of shocking information about Drucker’s work behind the scenes to change the church.
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Post by frienduff on Aug 27, 2018 22:35:07 GMT -5
If you fast-forward to 1:45:00 in this video, there’s a lot of shocking information about Drucker’s work behind the scenes to change the church. SISTER this is the mindset behind the all inclusive unity . A WORLD COMMUNITY that serves the common GOOD . GOOD NIGHT they doing it on a global scale . THIS drucker fellow did the work of satan and it seems its inprinted all over now . THIS will lead to AN ANTI , NO THE ANTI CHRIST . its really satan at work in those men . The great deceiver . BUT ponder that too , THIS MINDSET drucker brought , ITS THE SAME MINDSET of not only rick warrrne and scores of others , ITS TEH WHOLE WORLD AGENDA NOW , being sold through religions and through secular . ITS satan at work to get everyone ready for the arrival of the beast Sister the churches are in dire straits , its all becoming about the good of the whole community , and individualism , GETS IN THE WAY of the colletive good . THUS any singular religion mindset , GETS IN THE WAY , it has to become a COLLECTIVE UNIVERSAL MINDSET and THUS it must be a collective universal religion ALSO . THIS IS THE WORK OF SATAN . . I MEAN its his work through men .
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Post by frienduff on Aug 27, 2018 22:38:18 GMT -5
And sister , we running out of time . SEE its why they have this unity move , lets cast aside our differences and just focus on what we have in common . MY , ITS ALL OVER THE PLACE NOW . individual absolute truth , WILL have no place in this world at all . AND GOD is absolute not many , AND JESUS IS the only way , not many other ways . WE are on a path leading to the total betrayal of true christains . Because in time what divides WILL NOT be accepted or tolerated , ONLY what unites us . AND JESUS does divide and cannot coexist with darkness . SISTER this is all over the world and gaining ground .
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Post by frienduff on Aug 27, 2018 22:43:09 GMT -5
By grace I knew rick warren destroyed true evangelism , but he was not alone . Its why also sister , and feel free to research this , ITS WHY they changed evangelism in many schools . ITS about the COLLECTIVE GOOD NOW
unity now , doning good works , feeding the poor ,working WITH muslims and other relgoins for the common GOOD . AND FOLKS are FLAT OUT BLIND to it . WATCH what we see in short time . Kenneth and tons of them , will push this unity more than ever . AND at the same time the blame game and scape goat WILL INCREASE TOO . I am warning us all, WE in the last days and our betrayal and betrayer and betrayers will rise as one to come against us when once this delusion has filled the people to the full .
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Post by 4hizglory37 on Nov 13, 2018 3:04:57 GMT -5
Before I continue on , I want us to deeply ponder this .
MY SHEEP hear MY VOICE , you do not hear for you are not MY sheep . Let this sink in a bit before reading on . Ponder it , believe and receive this .
Now lets continue . MY SHEEP hear my voice and the voice of a stranger THEY will not , they flee the voice of strangers , they know not the voice of a stranger .
Let is sink in a bit . Marvel not , JESUS said to those , NO man can come to me , LEST the FATHER draw HIM . okay let this sink in a bit .
NO man can come to the FATHER lest by the SON . IF you loved GOD you would COME TO ME . let this sink in a bit .
Any man who loves GOD will come to me . IF a man loves me HE KEEPS my sayings . HE who hates me keeps not my sayings . Let this sink in a bit . AND , Ye shall know a tree BY its fruits . a hint , a good tree will always POINT TO THE TREE ,which is CHRIST and they will walk by the power of grace that teaches them to deny ungodlienss and wordly lusts and to be walking soberly righteously and godly in this world as they await the coming of our LORD . NOW , with all that said , WHO on earth would ever try and change the way we evangelize souls in order to win such souls . But seeker friendly sure did . IT went to those in willfull sin and asked them What would bring them to Church . DID JESUS ever once say , You do not hear , because you were mistreated by others , because they were too religious and spoke truth , because you did not feel welcome . NO , HE said YOU DO NOT HEAR because you are not my sheep as I have said , MY SHEEP hear my voice . But seeker friendly went to sinners and got advice from those who willfully had rejected truth , and used their methods to gain souls . BUT , how on earth did that work out . OH the churches blew up over night , they did get many souls , but rest assured in the years since then , I seen a great evil , the churches got only worse and no souls are getting saved . Cause they left off the way of CHRIST in order to enlarge their own churches . THIS was all an agenda which was part of THE AGENDA . And now THE agenda is showing its face more and more under this unity move and it will get only worse and those in it and the many who will come into it , will grow worse under a light which is NOT the LIGHT of CHRIST and under the shade of a tower , which man built , NOT GOD . OH we are in the gravest of times and dangerous deceptions grow and abound , BUT if the light that is in them be darkness WOE how great that darkness is , and if they are led into all hope under its shade , THEN how much worse when ITS HEAD does stand as a man and with kings rule one hour with this beast . And What do you suppose will happen to the ones who sold the truth , bought the lie , what happens to these ON THE DAY OF THE LORD . We must by grace , by our faith , RESIST this lie and buy only truth and sell her not . for many deceivers abound and get only worse .
I have a question.....I had a pastor, he was one of those that had a very strong personality. Everything was done his way or the highway. He said that everything that God wanted to say was written in the Bible, that that was how God talks to us today. This pastor sat me down to tell me that it wasn't right for me to say that I had heard God's voice. One because the pastor said God doesn't do that because that which was perfect (meaning Jesus) had already come , and that it would make others who had not heard God speak to them feel bad. He also didn't believe in the power of prayer to heal. After he had his talk with me, he came down with cancer, I told him that I would pray for healing. He didn't believe in healing and he just wanted prayer to help him feel grateful. He died within a year. From what you are saying here, since he didn't , couldn't , or wouldn't hear the voice of God, was he still a sheep of Jesus???
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Post by 2fw8212a on Nov 13, 2018 5:35:31 GMT -5
From what you are saying here, since he didn't , couldn't , or wouldn't hear the voice of God, was he still a sheep of Jesus??? Only God knows with certainty who are His sheep and who are not.
Revelations do come to some people and they can know whether they are His sheep or not.
But revelations do not come when you want it, it comes when God sends it.He didn't believe in healing and he just wanted prayer to help him feel grateful. If this man believed his end could be very different.
"...If you can believe, all things are possible to him who believes." - Mark 9:23This pastor sat me down to tell me that it wasn't right for me to say that I had heard God's voice. God can speak to us in many ways. And by the fruits you will know if it is from God or not.
"But the natural man does not receive the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him; nor can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned." - 1 Corinthians 2:14He also didn't believe in the power of prayer to heal. When the Lord Himself said:
"...they will lay hands on the sick, and they will recover." - Mark 16:18Well, we lay hands but if the person does not believe it is hard for God to have mercy on them.
"...God resists the proud, But gives grace to the humble." - 1 Peter 5:5
Then, do not worry my friend. You have acted in the best of your knowledge.
Blessings!
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